Baz's bodging and bashing .... back to ex LMS Coaches

[Buhar]

2 hours ago, Barry O said:

 

Yes just scrape them off. Need to check the photos first..

Baz

Yes, do Baz.  You have a right hand drive example there, the standard LMS were left.  The beaded splashers were dropped very quickly after the grouping and right hand drive was only found on the earlier LMS-built batches.  Unless you do some work, you have a Midland built example and will need to see if the larger tender was attached to any of these at some point. 

 

Alan

[Barry O]

Job in hand and I can change the "hand  of the drive as I have done it before. the other 4F has already been made into a RH drive one.

 

Baz

[Barry O]

Been busy with Black 5s...

 

The Model Loco ones are now numbered and the first stages of lining have been undertaken..

 

 

and then in one of my boxes I found..

 

 A Ks Black 5 with Mainline tender. It needs new frames above the front bogie and also a front bogie... This runs very nicely.

 

Baz

[Barry O]

7 hours ago, Michael Edge said:

Check your transfers, standard size should fit. Try the ones you used on the BR 3MT.

 

renumbered..

 

 

Baz

[Buhar]

I have a photo of 44602 with that big tender at Bolton in 1962.

 

Alan

[Barry O]

So do I.. I will set too with changing its drive tomorrow. It isn't hard once you have done one you find its simple. It is easier if you can do it as you built it but..this one was already built up. Makes it a bit more interest!

baz

[65179]

Odd isn't it with the pipework right (I.e. correct), but the reversing rod on the wrong side?

 

Simon

Edited May 18, 2020 by 65179

[innocentman]

Seems to be a bit of interest on the Fowler High sided tender.

 

Below is an extract from Model Railways, January 1974 with a table detailing known tender allocations to various Jubilees, Patriots and 4F's over the years

 

 

Here we have a lined green version which is intended for 45539

 

Regards

 

Andy

[5 C]

Thanks @innocentman, that's really useful and the tender looks great. Would an etch be available for purchase please?

 

Many thanks.

[innocentman]

1 minute ago, 5 C said:

Thanks @innocentman, that's really useful and the tender looks great. Would an etch be available for purchase please?

 

Many thanks.

I'll PM you

 

Regards

 

Andy

[Barry O]

3 hours ago, 65179 said:

Odd isn't it with the pipework right (I.e. correct), but the reversing rod on the wrong side?

 

Simon

And to make maters worse..the reversing mechanism was in the correct side of the cab. Reversing rod moved..job done

Baz

[St Enodoc]

8 hours ago, Barry O said:

And to make maters worse..the reversing mechanism was in the correct side of the cab. Reversing rod moved..job done

Baz

Sounds like that made matters easier not worse!

[Barry O]

Well it showed the loco was something of a hotch potch. The other 4F doesn't have reverser on it..

Baz

[92220]

Hi Baz,

Hope you’re well.

 

Sorry to pollute your thread but please can I ask some advice re LMR coaches?

 

Should these have chalk panels and/or “Load x tons distributed” on them before I complete and weather them?  If so, what weight and where? 

 

P I BG Dia 1715

 

 

P III Stanier shallow ventilator BCK Dia 1850

 

 

P II BT possibly Dia 1735

 

 

Thanks for any help you can give.

 

Best wishes,

 

Iain

[Barry O]

Iaian

 

BG

No grey slate panels. 8 T evenly distI but Ed

Pd III. . Yes across the last panel after the doors on the parcels end. Will check for the load.

 

Can't find a BR photo of the BTaj but the LMS didn't paint any on.

 

Will go off and check the weights...

 

Baz

[92220]

Thanks Baz.  You are a star as usual.

I did get the 8 ton loading right for the BG thankfully!

Iain

[Barry O]

Iaian

 

no news on the loads.. there must be some information somewhere.. I will continue the search..

 

The 4F with High sided tender is done.. changing it to left hand drive took..about 1 minute

 

 

 

A jubilee has been re-gearboxed  

 

It has one of the long chinese motors fitted. New pick ups fitted. Tomorrow will involve finding an inconsistent short..

 

and the next one is being a pain

 

 

Nucast V2. Whitemetal chassis had failed so.. add a comet motor and gearbox... the chassis is made to fit the Bachmann body.. that must be a strange shape as lots still to do to get this to work!

 

Baz

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Barry O]

Left the V2 alone which meant..

 

Saskatchewan is now fixed.. new motor and gearbox are working well, It had a strange short.. eventually I spotted a strand of wire touching where it shouldn't be. Respectable, Jubilee like speed now achieved.

 

Ks body  and chassis with a Hornby Tender.

 

So .. with everything going well attention to the pick ups and tender/loco connector on a Little Engines Midland 3F were undertaken.

 

 

Then onto some rolling stock repairs, replacement coupling on a D&S CLC brake van

 

 

Some more wagons to fit couplings to  (mainly 21T and 24.5T mineral wagons)..

 

Baz

 

 

Edited October 31, 2023 by Barry O

[Barry O]

been repairing some mineral wagons today

Two very old Ian Kirk 21T minerals 

 

 

and two ex LNER 21T loco coal wagons

 

all 4 together

 

 

These needed the couplings fitting (not all completed) new wheels as required. Brake gear has been reattached and buffer replaced where required.

 

And then 

 

 

Two Ian Kirk 24,5T minerals. The one  on the right will also need renumbering.  IT last saw use on Cwmafon.

 

The other was bought second hand and has a coal load and dirty fingers" weathering.

 

Droppers are to be fitted tomorrow,

 

Other wagon repairs were also completed (mainly the fitting of new replacement buffers) 

 

Next up.... new loco kit builds and that V2>

 

Baz

 

 

[St Enodoc]

3 hours ago, Barry O said:

Droppers are to be fitted tomorrow,

Interesting. I always finish the couplings - loops, droppers and all - before fitting them.

[Barry O]

6 hours ago, St Enodoc said:

Interesting. I always finish the couplings - loops, droppers and all - before fitting them.

Droppers can be added anytime. Thes couplings were "pre used" so I want to make sure the latch works first. I have fitted some magnets to the storage yard on Barnbow so I can try the couplings. New loops and droppers will be made up off wagon, then added. My soldering station iron has a great set of tips so, using the smallest one i can pre solder the loop before fitting then a quick touch with the irin et voila!

Some of the droppers have fallen off since fitting..two were "low" magnetic types anyway (tried to retrieve them using a magnet!c

Baz

[Michael Edge]

When you've soldered up anything on a coupler wash it with MEK or something similar afterwards, otherwise the pivots and latch can get sticky. I'm getting a bit suspicious of blackened latches as well, a lot of them seem to get sticky, clean brass ones less so.

[St Enodoc]

14 minutes ago, Michael Edge said:

When you've soldered up anything on a coupler wash it with MEK or something similar afterwards, otherwise the pivots and latch can get sticky. I'm getting a bit suspicious of blackened latches as well, a lot of them seem to get sticky, clean brass ones less so.

I blacken the whole brass fret as you know Mike. As you say, they need a through clean after assembly. I generally just use hot water, after which they work fine, but MEK sounds a good idea. I'll try that on the next batch. The usual reason I find for sticky latches is spreading the legs too much (ooer missus). As long as I don't squeeze the loops when fitting them they always pivot freely too.

[Barry O]

On 19/05/2020 at 13:16, 92220 said:

Hi Baz,

Hope you’re well.

 

Sorry to pollute your thread but please can I ask some advice re LMR coaches?

 

Should these have chalk panels and/or “Load x tons distributed” on them before I complete and weather them?  If so, what weight and where? 

 

P I BG Dia 1715

 

 

P III Stanier shallow ventilator BCK Dia 1850

 

 

P II BT possibly Dia 1735

 

 

Thanks for any help you can give.

 

Best wishes,

 

Iain

Iaian

 

I have looked through various colour photos..Looks like the Pd II BT didn't have loads on them ( being suburban stock are they expected to carry lots of goods in the Brake compartment?)

 

Still working on the other coach.. When I find out the details I am going to log them all!

 

Baz

[Barry O]

More wagons under way.. major repairs are being undertaken on these 

16T minerals

 

 

and another 24.5T mineral

 

 

and.. one of the Black 5s has now had its boiler bands completed

 

 

and.. my Bachmann Patriot has now got a name... Royal Tank Corps

 

 

I m going to do a complete renumber on the cabsides..

 

Baz

Edited October 31, 2023 by Barry O