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Plan for today is to sort out 3 roof sections. Has anyone else got a real problem matching Comet roof profiles to cast coach ends?

 

If these are completed, the interiors will be a doddle.. but two of the three coaches are to be finished in blood and custard livery - so a bit of warmth is required to get the custard in place.

 

After that... finishing the Chapel signals, a DeCrostied 9F and a J11... plus a bit of weathering...

 

Have a great 2019 everyone!

 

Baz

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Well managed to just about complete the 65' Period III coach.

 

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looks nice with it kitchen car (which has also seen some attention.

 

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Too cold for spraying the "custard" on the two other coaches. I may just build the interiors next.

 

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Probably a bit late! - but the Comet roof is a hybrid to suit several profiles. Therefore it only suits the Comet ends. Unfortunately 247 don't do the correct roof any more.

 

My current choice is the Dapol kit one. They can be cheap but does seem a big waste - & they refuse to answer emails requesting them as a spare part.

 

Looking good though!

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Very nice Baz!. I need a 50' kitchen car for my Caledonian - it will be the first Comet kit I have built. I think I will be ok up to forming the roof and attching to the sides. Any pifalls there?

 

No, it is a fairly simple kit. I build up the sides with handles etc then the underframes.

I bought a Kaufman clamp from Branchlines to get the sides/ends in the right place for soldering. I think the roof fits more easily with the Comet ends.

 

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Probably a bit late! - but the Comet roof is a hybrid to suit several profiles. Therefore it only suits the Comet ends. Unfortunately 247 don't do the correct roof any more.

My current choice is the Dapol kit one. They can be cheap but does seem a big waste - & they refuse to answer emails requesting them as a spare part.

Looking good though!

Ta. Yes the aluminium roof is a hybrid. There was a correct version but the  extruding tool for it was lost. These need a lot of settling but they can be made to fit.

 

Might do something else when I finish the period I and II coaches I am part way through.

 

Baz

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Cut a double in half. That way the missing single is guaranteed to turn up.

Not when they are "winged" seats... these are restaurant cars of the 1920/30s..pur opulence on the proper railway!

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Not when they are "winged" seats... these are restaurant cars of the 1920/30s..pur opulence on the proper railway!

Hmm, I still reckon it would work. Anyway, the proper chairs for sitting in whilst dining on a train are loose Pullman chairs. I had one in my office at Lovers Walk. Very comfortable.

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I have now fitted tables to the Period III 65' coach as well as no smoking decals in some of the windows. (Thanks to Andrew at Wizzard for the tables)

With other things going on it may be some time until I can complete the remaining coaches and one or two wagons.

 

So don'y hold your breath but watch this space...

 

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Finally getting there! Two Blood and Custard ex LMS coaches are nearly finished. They still need tables ( and a Period II Diag 1761 TO needs some seats.

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This is one of the early Period I Open Thirds used as part of a mainline catering set.  Need to complete the interior and then fit the Stones ventilators.

 

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How do you make your Stones Ventilators?

I'm in the middle of making an ex-LMS set for my Dudley Zoo Excursion trains and it includes three P1/P2 coaches fitted with these. I haven't decided yet on the best way to represent them considering that they are layout coaches, not museum glass case specimens or competition entries.

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I have some nickel silver etches courtesy of Nicktoix. Comet openings are slightly small so I adjust the etches to fit. You do notice the stones vents in pictures of coaches fitted with them

I used to use scribed acetate shaped to fit, then glued in...but the etches do look better.

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at last some progress on the blood and custard TOs.

 

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Stones ventilators fitted

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Tables also fitted

 

and the PII TO

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Oops spotted a wonky table or two

 

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and start has been made on a PD I ex LMS CK

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and the other side

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Despite being etched or me by Nicktoix I still have a bit of work to do to get them to fit. The Nickel Silver etc looks good though/

 

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Between gardening, travelling to umpire  cancelled cricket matches and life in general the CK is coming along...

 

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Final livery to apply (Carmine and Cream), interiors and roof details still yo be done.

 

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and the corridor side .

Note the body has not been raised on teh bogies as yet

 

Some time ago I bought a Southern Pride BR Mk1 BSK in Maroon to go with six other BR Mk1 s. Described as "Started" but well constructed (!) it has been a bit of a challenge.

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This too needs general etched details fitting and the roof needs painting.

 

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Apologies for the sun reflections...too bright today.

 

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Finally finished!

 

A period II D1716 Composite Corridor in Blood and Custard..

 

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note how different the corridor side of the coach is

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Took too long doing the interior...

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A few wagons being worked on currently.

 

Does anyone know what this is a representation of?

 

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And a rework of a very ole Ian Kirk open 

 

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and the other side

 

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12 minutes ago, Barry O said:

A few wagons being worked on currently.

 

Does anyone know what this is a representation of?

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At a guess, I think it may be modified to resemble to the Shock version of the Palvan (Palshocvan) as the upright angles have been cut short and the doors don't have the deep framing. Really the body would need shortening slightly to get close to accurate, though demounted and used as a grounded body you could probably get away with a much simpler conversion. Several pictures on Paul Bartlett's site (including one as a grounded body).

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8 hours ago, BernardTPM said:

 

At a guess, I think it may be modified to resemble to the Shock version of the Palvan (Palshocvan) as the upright angles have been cut short and the doors don't have the deep framing. Really the body would need shortening slightly to get close to accurate, though demounted and used as a grounded body you could probably get away with a much simpler conversion. Several pictures on Paul Bartlett's site (including one as a grounded body).

I agree with Bernard. The long strip on the solebar is the cover for the longitudinal springs.

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It is a quick conversion. It is not 100% accurate but will do as a layout wagon which is different to a normal Palvan.  I did change the ends but decided trying to cutilise a small slice out of both sides would cause lots of work si left the body as is apart from new ends, new door detail, new buffers etc.

How many Palvan Shock models have you seen on 00 layouts?

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The three ex LMS Blood and Custard Coaches (2 TOs and one CK) all ran well on Shap.

 

One of the freight trains needed an ex L&Y Van. I found a MAJ kit for one of these and have finished it (still needs weathering) and it too ran all weekend on Shap at Hartlepool Show.

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On 22/09/2019 at 21:24, Barry O said:

It is a quick conversion. It is not 100% accurate but will do as a layout wagon which is different to a normal Palvan.  I did change the ends but decided trying to cutilise a small slice out of both sides would cause lots of work si left the body as is apart from new ends, new door detail, new buffers etc.

How many Palvan Shock models have you seen on 00 layouts?

Baz

I got as far as doing the drawings.

 

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