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I finally managed to get ex-LSWR L12 No.427 finished today:

 

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Andy Sparkes completed most of the body build, which is sitting on a Hornby T9 chassis:

 

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What took me so long was to work out how to fit in a credible cab floor & interior - the loco has a wide body but because I model in OO, the gap between the driving wheels is really narrow; in the end I did the obvious thing and completed the destruction of the T9 donor by extracting the insides of the cab  and fitting them to the L12 - with the aid of some filler!

 

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I have made a mark in Andy's paintwork when fitting the external pipework but I expect to be able to deal with this when I weather the loco very shortly.

 

The prototype was not especially rare - there were 20 in the class, of what is really just a large-boilered T9 - but it seems pretty unlikely that a RTR model or even a kit will ever be forthcoming, so I am especially grateful to Arun Sharma who designed & 3D printed the body, before casting the boiler parts and etching the frames and cab. The tender is the standard Hornby product.

 

Tony

Tony,

 

Looking good. With white metal boiler and traction tyres, I look forward to seeing it haul a long train up your hill when I come to visit!

 

Andy

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Since nobody is the slightest bit curious or phased by the 'mystery loco' that I introduced a few days ago, I'll provide a further large clue:

 

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Amongst my rolling stock priorities for 2019 is the need to get a number of coaching rakes back into service; most of these have been 'stopped' for some time, because they have Kadee couplings which I have found to be unreliable, especially at changes of gradient:

 

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So here is the first of these, hauled by BoB No.21C156 'Croydon' Bulleid Set No.74 whose couplings were replaced today with wire loops:

 

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This is a West of England / Bournemouth / Weymouth set, built 1948 - so right at the limit of my modelling timeframe, and comprising Brake Composite No.6711 to d.2405 (above) and Brake 3rd No.4382 to d.2123 (below):

 

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I acquired this set, along with a similar 3 car set, some time ago and I think they are from Comet sides on Hornby underframes - but I am uncertain. The loco was new in 1947 and renumbered in its BR guise in May 1948 - so this must obviously be very early in 1948!

 

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I thought your (layout) world ended on 31st December 1947. Do I detect some ‘mission creep’?!

 

Its a fair cop guv!

I suppose I always say " '38 - '48 " which is fairly loose, but ultimately it may have to be a case for Rule 1. :dontknow:

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On 12/01/2019 at 09:26, Zomboid said:

I thought a black spam can had to be a merchant navy. But that nameplate doesn't fit with that.

 

I guess an early BR version? Never knew any were black.

 

Well you are absolutely right - I quite liked the black MN, and I wondered why there were no black BoB/ WC's - so far as I could see.

 

However, I had this hideous photographic gray & white spam can (it was a "limited / special edition" that I fell for some time ago - OK for collectors but not much good if you want to run it), see: https://hattonsimages.blob.core.windows.net/products/R2286-LN03_3367994_Qty1_1.jpg so I thought, rather than flog it, why not see what they would have looked like in black!

 

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So here is 21C164 'Fighter Command' - I quite like it but what do others think?

 

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It is easy to imagine that one or two might have had this livery for a while - after all they were 'mixed traffic' engines, and there was a war on!

 

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I plead Rule 1 and temporary insanity!

 

Tony

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Tony - Sadly too early for the Giesl oblong ejector I suppose. I gather this engine was photographed in grey after going back into the works and having the wider cab/altered cab windows done. 

Does that mean some of your lower numbered WC/BBs have narrow cabs with two windows?

In my evil youth I recall seeing "Fighter Command" at Waterloo - even to my untutored ear, I could recognise that it didn't sound the same as other unrebuilt BB.

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On 12/01/2019 at 18:09, Arun Sharma said:

Tony - Sadly too early for the Giesl oblong ejector I suppose. I gather this engine was photographed in grey after going back into the works and having the wider cab/altered cab windows done. 

Does that mean some of your lower numbered WC/BBs have narrow cabs with two windows?

In my evil youth I recall seeing "Fighter Command" at Waterloo - even to my untutored ear, I could recognise that it didn't sound the same as other unrebuilt BB.

 

Whilst the most recent Hornby WC / BoB tooling was pretty impressive at the time that it emerged, I think that they have actually only issued 2 in SR livery - Blackmore Vale and Fighter Pilot, so far as I know every other model is based upon these two tools (but I could be wrong!) - and in the same way, my renumbered WC's and BoB's are based on these two models alone.

 

 

 

You are right about that sound - here are a couple of my pics of City of Wells, now so fitted:

 

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Whilst the most recent Hornby WC / BoB tooling was pretty impressive at the time that it emerged, I think that they have actually only issued 2 in SR livery - Blackmore Vale and Fighter Pilot, so far as I know every other model is based upon these two tools (but I could be wrong!) - and in the same way, my renumbered WC's and BoB's are based on these two models alone.

 

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You are right about that sound - here are a couple of my pics of City of Wells, now so fitted:

 

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Tony

A great shame Wells is no longer mainline certified.she certainly earned the nickname Volcano. I had a couple of great troops over the Settle and Carlisle behind her.
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Returning to my priorities for 2019, I did not previously cover what I want to do in the areas of rolling stock & locos.

 

"Missing Locos"

In the short term, and having just completed the L12, I aim to also finish the long, drawn-out build of a Kirtley ex-SECR R class tank, before moving on to the Billinton ex-LB&SCR E5-X for which I have the 3D printed body plus a chassis kit in hand.

 

These were the top two shown on my "missing locos" list, but after that I will be very much dependent upon deliveries from various suppliers as to what comes next; although I now have 'solutions' for every item on the list, some will take a lot more effort to deliver than others. Here is the current position on the remaining 13:

 

Missing locos with the potential solution identified (13):

SECR Wainwright B1    (16) - a Jidenco kit exists but I can't find one (and it may not be that great!)
LB&SCR Billinton B4X   (12) - potential solution through a 3D printed body under exploration
LB&SCR Marsh C3        (8) - design & drawings now in hand for delivery of a 'kit of parts'

LSWR Drummond C14  (3) - although a CSP / Agenoria kit was announced years ago, delivery seems unlikely and so I have now identified an alternate supplier

LB&SCR Marsh D3X      (1) - potential solution through an intended 3D printed body, chassis still to be sourced
LB&SCR Billinton E4X    (4) - design & drawings now in hand for a 3D printed body to fit an RTR Bachmann E4 chassis
SECR Wainwright F1      (9) - solution = Jidenco kit held but builder not yet confirmed - way beyond me! - (likely to be difficult / lacking accuracy)
SR Maunsell I1X             (18) - potential solution through a 3D printed body under exploration + Alan Gibson milled chassis frames in hand
KESR 0-8-0T Hecate      (1) - supplier identified who will take this forward

LSWR Drummond S11   (10) - further set of L12 body parts in hand; sourcing correct wheels for adapted SE Finecast T9 chassis (think T9 with large boiler & smaller wheels)

Soton Dock Co. 0458      (1) - possible solution to modify CSP Agenoria kit CSP 04 identified & kit now obtained

DS75                               (1) - solution identified involving newly designed & drawn etches / castings

Fowler diesel shunter      (2)- supplier identified who will take this forward

 

With the best will in the world, it is unlikely that more than 2 or 3 of these will come to completion during 2019 - plus of course the two mentioned at the top - nevertheless, I shall maintain my efforts to complete the collection!

 

Beyond this, weathering continues to be a priority - so far I have just touched the tip of the iceberg!

 

Coaches & NPCS

 

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I mentioned in a recent post that a number of rakes of coaches & NPCS stock are 'out of service' due to continual problems with Kadee couplings, so an early priority is to work through all of these & replace them with simple wire loops as per the Tony Wright methodology. I have already completed  a further 3-coach Bulleid Set and intend to concentrate on this job over the next few weeks - next up is and exqusite 'Ironclad' rake (see above) and a Maunsell Ocean Liner train (below):

 

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After that, as with locos, weathering will be the priority, and I must also get around to disposing of some RTR 2nd generation EMU's that I bought just because I used to travel in them!

 

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The driving trailer from Set No.733 beautifully weathered by Mick Bonwick.

 

Wagon Fleet

 

There are a few kits in hand to build whenever the whim takes me - but otherwise, its weathering again - plus a bit more weeding out of older, poorly chosen RTR models which no longer fit.

 

All in all - and when combined with the scenic, control and electrical priorities -  there's plenty to keep me busy! :sungum:

 

Tony

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Returning to my priorities for 2019, I did not previously cover what I want to do in the areas of rolling stock & locos.

 

"Missing Locos"

In the short term, and having just completed the L12, I aim to also finish the long, drawn-out build of a Kirtley ex-SECR R class tank, before moving on to the Billinton ex-LB&SCR E5-X for which I have the 3D printed body plus a chassis kit in hand.

 

These were the top two shown on my "missing locos" list, but after that I will be very much dependent upon deliveries from various suppliers as to what comes next; although I now have 'solutions' for every item on the list, some will take a lot more effort to deliver than others. Here is the current position on the remaining 13:

 

Missing locos with the potential solution identified (13):

SECR Wainwright B1    (16) - a Jidenco kit exists but I can't find one (and it may not be that great!)

LB&SCR Billinton B4X   (12) - potential solution through a 3D printed body under exploration

LB&SCR Marsh C3        (8) - design & drawings now in hand for delivery of a 'kit of parts'

LSWR Drummond C14  (3) - although a CSP / Agenoria kit was announced years ago, delivery seems unlikely and so I have now identified an alternate supplier

LB&SCR Marsh D3X      (1) - potential solution through an intended 3D printed body, chassis still to be sourced

LB&SCR Billinton E4X    (4) - design & drawings now in hand for a 3D printed body to fit an RTR Bachmann E4 chassis

SECR Wainwright F1      (9) - solution = Jidenco kit held but builder not yet confirmed - way beyond me! - (likely to be difficult / lacking accuracy)

SR Maunsell I1X             (18) - potential solution through a 3D printed body under exploration + Alan Gibson milled chassis frames in hand

KESR 0-8-0T Hecate      (1) - supplier identified who will take this forward

LSWR Drummond S11   (10) - further set of L12 body parts in hand; sourcing correct wheels for adapted SE Finecast T9 chassis (think T9 with large boiler & smaller wheels)

Soton Dock Co. 0458      (1) - possible solution to modify CSP Agenoria kit CSP 04 identified & kit now obtained

DS75                               (1) - solution identified involving newly designed & drawn etches / castings

Fowler diesel shunter      (2)- supplier identified who will take this forward

 

With the best will in the world, it is unlikely that more than 2 or 3 of these will come to completion during 2019 - plus of course the two mentioned at the top - nevertheless, I shall maintain my efforts to complete the collection!

 

Beyond this, weathering continues to be a priority - so far I have just touched the tip of the iceberg!

 

 

Coaches & NPCS

 

attachicon.gifSJP_B9A604102171223.jpg

 

I mentioned in a recent post that a number of rakes of coaches & NPCS stock are 'out of service' due to continual problems with Kadee couplings, so an early priority is to work through all of these & replace them with simple wire loops as per the Tony Wright methodology. I have already completed  a further 3-coach Bulleid Set and intend to concentrate on this job over the next few weeks - next up is and exqusite 'Ironclad' rake (see above) and a Maunsell Ocean Liner train (below):

 

attachicon.gifSJPPA28000502181028.jpg

 

After that, as with locos, weathering will be the priority, and I must also get around to disposing of some RTR 2nd generation EMU's that I bought just because I used to travel in them!

 

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The driving trailer from Set No.733 beautifully weathered by Mick Bonwick.

 

 

Wagon Fleet

 

There are a few kits in hand to build whenever the whim takes me - but otherwise, its weathering again - plus a bit more weeding out of older, poorly chosen RTR models which no longer fit.

 

All in all - and when combined with the scenic, control and electrical priorities -  there's plenty to keep me busy! :sungum:

 

Tony

love that driving trailer
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Coaches & NPCS

 

 

I fear that this series of updates specifically will turn me green (greener?)

 

 

the Black Bulleid Pacific looks excellent, regardless of authenticity! The L12 looks fantastic too, although the resemblance to the T9 is hugely apparent - i'm sure to the untrained eye they would easily be mistaken.

 

A question though, it might be the photos, but it looks like the footplate slopes down quite dramatically at the front of the first splasher?

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I fear that this series of updates specifically will turn me green (greener?)

 

 

the Black Bulleid Pacific looks excellent, regardless of authenticity! The L12 looks fantastic too, although the resemblance to the T9 is hugely apparent - i'm sure to the untrained eye they would easily be mistaken.

 

A question though, it might be the photos, but it looks like the footplate slopes down quite dramatically at the front of the first splasher?

 

Jack

 

If I may say, you are already very malachite!

 

When I get a moment I'll get a pic together with a T9, K10, L11, L12 and maybe the D15, which should illustrate the progression of Drummond's 4-4-0 designs - as well as highlighting variations in the standard and quality of the models!

 

I don't think the L12 is bent, but I'll take a good look and apply the "correction mallet" as required.

 

Tony

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"Fighter Command" in SR Black?

 

Bloomin fantastic in my opinion!

Well done, Tony.

Bit late to the party, but absolutely this. SR Black is a tremendous paint scheme (my favourite British one), and suits fighter command well.

 

I tried to visualise the yellow stripes on it, and concluded that is probably best that that you didn't add them to the model...

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I spent a very enjoyable day with Mick Bonwick earlier in the week and managed to weather another four locos with a bit of his excellent guidance & help!

Here are the results - 1st a fairly dirty WD:

 

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The intention is that this will haul a continental freight train as I have a picture of a WD doing exactly that in about 1946:

 

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My usual camera has died and so I took these with the camera in my phone, and for once I can say that the real thing is better than the image!

 

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I also wanted to lightly weather a trio of spam cans - Battle of Britain locos to be precise - and for each of these to have subtly different levels of weathering; for the "group" pictures I have added a fourth, slightly grimier, loco:

 

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Yes, the differences are so subtle that you can't see them! So here is each loco in turn:

 

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First is no.21C162 '17 Squadron' which has had a shiny finish added and only the slightest weathering of the underframe and roof; next up is no.21C160 '25 Squadron' which has half as much shine added, plus a little more weathering:

 

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Third is no.21C158 'Sir Frederick Pile' which has no sheen added, and a light weathering on the sides, as well as rather more on the underframe and roof:

 

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(Hmm, the camera highlights my renumbering which looks a bit weak on that one!)

 

In the group pictures they are joined by no.21C168 'Kenley' which I gave rather heavier treatment a little ago - somehow I find that easier than being subtle!

 

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A big thank you to Mick for his continued guidance!

 

By complete contrast, T6 no.684 returned today from "extensive rebuilding" at the DLT works and now actually runs under its own power!

 

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Another big thank you to DLT - I had certainly written this loco off as a complete disaster, but will now add a crew and some weathering so that it can join the operational fleet.

 

Tony

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