Trains4U Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 White with panels, no ladders PGA012W(1) white no panels, no ladders PGA012W(2) white with ladders no panels PGA012W(3) all available now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BR Blue Posted November 7, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2019 As regards timing, when did the very large Redland lettering in the Trains4U exclusives appear? I am guessing late 80s early 90s. I also think the protection panels first appeared in the late 80s possibly around the time the last of the grey stripe ones were repainted? I have been looking at pictures trying to get a definitive answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
66738 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, BR Blue said: As regards timing, when did the very large Redland lettering in the Trains4U exclusives appear? I am guessing late 80s early 90s. I also think the protection panels first appeared in the late 80s possibly around the time the last of the grey stripe ones were repainted? I have been looking at pictures trying to get a definitive answer. There is a picture on Flickr showing 1986 built batch (Standard Railway Wagon Co contract 113) wagon REDA14791 on 04/08/86 with protection Pannels. REDA 14815 with grey band is a 1978 built wagon (contract 62) as is REDA 14807 with/without protection panels. REDA 14772 with large REDLAND logo is a 1979 built wagon (contract 65). And just to complete the picture, the first batch of Redlands from Cavalex was REDA 14764 a 1979 build (contract 65). If Cavalex decides to do a third run of Redlands, there is still 1980 batch (REDA 14775-14780) contract 71 and 1986 batch (REDA 14789-14799) contract 113 to have a crack at. All info comes from the excellent book ‘Standard Railway Wagon Co Heywood Works’ by David W Tandy. 66738 Edited November 7, 2019 by 66738 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BR Blue Posted November 7, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2019 Many thanks, that is a year earlier than I expected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share Posted November 11, 2019 A big thank you to Barrow Hill Junction for allowing us to run some PGAs on this superb layout. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trains4U Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 We now have “Matt Finish” weathered versions of each wagon available on our website. they will also be available at Warley. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share Posted November 13, 2019 Just under two weeks to go until the Warley MRC exhibition - come and visit us on stand B33 to see the latest batch of PGAs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richscylla Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I recently reviewed a couple of these on my YouTube channel. See what I thought here: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slg Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Didn't think I'd ever seen the Redland ones in use so decided not to bother, then started to scan all our old photos and guess what! If more are done may have to get some if funds are available. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trains4U Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 On 02/06/2020 at 00:14, slg said: Didn't think I'd ever seen the Redland ones in use so decided not to bother, then started to scan all our old photos and guess what! If more are done may have to get some if funds are available. We have stocks of Redland liveried wagons in five variations Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slg Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Trains4U said: We have stocks of Redland liveried wagons in five variations Funds are the big issue having just ordered Accurascale PTA/JUA Bogie Tippler Pack - British Steel Blue Outer + Inner Cavelex KBA Barrier wagon - Double pack + TEA Total Grey livery - Triple pack Revolution IWA Sfins2 holdall van twin pack x2 + IWA timber carrier (Rfnoos) twin pack x4 Will have to see what next paycheck gives me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trains4U Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 We aren’t running low just yet, there’s no immediate rush! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWT442 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Had a rake of 6 wagons arrive earlier in the week, went for one each or the weathered white ones with & without the patch. Stunning little wagon, very pleased with them! However I do have a query, apologies if it's been asked before, I have scanned through the thread but didn't come across anything. How come the 3 variations (end panels, no end panels & ladders) all have the same running number? I'd have thought that as each wagon was different, they would then have a different running number applied? Andy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trains4U Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) 59 minutes ago, SWT442 said: Had a rake of 6 wagons arrive earlier in the week, went for one each or the weathered white ones with & without the patch. Stunning little wagon, very pleased with them! However I do have a query, apologies if it's been asked before, I have scanned through the thread but didn't come across anything. How come the 3 variations (end panels, no end panels & ladders) all have the same running number? I'd have thought that as each wagon was different, they would then have a different running number applied? Andy. This was down to printing limitations at the time. there were minimum numbers for each print run. some of the variations would not (in my opinion) sell in sufficient quantities to justify its own print run, so we compromised and asked for build variations from each print run. it gives variety to the customer (if not in running number) Edited June 12, 2020 by Trains4U 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 We really love seeing photos of our projects on people’s layouts. We were sent these superb photos of John Beckett’s weathered PGAs. How good do they look! PGAs from our second production run are still available via our retailers. Thanks to all that have supported the PGA project. Regards Cav 12 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrallwelder Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 On 18/09/2016 at 16:29, Grimleygrid said: Thanks again to all those members that have kindly taken the time to post on our thread, it really is appreciated. Apologies Troublesome Trucks, as Cav has said at the moment we want to focus on the PGA but who knows, may be in the future. As previously mentioned, our plan, subject to a successful release of the PG012A, would be to release the ex-Tilbury Roadstone PGA as below; PGA REDA 14503 TJH01 Trowse 8th June 2001 Copyright Tim Horn by Tim Horn, on Flickr PGA REDA 14521 TJH01 Trowse Monday 9th April 2001 Copyright Tim Horn by Tim Horn, on Flickr This would allow modellers to mix these with the PG012A and also run as a rake in original Tilbury Roadstone livery: 47 285 westbound through Stratford. by Adrian Nicholls, on Flickr For those that model the Peak Forest area, these particular PGAs were used for a short period of time in 2002 on a flow from Dowlow to East Anglia. PGA_REDA_DSCF0274 by Paul Harrison, on Flickr The response to the Redland liver has got us thinking…… Any thoughts from Cavalex if they may produce this wagon ? All rakes seem to have at least 3 or 4 as part of the consist .. PG013G 14500 - 14522 Although a small batch / livery variations are Tilbury Roadstone > Red Redland > Green / grey stripe Redland > Green Redland > Faded Green blanked out LaFarge > white with titles LaFarge > white with titles blanked out LaFarge > white Additionally.. Also has anybody tried to convert a Cavalex PGA 012A into a Redland .. PGA 009B ? If so any pics please .. cheers TW 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBE Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Hi TW, whilst very much on our radar this version has certainly taken a back seat due to all of the other projects that we are currently working on, announced and otherwise. As you will appreciate there are only so many hours in the day. I would certainly never say never, though just not soon. Regards Cav Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trains4U Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Stocks of some of our PGAs are starting to get quite low, particularly the Redland versions. All Redland versions have ladders PGA012 OR (1) - Original Redland. Good stocks PGA012 LR (a) - Redland Large Logo with protection panels - SOLD OUT PGA012 LR (b) - Redland Large Logo without protection panels - LOW STOCK PGA012 R (2) - Redland with protection panels - LOW STOCK PGA012 R (3) - Redland without protection panels - VERY LOW STOCK PGA012 W (1) - White with protection panels, no ladders - Good Stocks PGA012 W (2) - White without protection panels, no ladders - Good Stocks PGA012 W (1) - White without protection panels, with ladders - SOLD OUT PGA012 P (1) - White with patch - with Protection panels, no ladders - Good Stocks PGA012 P (2) - White with patch - without Protection panels, no ladders - Good Stocks PGA012 P (3) - White with patch - with Protection panels and ladders - VERY LOW STOCK Let us know if you want any! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCML100 Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 Hi Guys - any chance of a re run of Lafarge branded ones with and without the ladder? 😃 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Model Railways Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 On 04/01/2023 at 14:17, WCML100 said: Hi Guys - any chance of a re run of Lafarge branded ones with and without the ladder? 😃 we have some (new) stock from the original run somewhere, send a DM if you're interested and I'll have a root through the boxes 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trains4U Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 We are looking to clear the remnant stock of our White and White with patch OO scale Cavalex PGAs These have been reduced by 20% to from £32.50 to £26 each, which is remarkable value for such a highly detailed wagon. Stocks are very limited, and there is no plan for another run in the foreseeable future, so be quick if you want to secure yours. Reduced price wagons are as follows:White: Image shows PGA012 W (3) PGA012 W (1) - White with protection panels, no ladders - http://www.trains4u.com/p/47600/Cavalex-Models-PGA012W(1)-OO-Gauge-PGA-Wagon-Plain-White-- PGA012 W (2) - White without protection panels, no ladders - http://www.trains4u.com/p/47601/Cavalex-Models-PGA012W(2)-OO-Gauge-PGA-Wagon-Plain-White---No PGA012 W (3) - White without protection panels, with ladders - http://www.trains4u.com/p/47608/Cavalex-Models-PGA012W(3)-OO-Gauge-PGA-Wagon-Plain-White-withWhite with patch: Image shows PGA012 P (3) PGA012 P (1) - White with patch - with Protection panels, no ladders - http://www.trains4u.com/p/47597/Cavalex-Models-PGA012P(1)-OO-Gauge-PGA-Wagon-White-with-Patch-- PGA012 P (2) - White with patch - without Protection panels, no ladders - http://www.trains4u.com/p/47598/Cavalex-Models-PGA012P(2)-OO-Gauge-PGA-Wagon-White-with-Patch-- PGA012 P (3) - White with patch - with Protection panels and ladders - http://www.trains4u.com/p/47599/Cavalex-Models-PGA012P(3)-OO-Gauge-PGA-Wagon-White-with-Patch-- 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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