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Tony, I thought it prudent to ask here, if only for the benefit of other thread readers, would you be able to snap a few pics of your Van and Parcel trains?

 

I appreciate that you probably have a few - the more the merrier! 

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Jack

 

I don't seem to have many 'stock' photos of vans or van trains, so I will take a few and post them later, but here is an old one to be going on with - No.903 Charterhouse on a Dover - Hither Green continental ferry vans train.

 

It pre-dates any weathering, and the loco is missing its front coupling, so I shall just sit back and wait for people to tell me the vans are not right for the period, etc!

 

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Aside from completing numerous van builds, building security fences and disposing of 'out of period' Land Rover models :rolleyes:, I have finally made a little progress on one of the jobs that was actually on my priority list for this year!

 

My intention was to get the ex-LB&SCR E5-X finished and to build the body for the E4-X to fit the Bachmann E4 chassis, as the Shapeways 3D prints for both of these, designed by Javier, had been in stock for quite some time. Indeed, I started the E5-X chassis build back in April, and the E4-X body arrived soon after.

 

Anyway, thinking that it would be the easier option, I started on the E4-X build today and managed a little progress; the body was designed by Javier to fit onto the Bachmann E4 chassis and I already had a donor available, however, I quickly found that there was an excess of printed material between the front driving wheels and under the boiler that prevented an easy fit; you can see this in the comparison between the printed E4-X body and a Bachmann E4 body below:

 

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In fact, in the shot above I had already removed a couple of horizontal struts and attacked the main 'lump' of material with my Dremel - but from here on in I had to take a bit more care!

 

The issue is that the Bachmann motor fits into the front part of the boiler and so a clear slot through the bottom of the boiler body is required:

 

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This was soon done, but I have pointed out the issue to Javier in case he wants to amend the print for the future.

 

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Once this was completed the body fitted perfectly onto three lugs that exist on the chassis - front, back and one under the cab floor:

 

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Javier has provided for the cab detail in a small separate print which is easily fitted into the body:

 

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There are a few small printed parts still to be fitted, smokebox door, Westinghouse pump, front splashers, cab roof and brake levers for the cab - some of which will have to wait until further detailing is done.

 

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Next I shall fit handrails, steam pipe, Markits sprung buffers & smoke box dart, plus I am just checking whether or not my target model should have side clack valves or not - I am certain to get it wrong!

 

In any event I am hoping that this build will be relatively speedy!

 

Tony

 

 

 

 

 

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On 05/07/2019 at 18:35, Tony Teague said:

so I shall just sit back and wait for people to tell me the vans are not right for the period, etc!

 

It's the only reason I asked!

 

13 hours ago, Tony Teague said:

I am just checking whether or not my target model should have side clack valves or not - I am certain to get it wrong!

 

:D A feeling we all probably know too well. Excited to see how it progresses though, the print looks good!

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A little further progress on the E4-X today:

 

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First I rolled a narrow strip of sheet lead and used it to fill the smokebox, before adding the smokebox door, darts, splashers, handrails and whistle:

 

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(Roof is just resting in place).

 

It all now sits very nicely on the Bachmann chassis, but before I can completely finish I am a bit stuck on two questions which I have posed in a separate thread:

 

 

All responses gratefully received, but this probably means that although I can add the last few bits, steampipe, westinghouse pump, buffers etc, - and perhaps spray an undercoat / primer - I can't completely finish the job until I resolve these points.

 

Frustrating! :dontknow:

 

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A little more progress with the E4-X:

 

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I removed the buffers before priming:

 

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It now looks pretty clear that the loco should have side clack valves; It will be finished as No.2466 which had them in the SR Maunsell olive period; I have drilled the holes, but will add them, along with the buffers, post next spray, coat which will be black.

 

Very soon I shall be able to cross another one off of the 'missing locos' list!

 

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3 hours ago, Tony Teague said:

A little more progress with the E4-X:

 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_2019_07/SJPP713000302190713.jpg.5c4e4278089fb382e47a36754f360980.jpg

 

I removed the buffers before priming:

 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_2019_07/SJPP713000502190713.jpg.09cb234b1c6fa28ef829d366d83fb992.jpg

 

It now looks pretty clear that the loco should have side clack valves; It will be finished as No.2466 which had them in the SR Maunsell olive period; I have drilled the holes, but will add them, along with the buffers, post next spray, coat which will be black.

 

Very soon I shall be able to cross another one off of the 'missing locos' list!

 

Tony

Tony,

 

That’s looking good. The 3D printing lines seem to have largely disappeared under the primer. And touches like the brass turned buffers really raise it up a notch.

 

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Thanks Andy

 

The 3D print is semi-transparent so a lot of what you see in the unpainted model is not represented on the surface; this is Shapeways latest and highest quality material and so I have not done, nor will do any surface preparation on it.

 

Once painted black (which it already is, but was too wet to pick up and photograph!) the surface looks pretty acceptable to me and weathering will only improve it further.

 

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5 minutes ago, Tony Teague said:

weathering will only improve it further.

 

True.

 

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At the top of this page, Jack P. asked that I post some pictures of van and parcels trains, and aside from not having any images to hand, my only other reservation is that the majority of this stock is as yet unweathered. :cry:

 

(It is on the enormously long roundtuit list!).

 

Most of my stock is arranged into fairly fixed rakes, and so here is the morning Up, inter-regional parcels train, having just passed through Stowe Magna - a motly collection:

 

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Dealing with each vehicle in turn:

 

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A Bachmann SR PMV leads, closely followed by a much older model, a GMR / Airfix GWR 50'Siphon GSJPP713002102190713.jpg.1471cfc7457b149d284a1575c862d9a1.jpg

 

This in turn is followed by a pair of LNER Gresley Pigeon vans, built by me from the excellent Chivers Finelines kit:

 

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They are weathered but the roofs need considerably more attention! Then come a pair of short SR, ex-LSWR vans which I think are from Mallard kits but built by Marc Models:

 

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and a much more recent Hornby SR Van C.

 

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An LNER extra long CCT which I built from the Parkside Dundas kit - with a shockingly white roof!

 

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and then a GWR Mink D, again from a Parkside Dundas kit (roof - ditto!)

 

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before two SR vans bring up the rear:

 

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A much altered Hornby SR bogie luggage van, and then finally, a Parkside Dundas SR CCT.

 

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A little later in the day there is a balancing Down parcels train, and this will follow in a subsequent post.

 

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2 hours ago, Tony Teague said:

At the top of this page, Jack P. asked that I post some pictures of van and parcels trains, and aside from not having any images to hand, my only other reservation is that the majority of this stock is as yet unweathered. https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/emoticons/default_cray.gif

 

(It is on the enormously long roundtuit list!).

 

Most of my stock is arranged into fairly fixed rakes, and so here is the morning Up, inter-regional parcels train, having just passed through Stowe Magna - a motly collection:

 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_2019_07/1356965516_SJP2019-07-1318-01-24(BRadius8Smoothing4)02190713.jpg.9127e1f0086f155f9ea04c259158a9c6.jpg

 

Dealing with each vehicle in turn:

 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_2019_07/SJPP713002002190713.jpg.c508aa60358de72682ff493ea5b2bb94.jpg

 

A Bachmann SR PMV leads, closely followed by a much older model, a GMR / Airfix GWR 50'Siphon Ghttps://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_2019_07/SJPP713002102190713.jpg.1471cfc7457b149d284a1575c862d9a1.jpg

 

This in turn is followed by a pair of LNER Gresley Pigeon vans, built by me from the excellent Chivers Finelines kit:

 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_2019_07/SJPP713002202190713.jpg.5b3c3403b4fdafb06327e242b420aa87.jpg

 

They are weathered but the roofs need considerably more attention! Then come a pair of short SR, ex-LSWR vans which I think are from Mallard kits but built by Marc Models:

 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_2019_07/SJPP713002302190713.jpg.c1d5ca5c462a02d9aaed03b312c716be.jpg

 

and a much more recent Hornby SR Van C.

 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_2019_07/SJPP713002402190713.jpg.bacd3d3d8cf30c65f51bdfc4ab045274.jpg

 

An LNER extra long CCT which I built from the Parkside Dundas kit - with a shockingly white roof!

 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_2019_07/SJPP713002502190713.jpg.f8849ca164567084eff156e27d031863.jpg

 

and then a GWR Mink D, again from a Parkside Dundas kit (roof - ditto!)

 

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before two SR vans bring up the rear:

 

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A much altered Hornby SR bogie luggage van, and then finally, a Parkside Dundas SR CCT.

 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_2019_07/SJPP713002802190713.jpg.ca1d270340b438ccc672ee51ef0c3ee3.jpg

 

A little later in the day there is a balancing Down parcels train, and this will follow in a subsequent post.

 

Tony

Very nice Tony. I do like parcels trains.

 

Did you use the Roxey kit to detail the SR bogie luggage van? I did one years ago and it made a very nice model.

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7 hours ago, St Enodoc said:

Very nice Tony. I do like parcels trains.

 

Did you use the Roxey kit to detail the SR bogie luggage van? I did one years ago and it made a very nice model.

 

Thanks, and yes, I did several of them in one go; some bits were a bit fiddly and there is still room for improvement but I agree, it makes a nice model and rather a lot better than the Hornby original!

 

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Hi Tony

 

Just read through the whole thread, really enjoyed it, wonderful modelling very inspiring, nice to see someone modelling parcels trains, a sometime neglected part of the railway scene.

 

Just one comment regarding the parcels train, shouldn't the VanC be further towards the rear as I think, and I'm no expert although a signalman in real life, there was a specified maximum number of vehicles allowed behind the brake in which the guard rode which I think was 2?

 

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1 hour ago, ianwales said:

Hi Tony

 

Just read through the whole thread, really enjoyed it, wonderful modelling very inspiring, nice to see someone modelling parcels trains, a sometime neglected part of the railway scene.

 

Just one comment regarding the parcels train, shouldn't the VanC be further towards the rear as I think, and I'm no expert although a signalman in real life, there was a specified maximum number of vehicles allowed behind the brake in which the guard rode which I think was 2?

 

Ian

 

Hi Ian

 

Thanks and glad you enjoyed the thread!

I think you are probably right - especially as there is no other brake vehicle in the train.

Consider it done!

 

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13 hours ago, Tony Teague said:

there is still room for improvement

 

I thought so too, So I sent some drawings off to Allen at Worsley Works, he's in the throes of putting together his usual kit (sides, ends and floor), I was considering building one out of plasticard, but I feared the weight of the roxey detailing kit would make it bow in the middle!

 

Thanks for the pics of the parcels, gives me some more inspiration for my own!

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52 minutes ago, Jack P said:

 

I thought so too, So I sent some drawings off to Allen at Worsley Works, he's in the throes of putting together his usual kit (sides, ends and floor), I was considering building one out of plasticard, but I feared the weight of the roxey detailing kit would make it bow in the middle!

 

Thanks for the pics of the parcels, gives me some more inspiration for my own!

 

The Hornby / Roxey combo is not bad but essentially it is not the right length!

As far as I remember - it is a while ago - there were two batches of the prototype, each of different length and the Hornby body doesn't match either!

Bottom line, however, is that as I have 9 of these each upgraded with a Roxey kit, I won't be looking to replace them any time soon!:negative:

 

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3 hours ago, Tony Teague said:

The Hornby / Roxey combo is not bad but essentially it is not the right length!

As far as I remember - it is a while ago - there were two batches of the prototype, each of different length and the Hornby body doesn't match either!

Bottom line, however, is that as I have 9 of these each upgraded with a Roxey kit, I won't be looking to replace them any time soon!https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/emoticons/default_negative.gif

 

Tony

 

You're quite right Tony. Without sounding snobbish, there were some compromises that I was unwilling to accept. The planking being raised panel lines, as opposed to recessed, and the length being the main ones. Both required more than a simple update to fix, so I thought it better to start with something more accurate. Having the roxey detailing kit already is a huge help as it means that I've got most of the required bits to go with the WW Shell.

 

I appreciate in your position, effectively binning 9 perfectly good vans, only to then fork out a substantial amount for kits.. etc, not the most cost effective idea!

 

 Any other 'fixed rake' photos you'd like to share would be well received i'm sure! ;)

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You don't sound snobbish Jack at all - we all make different compromises.

Now if someone brought out a new, accurate, RTR model I'd probably go for wholesale fleet replacement, but on the basis that life is too short and there are other things on my rather extensive roundtuit list, I just couldn't take on a batch of builds using what amounts to be 'scratch building aids' rather than kits!

Nevertheless I'll be keen to see what you come up with.

 

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Sticking with the van train theme, here is a further selection; first a couple that I quite like but which are attached to passenger rakes rather than within a complete van train:

 

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No.227 is a 44' ex-LSWR full brake built from a Roxey kit.

 

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No.328 is a 56' LSWR passenger van - panelled stock. I find these two particularly elegant looking!

 

Then there is the Down parcels rake that mirrors the Up service already seen; the current rake includes:

 

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A Hornby LMS 50' BG parcels van

 

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Another pair of those Hornby / Roxey bogie luggage vans

 

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A couple of sausage vans; the 50' GWR siphon G by Lima and the 6w LMS van by Hornby with replacement running gear by Marc Models

 

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These two 6w LMS express fish vans from Chivers kits have recently been added into the rake

 

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and bringing up the rear a further trio of SR vans - a CCT from a Parkside Dundas kit, yet another bogie luggage van and a guards Van B by Hornby.

 

Currently somewhere in the sidings awaiting attention is, amongst other things, a Hornby LNER Gresley full brake and a rather nice SR 53' bogie scenery / elephant van built for me from a CRT kit by Chris White - which I really must fit with some kind of couplings!

 

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I undertake to show these all again once they have been weathered!

 

Tony

 

 

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Well it has been 6 months and about 5 pages of postings since I last mentioned my "missing locos" list, but with the arrival of the E4-X on a test run from the loco works, it is time to re-visit the topic:

 

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I deliberated long and hard as to whether the loco should have side clacks, but after seeing two pictures of No.2466 in pre-war lined olive livery with these fitted, I finally took the plunge!

 

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Then there was the question as to what livery to adopt, and unsurprisingly, 24 hours after I had sprayed her black, evidence emerged that perhaps she should be in unlined olive but with sunshine lettering; nevertheless I decided that wartime black would be good, and so here she is, and below, posed alongside one of her slimmer, E4 cousins.

 

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So to summarise, No.2466 is the E6-X which comprises a Shapeways 3D printed body designed by JavierP, and this is sitting on a Bachmann E4 chassis; No.2473 is an RTR E4, made by OO Works.

 

All that is left to complete on the E4-X is to add a little more weight inside the side tanks, plus a rear coupling, and then to weather her.

 

So where does this leave the "missing locos" list? Here it is in some sense of likely delivery order:

 

LB&SCR Billinton E5X    (4) - build in hand - 3D printed body held and SEF E5 chassis part built - this will be next to be completed

Fowler 150hp shunter (DM400/600)      (2) - supplier identified who has made considerable progress so that this may be 2nd in line

SR Maunsell I1X             (18) - 3D printed body now in design + Alan Gibson milled chassis frames to hand

LB&SCR Marsh C3        (8) - design & drawings in hand for delivery of a 'kit of parts'

SECR Wainwright F1      (9) - solution = Jidenco kit in hand but need to find a builder - this kit is way beyond me!

LSWR Drummond S11   (10) - further set of L12 body parts in hand; sourcing correct wheels for adapted SE Finecast T9 chassis (think T9 with large boiler & smaller wheels)

LB&SCR Billinton B4X   (12) - potential solution through a 3D printed body under exploration

LB&SCR Marsh D3X      (1) - potential solution through an intended 3D printed body, chassis still to be sourced
LSWR Drummond C14  (3) - although a CSP / Agenoria kit was announced years ago, delivery seems unlikely and so I have identified an alternate supplier

KESR 0-8-0T Hecate      (1) - supplier identified who will take this forward
Soton Dock Co. 0458      (1) - possible solution to modify CSP Agenoria kit CSP 04 identified & kit now obtained

SECR Wainwright B1    (16) - a Jidenco kit exists and one recently sold on Flea-bay for about £300, but I wasn't the buyer - so I still have to find one or an alternative!

DS75                               (1) - solution identified involving newly designed & drawn etches / castings

 

So currently still 13 to go, but probably at least 2 of those, plus the E4-X will be delivered during the current year - slower than I would like, but progress none the less.

 

Tony 

 

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1 hour ago, Tony Teague said:

Well it has been 6 months and about 5 pages of postings since I last mentioned my "missing locos" list, but with the arrival of the E4-X on a test run from the loco works, it is time to re-visit the topic:

 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_2019_07/SJPP716000202190716.jpg.c5b07e9664c38cbc5bb37a0e84ba829e.jpg

 

I deliberated long and hard as to whether the loco should have side clacks, but after seeing two pictures of No.2466 in pre-war lined olive livery with these fitted, I finally took the plunge!

 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_2019_07/SJPP718000502190718.jpg.3cf9d52908a16c2f9f70018344e80604.jpg

 

Then there was the question as to what livery to adopt, and unsurprisingly, 24 hours after I had sprayed her black, evidence emerged that perhaps she should be in unlined olive but with sunshine lettering; nevertheless I decided that wartime black would be good, and so here she is, and below, posed alongside one of her slimmer, E4 cousins.

 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_2019_07/SJPP718000602190718.jpg.54315bf482fd641a3ffc20d45bc1bbab.jpg

 

So to summarise, No.2466 is the E6-X which comprises a Shapeways 3D printed body designed by JavierP, and this is sitting on a Bachmann E4 chassis; No.2473 is an RTR E4, made by OO Works.

 

All that is left to complete on the E4-X is to add a little more weight inside the side tanks, plus a rear coupling, and then to weather her.

 

So where does this leave the "missing locos" list? Here it is in some sense of likely delivery order:

 

LB&SCR Billinton E5X    (4) - build in hand - 3D printed body held and SEF E5 chassis part built - this will be next to be completed

Fowler 150hp shunter (DM400/600)      (2) - supplier identified who has made considerable progress so that this may be 2nd in line

SR Maunsell I1X             (18) - 3D printed body now in design + Alan Gibson milled chassis frames to hand

LB&SCR Marsh C3        (8) - design & drawings in hand for delivery of a 'kit of parts'

SECR Wainwright F1      (9) - solution = Jidenco kit in hand but need to find a builder - this kit is way beyond me!

LSWR Drummond S11   (10) - further set of L12 body parts in hand; sourcing correct wheels for adapted SE Finecast T9 chassis (think T9 with large boiler & smaller wheels)

LB&SCR Billinton B4X   (12) - potential solution through a 3D printed body under exploration

LB&SCR Marsh D3X      (1) - potential solution through an intended 3D printed body, chassis still to be sourced
LSWR Drummond C14  (3) - although a CSP / Agenoria kit was announced years ago, delivery seems unlikely and so I have identified an alternate supplier

KESR 0-8-0T Hecate      (1) - supplier identified who will take this forward
Soton Dock Co. 0458      (1) - possible solution to modify CSP Agenoria kit CSP 04 identified & kit now obtained

SECR Wainwright B1    (16) - a Jidenco kit exists and one recently sold on Flea-bay for about £300, but I wasn't the buyer - so I still have to find one or an alternative!

DS75                               (1) - solution identified involving newly designed & drawn etches / castings

 

So currently still 13 to go, but probably at least 2 of those, plus the E4-X will be delivered during the current year - slower than I would like, but progress none the less.

 

Tony 

 

Sorry to have to say this, Tony, but the 3D printing "striations" do show up too clearly in those photos.

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1 hour ago, St Enodoc said:

Sorry to have to say this, Tony, but the 3D printing "striations" do show up too clearly in those photos.

 

What material are you printing with Tony? FDM or SLA?

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10 hours ago, St Enodoc said:

Sorry to have to say this, Tony, but the 3D printing "striations" do show up too clearly in those photos.

 

8 hours ago, Jack P said:

 

What material are you printing with Tony? FDM or SLA?

 

This is Shapeways latest and current 'best' = "Smoothest Fine Detail" (the two grades below this now being "Smooth Fine Detail" and "White Natural Versatile", relative costs being (£137 / £86 / £50) - so until the technology moves along I suspect this is as good as it will be.

 

It is fair to say that the camera is cruel and that, with the naked eye, you will only see the lines upon closer examination, plus I believe that weathering will do a lot to tone things down, nevertheless I accept that the finish will not be acceptable to many.

 

For me, all modelling is a compromise, and currently this is perhaps the best way to secure a model of one of a class of only 4 prototypes; if you look carefully at the 12 year old OO Works RTR model standing next to it you will see that it's lamp irons are wrong or missing, it lacks any rivet detail, and only some of the handrails are present, but at the time, that was what you got for £160. That said it makes a reasonable 'layout loco'; the later Bachmann E4 is of course significantly better, and cheaper too.

 

I have yet to see another 4mm representation of an E4-X (or indeed an E5-X or E6-X) but if any exist, then I'd be keen to see what they look like and how they were achieved, because as of the moment I know of no other reasonably achievable solutions for at least half of my remaining 'missing locos'.

 

Tony

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10 hours ago, St Enodoc said:

Sorry to have to say this, Tony, but the 3D printing "striations" do show up too clearly in those photos.

 

If it was mine, I'd not bother about that one little bit. A photograph will always show up the slightest imperfections, but if I'm only going to view my models from a distance of three feet or more while they're running on my layout, and cannot therefore see these lines, then that's absolutely fine. If 3D printing is the only way I can get something that I can't do without then disadvantages such as these would be acceptable.

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32 minutes ago, Mick Bonwick said:

 

If it was mine, I'd not bother about that one little bit. A photograph will always show up the slightest imperfections, but if I'm only going to view my models from a distance of three feet or more while they're running on my layout, and cannot therefore see these lines, then that's absolutely fine. If 3D printing is the only way I can get something that I can't do without then disadvantages such as these would be acceptable.

 

Thanks Mick - that pretty much sums up where I am at.

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