Andy Reichert Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 I only just found your topic, so I'm a bit late replying. But back on page 1 I saw your first turnout build. It seemed to me that your guard rails had different spacings? So I wondered, were you using just the Fast Tracks templates for positioning them, or a O scale track gauge, such as The NMRA one? Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMO Posted December 1, 2019 Author Share Posted December 1, 2019 Andy, I look again the first page to see what you get. No, the positions of the guardrails are right. It's an 'optic illusion' because the angle of shooting of the photo wasn't vertical and the lens was positioned very close to the target so it creates a big perspective. All my turnouts are tested with different kind of O scale wheels before to validate their use on the layout. If the result isn't perfect for operation, I modify the problem. I used only Fasttracks template and my knowledge of making my own turnouts in N and HO scales to make them. Andy, if you have a layout, do you make your own turnouts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMO Posted December 1, 2019 Author Share Posted December 1, 2019 I've tried to paint and weather my grain elevator using MIG acrylics and black ink. I've tested the techniques on the head of the elevator... After validation of the way to do it, I began to do that on the elevator 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Reichert Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 On 01/12/2019 at 00:54, JAMO said: Andy, I look again the first page to see what you get. No, the positions of the guardrails are right. It's an 'optic illusion' because the angle of shooting of the photo wasn't vertical and the lens was positioned very close to the target so it creates a big perspective. All my turnouts are tested with different kind of O scale wheels before to validate their use on the layout. If the result isn't perfect for operation, I modify the problem. I used only Fasttracks template and my knowledge of making my own turnouts in N and HO scales to make them. Andy, if you have a layout, do you make your own turnouts? I make turnout components and turnout kits for the Proto:87 SIG as the Proto:87 Stores. But much on my stuff is usable for HO, N and Z as well, using different frogs and guard rail settings. Andy 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted December 4, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Andy Reichert said: I make turnout components and turnout kits for the Proto:87 SIG as the Proto:87 Stores. But much on my stuff is usable for HO, N and Z as well, using different frogs and guard rail settings. And indeed, useful for S, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 On 01/12/2019 at 09:17, JAMO said: I've tried to paint and weather my grain elevator using MIG acrylics and black ink. I've tested the techniques on the head of the elevator... A bit of a shame your elevator had to undergo rather drastic surgery!! Probably far too late now, but couldn't you have lost the height proportionally, taking sections out of the main body as well as the top to reduce the height but keep the building 'complete', if you see what I mean? I understand the top may not be too visible with the front layout frame screening it, but it does look a bit odd "headless". The weathering of it is good, though!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMO Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 hours ago, F-UnitMad said: A bit of a shame your elevator had to undergo rather drastic surgery!! Probably far too late now, but couldn't you have lost the height proportionally, taking sections out of the main body as well as the top to reduce the height but keep the building 'complete', if you see what I mean? I understand the top may not be too visible with the front layout frame screening it, but it does look a bit odd "headless". The weathering of it is good, though!! Yes, I could cut it in different heights and to keep nice proportions but it should be more difficult to reconnect the parts together because of the clapboard and the size should be more close to HO than O scale. I took a long period before to cut it. After a lot of time of checking, my conclusion was: the upper edge of the layout will hide the head of the elevator. We will focus on the cars loading and the bottom part of the building. We'll can't see the top of the elevator... I hope. This solution wasn't easy to decide but I couldn't keep this building to its normal size: the ceiling of the boards are too low (45 cm high). Too low because I was ought to have smallest as possible boards. The main difficulty is to carry them from the basement to the car. Not easy, heavy and big. So I found that solution good for me. And thank you for the weathering. I'll post more photos soon to show the progress. I'm pleased with the result of this weathering. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted December 4, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 4, 2019 Agreed, they do get a fair old size. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMO Posted December 6, 2019 Author Share Posted December 6, 2019 And the result: 4 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMO Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 Sorry for the delay: more work on the elevator. The doors. 7 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Very realistic!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielB Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Excellent work Jack 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMO Posted January 4, 2020 Author Share Posted January 4, 2020 Thank you my friends. The doors are open so I have to detail inside of the building. Thanks to Google and a special group on Facebook, I've found all the informations I needed to detail the interior. I go to try to explain you. On each side of the "corridor", there are the bins. These last are made of wooden planks. There is a door access for each of the bins. In the center, you can see the wheel to select the destination bin and just behind, the "leg": the elevator of the grain. Behind the leg, there is a big hopper (up) where the grain arrives from the bins. Underneath, a small scale hopper to weight the grain they sell. This is not easy to explain with words and especially for me (I'm French). Some pictures can help to understand the way of the grain from the trucks to the trains. Here is a schematic view of an elevator with the internal layout description. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Probably familiar already as I'm sure it's been posted before on RMweb, but maybe worth repeating here; http://www.nfb.ca/film/grain_elevator/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastairq Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Hi...will you be using box cars with grain doors? [I think there used to be 'paper' grain 'doors' sold...printed out with logos & stuff?] IIRC, Milwaukee Road boxcars [Horizontal steel ribbed]..were sometimes modified with hatches set in the roof.....like a hopper, but not a hopper....? Would make a subtle difference in detail, if within period? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMO Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 hours ago, F-UnitMad said: Probably familiar already as I'm sure it's been posted before on RMweb, but maybe worth repeating here; http://www.nfb.ca/film/grain_elevator/ Yes, I know this video. It's a very nice one. Good for inspiration and nice atmosphere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMO Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 hours ago, alastairq said: Hi...will you be using box cars with grain doors? [I think there used to be 'paper' grain 'doors' sold...printed out with logos & stuff?] IIRC, Milwaukee Road boxcars [Horizontal steel ribbed]..were sometimes modified with hatches set in the roof.....like a hopper, but not a hopper....? Would make a subtle difference in detail, if within period? Yes, I'll use 40' boxcars and early PS-2 covered hoppers. I model the early 60's. I'll make a hopper modified into covered hopper like ATSF has done. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMO Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 I have several boxcars (40') from Atlas/Roco and Atlas. I have to make grain doors. And several PS-2 covered hoppers from Weaver and Atlas. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMO Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 Well, after the main building, there is something important to model: the employee's office. This little shed of wood can be positioned at the back or beside the grain elevator. Here, I haven't no other possibility than to put it beside if I want to model it. I started with the "head" of the grain elevator. Here is the front of the elevator which become the side of the office. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMO Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 After some work... 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMO Posted February 28, 2020 Author Share Posted February 28, 2020 I've decided to enlarge the grain storage adding 2 grain bins. So this little shed becomes the coal and fuel dealer's office. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 hour ago, JAMO said: I've decided to enlarge the grain storage adding 2 grain bins. I'll be interested to see what you use to model those. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMO Posted February 29, 2020 Author Share Posted February 29, 2020 Back to the grain elevator. At the origin, I had built only one classic elevator but I had to hide the brackets. After some time spent to find photos on the web, I've the idea to build a grain bin onto the brackets. The problem: the brackets. The added grain bin onto the brackets: I'll show you how I've built it. Stay tuned... 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 hour ago, JAMO said: Stay tuned... We will!! Looks like a really good idea, too! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMO Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) More... I've built the grain bin using a piece of cardboard (0,5 mm thick), foamboard to keep the card in shape. The corrugation are made with fine white "one sided cardboard". Edited March 6, 2020 by JAMO 4 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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