shanks522 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, bmthtrains - David said: Just had my dispatch email - very excited now! David Me too, I forgot i how many id ordered so really excited... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmthtrains - David Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) Well mine has arrived and it’s a lovely model, though not without its faults - see below. The positives - good runner, factory fitted details on one end saving me a fiddly job, impressive cab and roof details and clear side printing, and the pantograph is excellent. The negatives - the blue paint in the roof well is very thick and means some of the roof detailing gets lost, and the whole top side piece seems to be ill-fitting with a gap at one end and a dent at the other. This appears to be a moulding issue as it affects the same part on the other side. Overall my first impressions are this is a good model let down by some quality control issues. Not quite up to the exceptionally high Pendolino standards, but a welcome addition to my fleet. David Edited December 31, 2020 by bmthtrains - David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Claude_Dreyfus Posted December 31, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 31, 2020 I took delivery of Beethoven this morning and am currently running it in. It is a smooth runner (as to be expected), but does seem to be a little light. I will drop a few container flats behind her later today to see how she hauls. It has been a fascinating process seeing the model develop, and was certainly well worth the wait. Regarding the top side piece, the step is less noticeable on my model (perhaps the darker colour helps). It could be that David is a little unlucky? I now need to see about adding the pack of detailing parts (etched BR arrows, Eurotunnel circles etc.). Given my usual track record for adding detailing parts, that will be some time in 2022... I am sure I will be one of many who will want to record my thanks to Ben, Mike and Rapido Trains for this excellent model. 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Got home from 12 hours of listening to ying ying ying to find this pair of class 60 cousins on the side. Not had them out the box yet, but looking forward to the chance, hopefully at the weekend. Jo 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted December 31, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) Got the first part of my order! Now David’s drawn attention to that small dent in the roof I can’t un-see it! Oh well! If I’m being hyper critical there’s some visible flash on the light lenses too, but it’s a difficult effect to accomplish, and one even Chris Marchant shied away from! They do seem to run well, lovely and quiet. I ran one in and stuck 28 IPAs on it managed them. The issue became drag in the curves of the small test loop I’ve got at the moment giving poor running, although it was clear the loco was trying pretty hard! They’ve got 2 traction tyres, I agree the weight isn’t massive, but they seem capable enough. Looking forward to hearing the sound ones. Not that I’ve got a layout to test them! Edited January 1, 2021 by njee20 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash39 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) I thought David had just been unlucky and got a damaged model but it looks like they all have a dent in the roof. How on earth has that happened? Tight packaging? Mine will be going back if they have the dent. £135 is a lot of money to immediately have your eye drawn to a defect every time you look at it. Edited January 1, 2021 by ash39 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 It may be a 'sink mark' rather than a dent. Is that where there's an attachment point/peg underneath? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmthtrains - David Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) That was my first thought too. I’m surprised Rapido didn’t spot this during production, and while quite noticeable, it doesn’t ‘spoil’ the model for me. The dent and fit of that part, and the thick roof paint are only minor detractions from what is otherwise an excellent model. David Edited January 1, 2021 by bmthtrains - David 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted January 1, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, njee20 said: Got the first part of my order! I ran one in and stuck 28 IPAs on it managed them. The issue became drag in the curves of the small test loop My8 pairs of IPA's have had many hours run on the test circuit. I did find that the axles were squealing a bit after while, I suspect just bedding into the plastic axleboxes. So I brushed out any chaf and applied the tiniest bit of La Belle oil (using a pin to apply) to each axle point and they now run much better even behind Dapol 66's and 67's. Edited January 1, 2021 by roundhouse 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted January 1, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 1, 2021 Thanks Ian, it was a big ask, so I wasn’t dissatisfied with the performance at all. 4 of the IPAs were my own double-deck ones too, which are probably a bit draggier than Revolution’s, and are certainly quite light, which wasn’t helping running issues. I have noticed the 92s really do improve from a bit of running in. A couple have been quite jerky out of the box, but even after a couple of minutes they’re markedly improved, with lovely slow speed running, even on DC. Had the body off one earlier, interesting the socket is underneath all the wiring for the lights, evidently you can get a sound decoder in, but it’s all fairly tight at a glance. I’d say there’s a bit of scope for more weight too if it were an issue. Their arrival has spurred me on to build the layout too, even if the garage isn’t ready to house it yet! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted January 1, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) 59 minutes ago, bmthtrains - David said: That was my first thought too. I’m surprised Rapido didn’t spot this during production, and while quite noticeable, it doesn’t ‘spoil’ the model for me. The dent and fit of that part, and the thick roof paint are only minor detractions from what is otherwise an excellent model. David How thick is your roof paint? Having looked at mine in particular I’m not sure I can fault it? My Caledonian Sleeper below: edit, sorry yours is EWS, maybe a bit thicker on this one for whatever reason. Here’s mine: Edited January 1, 2021 by njee20 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Stop. Posting. Those. Pictures. Makes me want to get mine out and have a play but I'm at work and they're at home! Neither of my layouts has 3rd rail or OHLE, so not sure where I'll run them! Jo 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted January 1, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 1, 2021 You’ve got a layout, Jo! I’ve got a circle of Unitrack on the living room rug, and a 4 year old who keeps dictating what they’re allowed to haul 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu from EGDL Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, njee20 said: Had the body off one earlier, interesting the socket is underneath all the wiring for the lights, evidently you can get a sound decoder in, but it’s all fairly tight at a glance. I’d say there’s a bit of scope for more weight too if it were an issue. Hi Gang, I can vouch that there is space for the sound decoder as I have swapped a blanking plug and decoder between two chassis this morning as I wanted to check the speaker out on the DC only version. Obviously some care is needed as the wires are thin and probably, fragile. Not worried about the slight tooling imperfection with the tiny indent in the roofline, and I feel that it doesn’t detract from the overall look of the loco. I’m also impressed with the running qualities, although I have yet to get a load going behind them. I did give them a touch of lube as they looked a bit dry. I doff my cap to Ben and Mike for their bravery and foresight in seeing this project through to fruition, and I look forward to getting the best out of these locos in due course when the Mk5 sleepers come along. Later, Stu from EGDL. Edited January 1, 2021 by Stu from EGDL 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted January 1, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 1, 2021 Do they come stock with a Loksound V5 though, which is wired isn’t it? Wondering if a direct fit Zimo would be more of a challenge. I suppose the solution there is to just use a wired Zimo...! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu from EGDL Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, njee20 said: Do they come stock with a Loksound V5 though, which is wired isn’t it? Wondering if a direct fit Zimo would be more of a challenge. I suppose the solution there is to just use a wired Zimo...! Hi Nick, No wires on the decoder...simple Next 18 clip fit and the speakers are already pre-wired to the circuit board. Regards, Stu from EGDL. Edited January 1, 2021 by Stu from EGDL 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, njee20 said: You’ve got a layout, Jo! I’ve got a circle of Unitrack on the living room rug, and a 4 year old who keeps dictating what they’re allowed to haul True, my Unitrack test loop just attracts the cat... maybe I should've brought the 92s with me, but I think 1435mm track is a bit wide! Jo Edited January 1, 2021 by Steadfast 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac1874 Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Does the Caledonian Sleeper liveried model have the modifications as per prototype? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted January 1, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 1, 2021 Has anyone received the un-numbered triple grey version yet? Does it come with transfers or do we have to find our own? (I'm looking at modelling 92022 Charles Dickens with the Rail Freight Distribution branding & logo). Steven B 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted January 1, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 1, 2021 Yes I’ve got one. No decals included, but I spoke to Ben who said that they will be following on. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jivebunny Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 7 hours ago, njee20 said: Yes I’ve got one. No decals included, but I spoke to Ben who said that they will be following on. I bet that post will save them a few e-mails, thanks for that any idea if we'll need to request them or if they'll be systematically posted to us when available? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium njee20 Posted January 1, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 1, 2021 He implied systematically posted, and that he would mail all recipients in due course once their arrival date was known, but I’d hate to speak for him! @Ben A 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Revolution Ben Posted January 2, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2021 Hello all, Spent much of the day packing in preparation for another mailshot tomorrow. There are still hundreds to send out so please bear with us, but in answer to some questions: 1) The coupler modifications were made to the prototypes after tooling was complete, so we were unable to provide it. In the box 92018 is correct for the period from 2015 on when Mk3 sleepers were still in use. For use with the Mk5s - introduced in 2019 - the locomotives were fitted with a lift-up Dellner unit as shown in the image linked from Flickr below. As can be seen, the Dellner head, with some additional piping, hangs from the existing coupler hook. The only change to the body are the tiny 'notches' above the buffers which I think are to allow the buffers to be locked in the retracted position. A scratchbuild or 3D print may be the simplest solution. 2) We are sending out the unbranded models without the decal sheets as they're not quite ready; they will follow in due course and will include names of approx 40 of the original fleet, along with additional markings (eg 'Railfreight Distribution' lettering) but not representations of the nameplates on Elgar, Ravel, Ashford or Charles Dickens. We haven't yet worked out exactly how this will happen; if you ordered an unbranded model then keep an eye on our website. We will try to make it automatic but if we can't we may need to create a simple response form for those requiring the sheet. The sheets will be free to those who purchased the undecorated models from us, or from our approved retailers, but a small number will additionally be made available for sale to anyone else. 3) As with any mass-produced model, there are inevitably going to be some variations and minor flaws. We have already helped a handful of customers with various small issues around running, or where the wrong model was sent. If anyone is truly unhappy with their Class 92 we will of course refund them, however as the photo above shows ripples and undulations are not unknown on the real thing. 4) Some of the DCC Sound versions have not arrived yet, so some customers who have paid will not be able to receive their models just yet. The remaining items should be here within the next fortnight. We're sorry about this but once the first shipment arrived we thought it best to start sending the models out; we may have missed Christmas but at least we managed, we hope, to create a bit of joy to round off what was a terrible 2020 for many of us! cheers Ben A. 17 1 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmthtrains - David Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 I’m impressed how quickly you’re getting these models shipped! Once you’ve both had a short break, if you happen to start work on a new class 90 to the same spec as the 92 I’ll start waving money at you... David 4 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Received my GBRF 92 this morning. Paint in the well is superb and no sign of any dents in the roof. Grateful thanks to the Revolution boys for all the hard work on this over the last 4 or 5 years. Mike 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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