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Flooring, bogies and brake discs added on DTSOs and TSO. Flooring, brake discs and Motor installed on MSO. Wiring for internal lighting to be connected to all wheels on all four cars. Going to add detailing to bogies and then start on the undercarriage components. 

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11 hours ago, newbryford said:

Just discovered this thread.

 

Nice work!

 

Cheers,

Mick

Thanks. I enjoy reading other's threads on southern units in this era and I don't think there's enough of us so I like sharing in the hope others will come forwards too. 

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Class 455/8 Update: the cab & side vents from @PPDLtd arrived & are absolutely amazing! Big thanks to Piers & Ross for their patience and skills in reproducing these from the notes and diagrams I gave them, they're awesome. 0.3mm thick brass. Order #27941 if anyone wants to order some from them at enquiries@ppdltd.com

 

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My apologies for the lack of updates, I've been all over the place lately. So I've begun the painting process. Priming always uncovers the areas you've not got right so following some filling, filing and sanding, I've now started painting and spraying the livery. Its going into Blue Grey, a livery they looked awesome in with those chunky yellow cab fronts.

I've also built the MSO, wired up the connections and power supplying wheels, fitted the Hornby Class 153 motor and fitted out the undercarriage components. 

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With painting nearing completion, now turning attention towards detailing. Transfers have been recieved from Railtec Transfers and they're spot on, bespoke for my unit 5873.

Printed off the destination blinds but undecided on final options yet. I'm pleased with them too. They'll look good with the lighting on. Once the final painted elements are done, focus will move to adding on all the pipes, handrails and wipers etc.20190308_002547.jpg.fddbae996cea03a5e403c4f9ff5473c1.jpgIMG_-2ppwsx.jpg.34c53ec402e29181baeed9b68ff2e6c2.jpgIMG_z35sb9.jpg.6a228e3766c9a85edc79db0155204768.jpgIMG_20190308_073337.jpg.5d531f63fc6e5cab51f30362ae8a7956.jpg

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Took quite a lot of searching to figure out the correct data panel data, but got there in the end (even if you might need a magnifying glass to read it in 4mm). For the benefit of others searching on the site for something similar, the cl455 unit was achieved via this versatile custom item here:

 

Pack 4mm-9091

http://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=2251

 

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Spares of everything incl and all spot printed so there's no superfluous carrier film to worry about.  Pack is equally applicable to NSE / Stagecoach / Jaffa - the numbers are changed (incl prefix with or without a gap) and TOPS class / data panel depending on what's needed.

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18 hours ago, railtec-models said:

Took quite a lot of searching to figure out the correct data panel data, but got there in the end (even if you might need a magnifying glass to read it in 4mm). For the benefit of others searching on the site for something similar, the cl455 unit was achieved via this versatile custom item here:

 

Pack 4mm-9091

http://www.railtec-models.com/showitem.php?id=2251

 

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Spares of everything incl and all spot printed so there's no superfluous carrier film to worry about.  Pack is equally applicable to NSE / Stagecoach / Jaffa - the numbers are changed (incl prefix with or without a gap) and TOPS class / data panel depending on what's needed.

These will save so much time, effort and fiddling around chopping up numbers. Great result and stunning work Railtec Transfers,  thank you. I also have your push door button transfers to use on this model so it will be a total Railtec unit.

 

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So the paint job has neared completion and I'm now in a position where I can start adding on the detail.

 

I've wired up all the bogies ready to power the internal lighting.

I've painted in the white lining on the blue grey livery. 

Started to add all the detail such as handrails, horns, destination blinds and vestibule doors.

Added on Railtec Transfers which are awesome and so much easier being unit specific.

 

And suddenly you can see your model and it's like Oh there it is. There's my unit. There's my 455, it's real!

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While 455 interiors are in progress, I thought I'd also get started on a few earlier build upgrades.

My first and oldest MJT build is 4CIG 1881 which I built around 15 years ago. I've never been happy with the finish as the vestibule doors on the cab are too short and because I converted it from Lima Mk1s, there were incorrect underframe components left on. 

So I'm pleased to be in a position to now be able to go back and correct what I'm not happy with. 

First up those cab fronts. I've rebuilt the vestibule doors using plasticard and some spares. Definately looks better. I've never understood how both Hornby and Bachmann got these fronts wrong. MJT have the cab correct but their doors are way too short so it just looks wrong. I was really pleased with 6REP as that was a combination of MJT cabs with corrected Hornby VEP doors so it was essential that 4CIG looked as close to that as possible. Having added them on and painted them, I'll weather them to match the cabs once a few more tweaks are done.

Next up, those incorrect Lima Mk1 underframes. It was a challenge at the time to remove the moulded on battery boxes as that would've meant rebuilding the trussing which I wasn't equipped to do.  So now I've removed the entire undercarriage with my trusty dremel and started from scratch using brass trussing and Southern Pride undercarriage components. The first DTC is almost done. I've also stripped back the inner ends so I can get onto those next...

The cabs need the handrails replacing, repainting of the black window surrounds and the detailing added. 

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Loving your work as ever. Just on the Lima conversions above and looking at the wheels, can I recommend these: 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peters-Spares-PS34-Lima-Replacement-12mm-Wagon-Coach-Wheels-x1-Pair/331646693786?hash=item4d37aef19a:g:xjcAAOSw04FbqnQ8

 

No connection, etc. Have used on various old Lima things I have and been quite happy. Right Lima axle length and much more sensible profile.

Looking forward to more.

Rich

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Thanks Rich, love a recommendation,

On 17/05/2019 at 19:04, Rich Papper said:

Loving your work as ever. Just on the Lima conversions above and looking at the wheels, can I recommend these: 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peters-Spares-PS34-Lima-Replacement-12mm-Wagon-Coach-Wheels-x1-Pair/331646693786?hash=item4d37aef19a:g:xjcAAOSw04FbqnQ8

 

No connection, etc. Have used on various old Lima things I have and been quite happy. Right Lima axle length and much more sensible profile.

Looking forward to more.

Rich

ordered today. Will see how it goes. Appreciate the help.

Danny...

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1 hour ago, Mersey507003 said:

Something I think would be effective if thats the right word would be say 2 x 6 car 313 sets and another 455 either running on its own service or potentially 3 x 4 car 455s to enable either 4 or 8 car running to show a busy scene during rush hour.

 

I realise these models are expensive that I'd probably be told where to go but its just something that ok I've never seen 6 car 313s or 8 car 455s in real life except on youtube as I have 507s and 508s where I live ( soon to be replaced by horrible articulated 777s ) but I have seen 6 car sets of the 507/508s running non atop as ecs , semi fast or express and when you see them belting through stations or over level crossings it stirs the thoughts of " whats the best way to model this ".

Well I'm currently working on upgrading a 4CIG and completing my first Bratchell 455 kit. I already have an MTK 455 which alongside the Bratchell one looks a bit wrong but I have ran them both together on a friends layout and its fair to say they run well together. I would love another 313 as it just seems right to have another but it wont be this year unfortunately given my planned agenda on builds and current stock waiting patiently for their turn on the workbench. 

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18 hours ago, Lyddrail said:

Danny,

Only just rediscovered your topic after the RMWeb change! Well done with the 455, looking good in blue/grey.

Cheers.

Thanks its coming along well. I've got 3 interiors left to do and some bits of detailing and its finished. Going back to some of my earlier builds now and upgrading. I've since been tinkering with my MTK model 455 which I'm sure you would appreciate. I bought it from MTK at an open day in the mid eighties. WP_20150329_19_15_50_Pro.jpg.04a8f0b5b1ed56b2c8512a8cf0c9ca4a.jpgWP_20150206_18_00_54_Pro.jpg.202be62fa2f1890a4df5ae7d7414be0a.jpgWP_20141123_002.jpg.a3805b8985ccf345086a39c2c3b9e510.jpg

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Made some progress on 4CIG with lighting installed, DTC2 headcode blinds and headlight fitted, all bogie pickups fitted and the DTC2 inner end  corrected. Some filling, detailing and paint job tweaking to follow this week. DTC1 up next.IMG_tctjjv.jpg.e93b4d9454ada48e52bb8cc5d5581636.jpg20190527_164625.jpg.e82d1e505469034d976f305452ea77c3.jpg20190527_163247.jpg.b8e234ae3275c7a9ff42d78f17b08f8c.jpg20190526_132102.jpg.1b2eccf429e646b28b5afca1c7475dd1.jpg

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DTC1 rebuilt now with replacement underframe, undercarriage components, bogies wired up, added inner end cable boxes, internal lighting, headlight and lit destination blinds. Southwestern division route 81 Waterloo to Portsmouth Harbour fast direct via Guildford. IMG_-3lt27b.jpg.54210ddf8727be719d22aa817a81195a.jpg20190530_214120.jpg.1c1fcb329ce90b1ac0f2def8543cab34.jpg20190528_230249.jpg.c33f71702f06977dc1c259abaacb2eb2.jpg20190528_225021.jpg.aa3142e0fa39318358f0b970b7dd8a12.jpg

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22 hours ago, dasatcopthorne said:

Who's etch have you used for the u/f trussing please?

 

Dave.

 

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