JZ Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Just had an e-mail from Hattons to say that the first two numbers have been confirmed and a price. M79964 with large yellow panels M79963 with small yellow panels Price is £88, which I don't think is too bad 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summer_Saturday Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Details of four of them now on Hatton's website: http://www.ehattons.com/stocklist/results.aspx?searchfield=railbus Is that M prefix correct?: http://www.railcar.co.uk/hisOthers/WMnum.htm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Is that M prefix correct?: http://www.railcar.co.uk/hisOthers/WMnum.htm After a period in store 79961/4 were transferred to Buxton (LMR) in July '66 where they replaced the Park Royal Railbuses on the Millers Dale services. From the same site, a few tabs further on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summer_Saturday Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 After a period in store 79961/4 were transferred to Buxton (LMR) in July '66 where they replaced the Park Royal Railbuses on the Millers Dale services. From the same site, a few tabs further on I've been at work since 5am you know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Wonder if they will have lighting in the passenger compartment and directional lighting. Also were will the DCC socket be? and how accessable will it be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D6975 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Perhaps this will be the first to have a flap on the bottom giving access to the chip space.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZ Posted October 24, 2010 Author Share Posted October 24, 2010 Still no news on the others they said they would be producing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted October 24, 2010 Share Posted October 24, 2010 Ideal bit of kit for the modeller of mid cornwall in the mid 60s One of them on the passenger side and an 03 shunting the yard should get the Tweed twitching .... Sorry but NO! The W&M's were based at Cambridge from new until withdrawn & stored there. 2 (may have been only 1?) were then moved to Derbyshire for a short period. They never worked anywhere else. Incidentally, Cambridge was a bit of a magnet for railbuses, as I saw 1 of most if not all types there (can't check numbers as I'm at work). We always thought this was for maintenance or comparison tests, as they were quite successfully used in the area until lines closed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted October 24, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 24, 2010 Ideal bit of kit for the modeller of mid cornwall in the mid 60s One of them on the passenger side and an 03 shunting the yard should get the Tweed twitching .... The ones used in Cornwall were the WR's AC Cars built version Mickey - much nicer looking than those German ones I reckoned. And I even have a photo of one I took when changing trains at Boscarne Jcn 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted October 25, 2010 Share Posted October 25, 2010 So who is going to go to KWVR and record and do a sound chip then? I suspect that the chip space will be the guards central area but the motor will also be in there! Not a bad price when you look at the Dapol Park Royal one and fit a chassis from one of the advertisers and it's decorated for you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Russ (mines a pint) Posted October 27, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 27, 2010 the fact that they are painted up is well worth an extra £40 on the 'Dapol kit package' in my eyes, if this varient did Speyside then Bobs my Uncle for the next plan! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted October 28, 2010 Share Posted October 28, 2010 the fact that they are painted up is well worth an extra £40 on the 'Dapol kit package' in my eyes, if this varient did Speyside then Bobs my Uncle for the next plan! You do not have an Uncle called Bob yet then Russ. Bide your time for one of the next variants, the W&M version didn't come North (the only version that didn't IIRC). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Deltic Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 I can see a Stour Valley or Colne Valley project coming up with the W+M rail bus. Plus the class 15, Class 105, Derby Lightweight........ When are we going to see a J15 I wonder.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggoforgold Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 .... When are we going to see a J15 I wonder.... Seconded Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 46444 Posted November 1, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 1, 2010 ........ When are we going to see a J15 I wonder.... Thirded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 I've been assisting Howes/Heljan as much as I can with railbus information. I think it's unlikely that the WMDs which went to Buxton would have got M prefixes. As far as I can tell none of the cars that went late to Scotland (ACs and Park Royals)had their prefixes changed. There are pictures of PRs in Scotland still with M on the side and certainly AC Cars W79976 still has its W prefixes visible without any sign that they were ever altered. I believe the Heljan model announced with an M prefix will, in fact, have the 'E'. However, I did suggest that a bit of modellers licence might allow them to put Buxton etc in the blind boxes even though its unlikely that the blinds got changed. If you look at pictures of the ACs running in Cornwall, they still show the Kemble destinations or nothing at all. Lots of pictures of railbuses in Scotland show them running with plain white - no blind at all - but I think it would be disappointing if Heljan chose not to put anything in the destination box. CHRIS LEIGH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonhall Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 I've been assisting Howes/Heljan as much as I can with railbus information. I think it's unlikely that the WMDs which went to Buxton would have got M prefixes. As far as I can tell none of the cars that went late to Scotland (ACs and Park Royals)had their prefixes changed. There are pictures of PRs in Scotland still with M on the side and certainly AC Cars W79976 still has its W prefixes visible without any sign that they were ever altered. I believe the Heljan model announced with an M prefix will, in fact, have the 'E'. However, I did suggest that a bit of modellers licence might allow them to put Buxton etc in the blind boxes even though its unlikely that the blinds got changed. If you look at pictures of the ACs running in Cornwall, they still show the Kemble destinations or nothing at all. Lots of pictures of railbuses in Scotland show them running with plain white - no blind at all - but I think it would be disappointing if Heljan chose not to put anything in the destination box. CHRIS LEIGH How is your 1:1 AC project going Chris? Jon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted November 2, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 2, 2010 ........ When are we going to see a J15 I wonder.... Thirded. And a Claud Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mod2 Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Enough with the wishlisting please gents, this is a useful topic on the railbuses so let's keep it to that. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
00ERmissus Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 I have two of these on order and will be interested to see how they stack up against the Silver Fox model of the same that I bought a few years ago, which I still rate very highly, despite its un-prototypical top speed of about 150mph!! I have photos (in a book) of all 3 of Heljan’s planned ‘E’ prefix versions at work on my local branch (Saffron Walden) in the early 60’s, in various liveries of the period. Was there any evidence of the progress on this model at Warley last weekend and does anyone know if delivery is still planned for early 2011? Also, what about the other railbuses they announced last year? I haven’t heard anything about them for a while now and Heljan hasn’t updated its ‘Products to come’ web page for over a year, so no clues there either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 24, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 24, 2010 They had a 'grey' example on view at Warley which looked ok to me but I'm the first to admit my acquaintanceship with the WuM railbuses is no more than looking at the pages of a book. But at least there are signs of progress and hopefully they'll get the bugs sorted on this one before moving on to the variant more suited to my tastes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 I have two of these on order and will be interested to see how they stack up against the Silver Fox model of the same that I bought a few years ago, which I still rate very highly, despite its un-prototypical top speed of about 150mph!! I have photos (in a book) of all 3 of Heljan’s planned ‘E’ prefix versions at work on my local branch (Saffron Walden) in the early 60’s, in various liveries of the period. I wonder if these models are going to cause a rush of models of the Saffron Walden branch. For me it's enough to pick up (almost) where I left off thirty-something years ago. Long before the Silver Fox, I did start making bits of a W&M body to fit on a Piko CSD M131.1 railcar chassis - dimensions taken from a broadside photo at Weybourne - but like 90% of projects from those days it never came to anything. (Much the same these days, for different reasons). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Was there any evidence of the progress on this model at Warley last weekend and does anyone know if delivery is still planned for early 2011? (quote) There was a sample in 'works silver', complete except for the buffer heads. We borrowed it for photography. I don't think I'm giving away any state secrets if I say it weighs heavy, runs well, has drive to both axles and a full interior in the passenger saloons. The chassis is cast and largely hidden by the WMD's skirting. The other railbuses will require a VERY different chassis, presumably that's why they aren't progressing so quickly. CHRIS LEIGH 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
00ERmissus Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 Many thanks for that Chris , it sounds very promising indeed. My other local branch is (was) St. Margarets - Buntingford (Herts) where Wickham (of Ware) often used to trial new locos as I'm sure you well know, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the Heljan Wickham Railbus model does come to fruition. I have video footage of one (SC numbered) leaving Buntingford on a test run! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Max Stafford Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 "The chassis is cast and largely hidden by the WMD's skirting." Good Lord Chris, no wonder it's heavy! That description suggests the block is made from weapons grade plutonium...! Sounds promising though and like Paul's just said, that's not a bad price at all considering! Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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