jonny777 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 The only one not too. Mike. Did "The Royal Naval Reserve" have it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted October 10, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 10, 2016 If you're not getting tired of this, Mark, I realise I've got a couple more, part of a set taken at Westbury in August 1972. From the sequence of slide numbers these are very likely to have been taken before the one of 812 at Penzance on the 23rd. The big clue here is that on this day, 820 and 821 were both at Westbury in the early evening. For completeness, I'll include the whole lot, not just the Warship ones. AUG 72 17. A Class 52 approaches Fairwood Junction on the Westbury avoiding line, 1972 by Andy Kirkham, on Flickr AUG 72 19. A Class 33 at Fairwood Junction, August 1972 by Andy Kirkham, on Flickr SEP 72 01. 821 Greyhound enters Westbury with a train of oil tanks, August 1972 by Andy Kirkham, on Flickr SEP 72 02. A Hymek leaves Westbury with a parcels train, August 1972 by Andy Kirkham, on Flickr SEP 72 ?? A Hymek leaves Westbury, August 1972 by Andy Kirkham, on Flickr SEP 72 04. 820 Grenville at Westbury, August 1972 by Andy Kirkham, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted October 10, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 10, 2016 Did "The Royal Naval Reserve" have it? No it didn't, nor did D800. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 I have just had a look at the archive weather maps 1972 and with a large high pressure over the UK on 23rd August, the clear blue skies fit very well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark alden Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 If you're not getting tired of this, Mark, I realise I've got a couple more, part of a set taken at Westbury in August 1972. From the sequence of slide numbers these are very likely to have been taken before the one of 812 at Penzance on the 23rd. The big clue here is that on this day, 820 and 821 were both at Westbury in the early evening. For completeness, I'll include the whole lot, not just the Warship ones. AUG 72 17. A Class 52 approaches Fairwood Junction on the Westbury avoiding line, 1972 by Andy Kirkham, on Flickr AUG 72 19. A Class 33 at Fairwood Junction, August 1972 by Andy Kirkham, on Flickr SEP 72 01. 821 Greyhound enters Westbury with a train of oil tanks, August 1972 by Andy Kirkham, on Flickr SEP 72 02. A Hymek leaves Westbury with a parcels train, August 1972 by Andy Kirkham, on Flickr SEP 72 ?? A Hymek leaves Westbury, August 1972 by Andy Kirkham, on Flickr SEP 72 04. 820 Grenville at Westbury, August 1972 by Andy Kirkham, on Flickr With 820 I can give you dates between as it was working the Westbury to Gatwick & Merstham circuits for a few days so this could be one of the motorway construction trains... 02/08/72-09/08/72 / 16/08/72-21/08/72 On 09/08/72 821 worked a 14.25 freight from Exeter to Westbury which could be the picture of that train conveying tank empties from City Basin which went onwards later to Southall and stayed in the Westbury area until 17/08/72, that's the closest I can give you on these... and no Andy... never get tired of trying to identify Warship workings :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted October 11, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 11, 2016 Thanks again Mark. I ought to credit you for all this gen in my Flikr captions when I update them. Would you rather be credited under your actual name, or your phishplatephan pseudonym (or not at all if you'd rather not)? Would you have any ideas about D6330's likely activities on the day I caught it at Barnstaple in August 1970? I found it resting between duties when I was waiting to catch the 14:40 departure for Ilfracombe, and it was gone by the time I got back. The WTT shows a 16:40 Torrington-Exeter Freight & MIlk. Could it have gone to fetch that? SEP 70 01 D6330 at Barnstaple Junction, August 1970 by Andy Kirkham, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted October 11, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 11, 2016 No it didn't, nor did D800. D812. Sorry, that's still Despatch to me and would have had one! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark alden Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Thanks again Mark. I ought to credit you for all this gen in my Flikr captions when I update them. Would you rather be credited under your actual name, or your phishplatephan pseudonym (or not at all if you'd rather not)? Would you have any ideas about D6330's likely activities on the day I caught it at Barnstaple in August 1970? I found it resting between duties when I was waiting to catch the 14:40 departure for Ilfracombe, and it was gone by the time I got back. The WTT shows a 16:40 Torrington-Exeter Freight & MIlk. Could it have gone to fetch that? SEP 70 01 D6330 at Barnstaple Junction, August 1970 by Andy Kirkham, on Flickr The diagram that worked 7C67 is shown below. As you can see the loco was booked to arrive at 15.40 from Torrington,shunt, and then sit idle until 19.40 when it would work 7C67 to Riverside. The main duty of the day was 6C15 and it was quite a busy day for the loco.6330 was around and about at Exeter for a lot of July and August, I can tell you it was on the Hemyock milk on Saturday 1st August. Those trips could run at anytime,as soon as they were ready so its hard to say exactly what it was doing. The 16.40 Torrington was also part of the same diagram, the loco would be the A loco one day, the B next, back to A next etc and again you can see the loco had an idle period around the time you saw it. So the 7C67 could be ready for its next train (ie it's the A loco) or from the previous day and you saw it as the B loco. Regarding credits, I'm happy to share info Andy, you have provided excellent photographs and seeing them is my reward. If you want to mention me the my real name is fine, but i'm not overly fussed... just keep posting pictures mate :-) TARGET 6C15 'A' engine Arr. Dep. Notes. Exeter S.P. 02.30 LD Exeter St. Davids 02.35 03.00 6C15 Eggesford 03.50 03.57 Umberleigh 04.21 04.23 Barnstaple Junction 04.37 SHUNT Shunt as required. Barnstaple Junction 11.25 6C15 Torrington 11.59 12.19 6C15 Meeth 13.00 13.27 6C15 Marland 13.44 13.56 6C15 Torrington 14.25 SHUNT 15.06 6C15 Barnstaple Junction 15.40 SHUNT 19.40 7C67 Exeter Riverside Yard 20.55 21.00 LD Exeter S.P. 21.05 LOCO THEN WORKS 'B' ENGINE 'B' engine Arr. Dep. Notes. Exeter S.P. 04.40 LD Exeter St. Davids 04.45 04.53 8C01 Banking loco. Exmouth Junction 05.07 05.09 0C58 LD Exeter Riverside Yard 05.16 06.00 7C18 Lapford 06.40 SHUNT 06.56 Kings Nympton 07.32 SHUNT 07.53 Barnstaple Junction 08.22 08.45 6C20 Torrington 09.19 09.46 6C20 Meeth 10.27 10.54 6C20 Marland 11.11 11.23 6C20 Torrington 11.52 12.05 6C20 Barnstaple Junction 12.39 SHUNT Shunt as required. Barnstaple Junction 15.45 0C99 LD Torrington 16.15 16.40 6C24 Conveys freight and milk. Barnstaple Junction 17.22 17.30 6C24 Conveys freight and milk. Exeter Riverside Yard 18.35 18.50 6C24 Conveys milk. Exeter St. Davids 18.55 19.00 LD Exeter S.P. 19.05 Exeter S.P. COUPLE 19.50 In multiple with NA 95 / LD Exeter S.D. 19.55 20.10 2C76 N. Abbot 20.42 20.50 LD N. Abbot depot 20.55 Uncouple from NA 95. FUEL N. Abbot depot 21.55 LD N. Abbot 22.00 22.10 7C . . Exeter Riverside Yard 22.48 22.55 LD Exeter S.P. 23.00 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted October 23, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted October 23, 2016 For completeness I'll add my remaining Warship pictures, all taken at Westbury on (if the annotations on my slides are correct) the same day - May 11 1972. A remarkably fruitful outing considering it was probably only an afternoon trip in school term time. Thursdays were a half day in compensation for having classes on Saturday morning. MAY 72 03. 820 Grenville at Westbury, May 11 1972 by Andy Kirkham, on FlickrPerhaps 7B68 - the 14:50 from Westbury to Bristol West Depot. MAY 72 04. 820 Grenville leaves Westbury, May 11 1972 by Andy Kirkham, on Flickr Going away shot of the same train. I remember that on the return journey to Bristol as darkness was falling we passed a Warship at Avoncliff, which was perhaps 820 coming back to Westbury. MAY 72 ??. 821 Greyhound arrives at Westbury, May 11 1972 by Andy Kirkham, on Flickr 821 on a coal train. Evidently having recently worked 09:55 Paignton-Paddington. MAY 72 ?? 805 Benbow and 832 Onslaught at Westbury, May 11 1972 by Andy Kirkham, on Flickr Towards the end of the afternoon it got gloomier and rainier, but I was able to get an unprecedented (for me) two Warships in one shot. It came out underexposed, but Photoshop has made it tolerable. 7V16 seems not to feature in the working timetable, but it looks like coal empties from the Southern Region to South Wales. 6B23 was the 14:20 Exeter City Basin to Westbury, which should have arrived here at 17:37. MAY 72 ?? D7054 at Westbury, May 11 1972 by Andy Kirkham, on Flickr Plus one Hymek - by then a rarity in this livery. 4O22 was the 13:40 Parcels and ECS from Bristol Temple Meads to Salisbury. The working timetable notes that it was parcels only from Westbury to Salisbury, so I suppose the coaches will have been detached here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark alden Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 On the 9th 821 worked 1A59 and I have 820 returning on the 18.25 Bristol - Westbury. 7V16 was the 19.50 Fareham to Westbury stone empties although I suspect 832, and 821, might be on a Merehead stone trips or the Gatwick / Merstham jobs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 On the 9th 821 worked 1A59 and I have 820 returning on the 18.25 Bristol - Westbury. 7V16 was the 19.50 Fareham to Westbury stone empties although I suspect 832, and 821, might be on a Merehead stone trips or the Gatwick / Merstham jobs Fareham used, indeed, still uses, 'flat-bottom' minerals, and has no hopper discharge capability, so it's unlikely a train of hoppers would be coming from there. The photo of 'Greyhound' is another Merehead working, I suspect- the train contains some of the larger 24.5t hoppers that worked from there. When these wagons were first built, they were allocated to certain flows; a grand total of three were allocated to roadstone traffic from Foster Yeoman's original quarry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted November 11, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 11, 2016 Some wonder pictures here Andy. Going back to post 16, it looks like 825 Intrepid is missing a nameplate. I wasn't aware any ran in service like that. Live and learn... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted November 11, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 11, 2016 Some warships did - but did any westerns? Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Andy Kirkham Posted November 12, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 12, 2016 Some wonder pictures here Andy. Going back to post 16, it looks like 825 Intrepid is missing a nameplate. I wasn't aware any ran in service like that. Live and learn. 814 and 825 were withdrawn on New Year's Day 1972 and their plates were naturally removed. They were reinstated in March and ran without plates until final withdrawal in August. I'm not sure if any others were treated in the same way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted November 12, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 12, 2016 Some warships did - but did any westerns? Phil I haven't access to my notes, but a few did at various times. Of course, there's always the conundrum that as you can only see one side at a time, (unless on shed visits or the like). how did we know there was a plate on the other side? Mike. Edit. Schrodingers plate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubaimike Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 814 and 825 were withdrawn on New Year's Day 1972 and their plates were naturally removed. They were reinstated in March and ran without plates until final withdrawal in August. I'm not sure if any others were treated in the same way.Wasn't 829 another one?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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