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Returning to Chirminster locoshed, last mentioned in post #67, I have finally finished the re-cladding of the visible side & front end; it is back in position and the IRDOT detectors underneath it are working!

 

Adding detail to the side elevation:
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The building back in place:

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Some ballasting, scatter & water cranes added around the building:

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Locos return to their home:

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All roads show on the Panel as occupied (excuse the temporary paper top cover on the panel which will eventually be replaced):

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Locos on shed are as follows (it must be early in the morning or a Sunday as the shed is full!), from left to right:

Outside storage roads:

E4 No.2473 by OO Works & behind it S15 No.499 from a DJH kit

PD&SJR No.757 'Earl of Mount Edgcumbe' from a CSP Agenoria kit & behind it T9 No.120 by Hornby

 

Inside the shed:

H15 No.522 from a DJH kit & behind it WC no 21C120 'Seaton' by Hornby

B4 No.94 from an SEF kit & behind it K No.2341 from an Ace Products kit (builder unknown) & behind that D15 No.472 from a PDK kit

H No.1016 by OO Works & behind it, visiting LMS locos, compound No.1189 & Patriot No.5541 'Duke of Sutherland' both by Bachman

O2 No.207 by Kernow / DJ Models & behind it Radial No.3125 by Hornby, behind that R1 No.1710 from a Q Kits kit, and B4 No.82 from an SEF kit.

 

All of the kit built locos are by Chris Phillips except No.2341 which was bought on E-Bay.

 

Before & After:

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Overall, I feel that it has been worth the effort & the locoshed now fits better with the station across the yard, however, there is still more scenic work to do, plus I still have to make a roof, and since it has never had one, this might be a bit more freelance!

 

I will also need to do something about the small side building / engineering shop which is untouched Metcalfe, and then there is the need for a goods shed...

 

Tony

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Wow, what a tasty selection of southern motive power!  :O

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Seems a long time since I last posted, but I have been busy bedding in the Churminster loco shed and dirtying up / weathering the loco yard.

 

As a relief from this I decided to make up a couple of kits to extend and add variety to my mixed, inter-regional parcels train, so these are Chivers LNER d.120 Pigeon Vans; my experience with Chivers kits is that they invariably go together exceedingly well, and these were no exception.

 

Having built them I decided that I needed to find a better way to paint them to an LNER teak finish, and so I found within RMWeb an excellent thread by Mike Trice (see http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/75178-reproducing-varnished-teak-improving-latest-Hornby-thompsons/ ); I then followed his method as closely as I was able.

 

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I am pretty pleased with the results as this is only the 2nd time I have attempted  teak.

 

The problem now, is that also within my inter-regional parcels train is a Hornby Gresley full brake which has not been weathered at all; I have to say that it now needs some serious attention!

 

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Tony

 

Edited to add Mike Trice reference.

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Hi Tony,

 

That's a superb teak finish, I must check out the Mike Trice method.

 

Cheers, Dave.

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Time for a further update although progress has been a little slower than I would like.

 

Churminster locoshed now has a roof, and the multiple chimneys for it are under construction; I will post a picture as soon as they are complete and have been installed.

 

Meanwhile I have been looking back at loco liveries; I deliberately chose the period that I am modelling because it gave me the choice of using pre-war Maunsell lined olive plus black for goods locos, wartime black with Bulleid sunshine lettering, and post-war malachite, however, I have recently realised that I have just 5 locos in Maunsell's earlier livery of goods black, lined in green.

 

This is a pair of Brighton tanks, E3 no.2167 on shed from an EB Models kit, and E6 No.2415 from and SE Finecast kit on a short train of cattle wagons.

 

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I really like this elegant livery but the record suggests that the green lining was abandoned in favour of plain black for goods locomotives by 1935 - 36 - but who's to deny that a few locomotives might have still been around in this livery as late as 1938???

 

Here is the unique ex-S, E & C R crane tank no.1302, and heavyweight class W tank no.1915 on another cattle wagon train, both from SE Finecast kits.

 

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I don't think I have ever seen an original colour picture of any loco in this livery; can anyone point me at one?

 

And finally, class Z no.954 from a DMR kit on that ubiquitous cattle train.

 

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All of the kits built & painted by Chris Phillips.

 

Tony

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About time for a further update!

 

The work around Churminster station and yard that has occupied me for rather too long is now almost complete; I say almost, because the shed still lacks chimneys and because there will always be details to be added:

 

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Over to the left, there is still work to do in the goods yard, but there is far more to be done behind the camera, where as you can see, the ballast currently runs out:

 

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Until now, I have been reluctant to start work on this section of the layout as there is so much to complete elsewhere, but I have found it frustrating to have such a large, bare area immediately in front of the Control Panel and so I have changed my mind and started work.

 

Zooming in a bit from the previous shot, I have been progressing the build of a large stone crushing plant to serve a nearby quarry; this is adapted a bit from a Walthers kit and needs to be heavily weathered, whilst the bridge beyond it is scratch built from foam board covered with Slaters brickwork.

 

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There is a lot of structural and scenic work to be completed around the bridge and beyond:

 

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Looking towards the bridge form the other side, you can see that I have started to form the shape of the embankments and these will shortly "get plastered":

 

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A drone shot shows the scene more clearly:

 

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There is so much still to do that at times I doubt my own sanity in starting it off! - but I will get there!!

 

Tony

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Meanwhile....in the back corner of the layout, close to where the 4-track mainline enters twin tunnels,my good friend Mike has been painstakingly constructing a downhill stream which flows through a series of small pools. It is his first attempt at using a static grass applicator and at creating an artificial water surface - and I think it looks great:

 

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He built the small bridge from plasticard coated with Das clay, and the stone wall from Das clay alone.

 

Tony

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Hi Jack

 

Nice to hear from you and thanks for asking.

The lack of updates does not mean that nothing has been happening - indeed far from it - it probably just means that I have been lazy about updates!

 

Since I last posted, the embankments south of Churminster have been plastered and undercoated, and then most recently the running lines have been ballasted back to join up with the existing ballast through Churminster Station.

 

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As you can see, there is a little more ballasting to be done in sidings around the Churminster South box and into the quarry area, whilst I have about another 8 feet of landform to develop beyond the overbridge, along the side of the running lines, down to the tunnel mouth. Track in this area will then also need ballasting. There is also a further small area to the right of the picture - across the tracks from the signal box - which will probably be the last to be developed as it is currently used as a handy work area!

 

Over on the four track section to the north of Stowe Magna, one side of the cutting (to the left of the picture) on the approach to the twin tunnels had never been finished and the two tracks immediately in front of the cutting wall were also unballasted; both jobs are now completed and my good fiend Mike is now able to progress his scenic work up to, and to connect with, the top of the cutting.

 

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In my update before last, I reported that work around Churminster shed & yard had been completed (excepting the shed chimneys); here is a further shot from a different angle - the chimneys remain outstanding!

 

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Most recently I have been working on the colour light signals to the main, 3rd-rail electrified lines around Stowe Magna, and so far I have got 4 of these connected, of which two are fully operational.

 

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Note that I intend to continue the 3rd rail through the platforms in the foreground of the picture.

 

The signals are by Absolute Aspects and I am delighted with them; they are operated via Heathcote Electronics infra-red detectors, MAS sequencers and IRDASC boards. Where the signals protect a junction or indicate a direction via a "feather" of in one case, a theatre indicator, the related circuits are relatively complex as they have to interlock with point motors and switches as well as track feeds, however, I am not going for fully automatic control as I feel this would take away 'playability' - so SPADS will still be possible if drivers are not paying attention!

 

Finally, a further / better picture of Mike Gascoigne's work on the hillside to the left of the cutting and tunnel mouths shown above:

 

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Will try not to leave it so long, as there are also updates on rolling stock and locos.

 

Tony

 

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Tony,

 

Thanks for hosting my visit to your masterpiece on Thursday . The scale of ambition is truly amazing. I love your scenic touches such as the bicycle and your barns are very convincing. I was very envious of your amount of storage - makes my 14 road fiddle yard look puny!

 

I had one thought about your problem of getting longer length trains up to the upper fiddle yard. Have you considered powerbase? I've not tried it, but the reviews look impressive. As I understand it, you would only need to fit it to the up slope in the fiddle yard entrance, and to the handful of locos that you wanted to pull longer trains up there.

 

Regards

 

Andy

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Andy

Thanks - it was a pleasure to host your visit here, although as usual the 'operator error' gremlin played its part! Also as usual, the following day I ran through an entire sequence without fault, but c'est a vie!

Powerbase has been suggested to me, but so far, the prospect of fitting so many locos with magnets has put me off; I think you may be right, that re-visiting this could be a worthwhile solution in achieving better usage of my top fiddle yard.

The top yard is also least mature of what I have and so there are a number of other teething troubles to be eliminated, but I shall get there.

Please feel free to pay a return visit in due course, and I shall make a point of coming down your way.

Best wishes

Tony

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I spent last weekend at Missenden Abbey on a most enjoyable weathering course under the excellent tutelage of Mick Bonwick; I had decided to enrol because of the sheer scale of what I need to do in this area, and also because of my previous total failure to master an air-brush! I have returned much the wiser and in due course I shall start to post some of the results; I can recommend both the Missenden Abbey Weekend and Mick Bonwick's weathering course without hesitation (no connection etc).

 

Following that, Giles Walburn of Elite baseboards paid a visit and helped by installing 10 more Heathcote automatic uncouplers - so I can now shunt Stowe Magna yard fairly effectively; I shall post some pictures and perhaps a video in due course.

 

I have also managed to make significant progress on signalling, which I mentioned two posts back - so here is an update:

 

I took delivery of my order for colour light signals from Absolute Aspects about a year ago, and although some of them had been mounted in position, none was wired up. I intend for the colour lights to cover the 'electrified / third rail' Up and Down Main lines through Stowe Magna plus the approaches to and from the main fiddle yards in either direction; semaphore signals will then be used to control the two double track lines that diverge at Stowe Magna, and through Churminster respectively.

 

All 9 colour light signals are now lit, and all six of those that control the main through routes are now fully operational, including feathers and a theatre indicator which are inter-connected with the signal levers that control the related points -  I have to say that I am really pleased with the results:

 

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SR Q1 class no. C8 heads north out of Stowe Magna with the Up Kent coal train

 

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Once it has cleared, the route is set for an Up EMU to pass it further up the line

 

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It is quite difficult to portray signals working in still shots and so I will work on some video sequences, but turning the camera through 180 degrees at the same viewpoint, just outside the Stowe Magna gasworks, one can see the Down line signal is set for a pull-push train to terminate in platform 1

 

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The following express will then passes on the through Down Main

 

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This will then be followed by a terminating EMU to platform 2

 

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Because the signals are operated in conjunction with the point mechanisms, and these in turn isolate certain areas of track ahead or behind them, there is a degree of electronic interlocking, but there is more to be done in this area.

 

There are also three starter signals - two from the terminating platforms and one from the converging double track line that joins at Stowe Magna junction, that are lit on red but not yet operational, plus two position lights and some ground signals that are yet to be wired, so still plenty to be done!

 

Tony

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Between Stowe Magna station and Stowe Magna shed, a small drainage ditch or stream emerges from underneath the railway and then flows alongside the entry road to the goods yard into a small dirty pond, before disappearing off the baseboard edge.

 

I have been working to finish this area and with some scenic help from friend Mike, plus some Aqua magic, the stream and pond are now looking pretty good, however, I have hit a small problem at the baseboard edge where I have failed to get a neat finish.

 

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I have explained the problem in a separate post and asked whether others have experience and / or a solution to this problem, as I have two other places on the layout where I want to use this approach.

 

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/127994-using-deluxe-materials-aqua-magic-at-baseboard-edge/

 

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All thoughts appreciated!

 

Tony

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Hi Tony, great looking dirty pond, perhaps a large diameter outfall drain pipe running along the edge would help to disguise it. All the best Adrian.

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Adrian

Thanks - its an idea - I see this pond as being rather contaminated by oil and coal etc, although it is not quite as black as the picture represents.

Tony

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Just found this layout, I'm in awe at the breadth and size of this project. Some stunning modelling. The little stream is superb. I will be following.

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Thanks Alan

After responding to your post on Tony Wright's thread I am just working through your own - right from the beginning, and it is certainly most impressive. I'll make further comment over there!

 

Tony

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Been some time since I last looked in so apologies for all the likes. The pictures of the four track section on post 84 has given me some ideas for a similar section we have problems with on our fixed spare room layout so thanks for posting.

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One major issue that I have yet to deal with is that almost none of my locos or stock is weathered - and I certainly intend to remedy this but it is a big job!

 

I mentioned a couple of posts back that I had attended an excellent weathering course at Missenden Abbey and since then I have acquired a new spray booth and set things up to start the weathering job so, at great risk of being told I should do it differently - or better!, here are a few of my first efforts!

 

I don't regard any as finished, all are "work in progress", some are air-brushed, some dry-brushed and some use a mixture of techniques including powders. Most require a bit more attention / rust, to the underframes.

 

I started with the local Private Owner stock:

 

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Tom Chinnery is the Stowe Magna Coal Merchant

 

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The Stowe Magna Gas Light & Coke Company operate the local gas works, which has a private siding just beyond the station.

 

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A local builder also makes use of the goods yard:

 

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I also attended to one or two wagons from further afield:

 

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Finally, one of those white Belgo-Anglais Ferry Van coal wagons that I first showed in post #47

 

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I'll add some further pictures as I make progress and get more practice!

 

Tony

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One major issue that I have yet to deal with is that almost none of my locos or stock is weathered - and I certainly intend to remedy this but it is a big job!

 

I mentioned a couple of posts back that I had attended an excellent weathering course at Missenden Abbey and since then I have acquired a new spray booth and set things up to start the weathering job so, at great risk of being told I should do it differently - or better!, here are a few of my first efforts!

 

I don't regard any as finished, all are "work in progress", some are air-brushed, some dry-brushed and some use a mixture of techniques including powders. Most require a bit more attention / rust, to the underframes.

 

I started with the local Private Owner stock:

 

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Tom Chinnery is the Stowe Magna Coal Merchant

 

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The Stowe Magna Gas Light & Coke Company operate the local gas works, which has a private siding just beyond the station.

 

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A local builder also makes use of the goods yard:

 

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I also attended to one or two wagons from further afield:

 

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Finally, one of those white Belgo-Anglais Ferry Van coal wagons that I first showed in post #47

 

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I'll add some further pictures as I make progress and get more practice!

 

Tony

Very nice Tony. I believe that Norfolk & Good have many branches nationwide.

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One major issue that I have yet to deal with is that almost none of my locos or stock is weathered - and I certainly intend to remedy this but it is a big job!

 

I mentioned a couple of posts back that I had attended an excellent weathering course at Missenden Abbey and since then I have acquired a new spray booth and set things up to start the weathering job so, at great risk of being told I should do it differently - or better!, here are a few of my first efforts!

 

I don't regard any as finished, all are "work in progress", some are air-brushed, some dry-brushed and some use a mixture of techniques including powders. Most require a bit more attention / rust, to the underframes.

 

I started with the local Private Owner stock:

 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/public/style_images/master/attachicon.gifSJPPC01006202171201.jpg

 

Tom Chinnery is the Stowe Magna Coal Merchant

 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/public/style_images/master/attachicon.gifSJPPC01005602171201.jpg

 

The Stowe Magna Gas Light & Coke Company operate the local gas works, which has a private siding just beyond the station.

 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/public/style_images/master/attachicon.gifSJPPC01006002171201.jpg

 

A local builder also makes use of the goods yard:

 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/public/style_images/master/attachicon.gifSJPPC01005902171201.jpg

 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/public/style_images/master/attachicon.gifSJPPC01006302171201.jpg

 

I also attended to one or two wagons from further afield:

 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/public/style_images/master/attachicon.gifSJPPC01005502171201.jpg

 

Finally, one of those white Belgo-Anglais Ferry Van coal wagons that I first showed in post #47

 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/public/style_images/master/attachicon.gifSJPPC01011302171201.jpg

 

I'll add some further pictures as I make progress and get more practice!

 

Tony

A good start to the art of weathering. It gets addictive.

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Very nice Tony. I believe that Norfolk & Good have many branches nationwide.

So I believe!

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Looks excellent Tony! it's all practice. Some of the best advice I ever got in regards to weathering was simply 'Work from photos - Paint what you see, not what you know'.

 

 

Can't wait to see your attempt at a loco :)

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Longer term followers of this thread may recall my preoccupation with adding to my fleet at least one of every class of loco that the Southern Railway owned at nationalisation; although I have seemingly exhausted all known kits and RTR classes I have not been idel in terms of securing the last few classes that remain.

 

A while ago I persuaded my good friend Arun Sharma to get involved in producing a 3D printed body for an LSWR Drummond L12 - which is a T9 variant, having a larger boiler but identical wheelsets to a T9.

 

Our aim was to produce a body that could directly replace the Hornby model, so that the loco would run on the Hornby chassis.

 

The first print looked good and proved that it could be done, but we quickly realised that the Hornby T9 boiler was metal and that without significant weight our loco would not be balanced - so we changed tack.

 

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Arun then used the 3D print to develop white metal castings for key components such as the firebox and smokebox, some brass castings for splashers etc, and nickel silver etches for the footplate and cabsides. Whilst this is a far more complex approach, it is also much more robust.

 

I have now commenced building the "Mk.2" L12 and will post updates as the build progresses, but in the meantime I have also decided to look at whether the new body can be mounted on a SEF T9 chassis, so I shall be exploring this at the same time.

 

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Incidentally, if this all works, then the LSWR Drummond S11 is next - same boiler as the L12 but smaller driving wheels!

 

Tony

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Longer term followers of this thread may recall my preoccupation with adding to my fleet at least one of every class of loco that the Southern Railway owned at nationalisation; although I have seemingly exhausted all known kits and RTR classes I have not been idel in terms of securing the last few classes that remain.

 

A while ago I persuaded my good friend Arun Sharma to get involved in producing a 3D printed body for an LSWR Drummond L12 - which is a T9 variant, having a larger boiler but identical wheelsets to a T9.

 

Our aim was to produce a body that could directly replace the Hornby model, so that the loco would run on the Hornby chassis.

 

The first print looked good and proved that it could be done, but we quickly realised that the Hornby T9 boiler was metal and that without significant weight our loco would not be balanced - so we changed tack.

 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/public/style_images/master/attachicon.gifDSC_0001.JPG

 

Arun then used the 3D print to develop white metal castings for key components such as the firebox and smokebox, some brass castings for splashers etc, and nickel silver etches for the footplate and cabsides. Whilst this is a far more complex approach, it is also much more robust.

 

I have now commenced building the "Mk.2" L12 and will post updates as the build progresses, but in the meantime I have also decided to look at whether the new body can be mounted on a SEF T9 chassis, so I shall be exploring this at the same time.

 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/public/style_images/master/attachicon.gifSJPPC03000902171203.jpg

 

https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/public/style_images/master/attachicon.gifSJPPC03000502171203.jpg

 

Incidentally, if this all works, then the LSWR Drummond S11 is next - same boiler as the L12 but smaller driving wheels!

 

Tony

Tony,

 

Looking like good progress. I’m impressed with the dedication to your quest. One question, why are you considering the SEF T9 chassis? If the Hornby chassis has the correct wheelbase and wheel diameters I would have thought that it would be cheaper and easier (and probably give better running unless you’re a chassis expert).

 

Regards

 

Andy

 

Andy

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