Buhar Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Barry O said: Yes just scrape them off. Need to check the photos first.. Baz Yes, do Baz. You have a right hand drive example there, the standard LMS were left. The beaded splashers were dropped very quickly after the grouping and right hand drive was only found on the earlier LMS-built batches. Unless you do some work, you have a Midland built example and will need to see if the larger tender was attached to any of these at some point. Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted May 17, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 17, 2020 Job in hand and I can change the "hand of the drive as I have done it before. the other 4F has already been made into a RH drive one. Baz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted May 17, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 17, 2020 Been busy with Black 5s... The Model Loco ones are now numbered and the first stages of lining have been undertaken.. and then in one of my boxes I found.. A Ks Black 5 with Mainline tender. It needs new frames above the front bogie and also a front bogie... This runs very nicely. Baz 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted May 17, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 17, 2020 7 hours ago, Michael Edge said: Check your transfers, standard size should fit. Try the ones you used on the BR 3MT. renumbered.. Baz 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buhar Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 I have a photo of 44602 with that big tender at Bolton in 1962. Alan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted May 17, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 17, 2020 So do I.. I will set too with changing its drive tomorrow. It isn't hard once you have done one you find its simple. It is easier if you can do it as you built it but..this one was already built up. Makes it a bit more interest! baz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 65179 Posted May 18, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) Odd isn't it with the pipework right (I.e. correct), but the reversing rod on the wrong side? Simon Edited May 18, 2020 by 65179 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold innocentman Posted May 18, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 18, 2020 Seems to be a bit of interest on the Fowler High sided tender. Below is an extract from Model Railways, January 1974 with a table detailing known tender allocations to various Jubilees, Patriots and 4F's over the years Here we have a lined green version which is intended for 45539 Regards Andy 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 C Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Thanks @innocentman, that's really useful and the tender looks great. Would an etch be available for purchase please? Many thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold innocentman Posted May 18, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 18, 2020 1 minute ago, 5 C said: Thanks @innocentman, that's really useful and the tender looks great. Would an etch be available for purchase please? Many thanks. I'll PM you Regards Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted May 18, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 18, 2020 3 hours ago, 65179 said: Odd isn't it with the pipework right (I.e. correct), but the reversing rod on the wrong side? Simon And to make maters worse..the reversing mechanism was in the correct side of the cab. Reversing rod moved..job done Baz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted May 18, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 18, 2020 8 hours ago, Barry O said: And to make maters worse..the reversing mechanism was in the correct side of the cab. Reversing rod moved..job done Baz Sounds like that made matters easier not worse! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted May 19, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2020 Well it showed the loco was something of a hotch potch. The other 4F doesn't have reverser on it.. Baz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
92220 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Hi Baz, Hope you’re well. Sorry to pollute your thread but please can I ask some advice re LMR coaches? Should these have chalk panels and/or “Load x tons distributed” on them before I complete and weather them? If so, what weight and where? P I BG Dia 1715 P III Stanier shallow ventilator BCK Dia 1850 P II BT possibly Dia 1735 Thanks for any help you can give. Best wishes, Iain 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted May 19, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 19, 2020 Iaian BG No grey slate panels. 8 T evenly distI but Ed Pd III. . Yes across the last panel after the doors on the parcels end. Will check for the load. Can't find a BR photo of the BTaj but the LMS didn't paint any on. Will go off and check the weights... Baz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
92220 Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Thanks Baz. You are a star as usual. I did get the 8 ton loading right for the BG thankfully! Iain 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted May 22, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 22, 2020 Iaian no news on the loads.. there must be some information somewhere.. I will continue the search.. The 4F with High sided tender is done.. changing it to left hand drive took..about 1 minute A jubilee has been re-gearboxed It has one of the long chinese motors fitted. New pick ups fitted. Tomorrow will involve finding an inconsistent short.. and the next one is being a pain Nucast V2. Whitemetal chassis had failed so.. add a comet motor and gearbox... the chassis is made to fit the Bachmann body.. that must be a strange shape as lots still to do to get this to work! Baz 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted May 23, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 23, 2020 (edited) Left the V2 alone which meant.. Saskatchewan is now fixed.. new motor and gearbox are working well, It had a strange short.. eventually I spotted a strand of wire touching where it shouldn't be. Respectable, Jubilee like speed now achieved. Ks body and chassis with a Hornby Tender. So .. with everything going well attention to the pick ups and tender/loco connector on a Little Engines Midland 3F were undertaken. Then onto some rolling stock repairs, replacement coupling on a D&S CLC brake van Some more wagons to fit couplings to (mainly 21T and 24.5T mineral wagons).. Baz Edited October 31, 2023 by Barry O 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted May 24, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 24, 2020 been repairing some mineral wagons today Two very old Ian Kirk 21T minerals and two ex LNER 21T loco coal wagons all 4 together These needed the couplings fitting (not all completed) new wheels as required. Brake gear has been reattached and buffer replaced where required. And then Two Ian Kirk 24,5T minerals. The one on the right will also need renumbering. IT last saw use on Cwmafon. The other was bought second hand and has a coal load and dirty fingers" weathering. Droppers are to be fitted tomorrow, Other wagon repairs were also completed (mainly the fitting of new replacement buffers) Next up.... new loco kit builds and that V2> Baz 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted May 25, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Barry O said: Droppers are to be fitted tomorrow, Interesting. I always finish the couplings - loops, droppers and all - before fitting them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted May 25, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 25, 2020 6 hours ago, St Enodoc said: Interesting. I always finish the couplings - loops, droppers and all - before fitting them. Droppers can be added anytime. Thes couplings were "pre used" so I want to make sure the latch works first. I have fitted some magnets to the storage yard on Barnbow so I can try the couplings. New loops and droppers will be made up off wagon, then added. My soldering station iron has a great set of tips so, using the smallest one i can pre solder the loop before fitting then a quick touch with the irin et voila! Some of the droppers have fallen off since fitting..two were "low" magnetic types anyway (tried to retrieve them using a magnet!c Baz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Michael Edge Posted May 25, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 25, 2020 When you've soldered up anything on a coupler wash it with MEK or something similar afterwards, otherwise the pivots and latch can get sticky. I'm getting a bit suspicious of blackened latches as well, a lot of them seem to get sticky, clean brass ones less so. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted May 25, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 25, 2020 14 minutes ago, Michael Edge said: When you've soldered up anything on a coupler wash it with MEK or something similar afterwards, otherwise the pivots and latch can get sticky. I'm getting a bit suspicious of blackened latches as well, a lot of them seem to get sticky, clean brass ones less so. I blacken the whole brass fret as you know Mike. As you say, they need a through clean after assembly. I generally just use hot water, after which they work fine, but MEK sounds a good idea. I'll try that on the next batch. The usual reason I find for sticky latches is spreading the legs too much (ooer missus). As long as I don't squeeze the loops when fitting them they always pivot freely too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted June 1, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 1, 2020 On 19/05/2020 at 13:16, 92220 said: Hi Baz, Hope you’re well. Sorry to pollute your thread but please can I ask some advice re LMR coaches? Should these have chalk panels and/or “Load x tons distributed” on them before I complete and weather them? If so, what weight and where? P I BG Dia 1715 P III Stanier shallow ventilator BCK Dia 1850 P II BT possibly Dia 1735 Thanks for any help you can give. Best wishes, Iain Iaian I have looked through various colour photos..Looks like the Pd II BT didn't have loads on them ( being suburban stock are they expected to carry lots of goods in the Brake compartment?) Still working on the other coach.. When I find out the details I am going to log them all! Baz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted June 1, 2020 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted June 1, 2020 (edited) More wagons under way.. major repairs are being undertaken on these 16T minerals and another 24.5T mineral and.. one of the Black 5s has now had its boiler bands completed and.. my Bachmann Patriot has now got a name... Royal Tank Corps I m going to do a complete renumber on the cabsides.. Baz Edited October 31, 2023 by Barry O 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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