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6REP, 5WES, 319/1 & 313/0 conversions and builds in NSE

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45 minutes ago, LU_fan said:

 

I've already got an NSE project that I've wanted to do for years lined up, but that doesn't sound very encouraging.

 

Please don't be put off. It's just a case of mask, paint, wait to dry, repeat. It's no different in that regard than any other livery and certainly not any more difficult, it's just the more colours, the more tape.

Rich

 

PS loving the MLV. Mine is blue / grey but this is tempting me...

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1 hour ago, LU_fan said:

 

I've already got an NSE project that I've wanted to do for years lined up, but that doesn't sound very encouraging.

Dont be put off, it's harder than blue grey because you have to apply more colours one at a time but it's certainly no harder other than keeping straight lines and minimising bleed.  You'll be fine ;-)

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Danny,

Don't forget the battery hatch safety catches. Looking very good though.

Cheers.

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11 hours ago, Rich Papper said:

 

Please don't be put off. It's just a case of mask, paint, wait to dry, repeat. It's no different in that regard than any other livery and certainly not any more difficult, it's just the more colours, the more tape.

Rich

 

10 hours ago, pdanny said:

Dont be put off, it's harder than blue grey because you have to apply more colours one at a time but it's certainly no harder other than keeping straight lines and minimising bleed.  You'll be fine ;-)

 

Well, that's true. That's true. And, come to think of it, using masking putty or something similat might reduce the amount of masking tape needed. Might also help reduce the amount of bleed there is.

 

Oh well, I've still got some time to think about techniques and such as the kit in question isn't actually out yet. But as soon as it arrives, I'll get to work on it right away.

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On 18/08/2019 at 10:21, Lyddrail said:

Danny,

Don't forget the battery hatch safety catches. Looking very good though.

Cheers.

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Oh yes I have those on my detailing list and that pic is fantastic in terms of weathering. The DCKits one will be treated to look more like this where as the Bachmann one will have a fresher look. Thanks buddy...

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On 20/08/2019 at 16:18, Lyddrail said:

 

And ADB 977364 which I also want to model. Arjay models produce it so it's on my list! Great pics, thank you!!!

 

I've now finished painting and I've added the decals. Ready to restore glazing and add on all the detailing. I particularly love the battery hatch safety catches you referred to :)

 

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Your painting is very good. I didn't know Ajay Models does the deicer coach, I want another to do the NSE one as my MTK model is in blue livery.

Cheers.

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3 hours ago, Lyddrail said:

Your painting is very good. I didn't know Ajay Models does the deicer coach, I want another to do the NSE one as my MTK model is in blue livery.

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But the real railway only ever had one. Apparently it seemed like a really good idea at the time since there were (or would have been in time) a good number of "Bulleid" compartment trailers going spare and ripe for conversion, and the intention was to actually use them between two passenger units in service trains. (That really happened, incidentally, I remember seeing a 4CEP-deicer-4CEP formed service train depart towards London from Ashford one Sunday in early 1962.)

However, fitting proper drawgear and buckeye couplings to both ends of a formerly close-coupled trailer proved problematic and expensive, and the intended scheme never went further than the prototype. I believe that at least one preserved line looked at ex-SR trailer vehicles as a potential source of "historic" rolling stock until they were told how difficult conversion would have been.

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1 hour ago, Sophia NSE said:

Absolutely love your work. How do you create such a precise curve on the NSE upsweeps?

Practise tbh. Study photos the get the right sweep in the right place and then good masking technique pays huge dividends. You have to take your time and be patient. For masking, I use Scotch Invisible Tape. I cut the curve of the up sweep into the tape and hand paint the stripe in. Once I've removed the tape, any corrections and amends can be corrected with a  cocktail stick and fine brush with white spirit. You have to take you time with NSE but it pays off when done well.

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Just got a couple of Hornby VEPs for a very good price so currently upgrading them. Love the Hornby VEP, I think they did a great job. Let's be honest though, there are some flaws. The cabs aren't quite right, the roof vents are tiny, the B5 bogies are fitted the wrong way round and the compartments on the earlier production have no windows or doors on the corridor side. Over the next few posts I'll show you my progress and share my tips on upgrading these units.20190826_123812.jpg.1d89721e3a3a140c28e147d907ab6929.jpg20190826_123918.jpg.c58c42f3570adaecd6dcafaf0bd336a3.jpg20190826_123846.jpg.1bbd12d036e17a24e164952e8b4ad15c.jpg20190826_123819.jpg.574049663e1af005b306b5900924db73.jpg

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First up are the cabs. The detail is exceptional however the windows and cable boxes are too far inset and the vestibule door is a little too narrow. I replaced these with MJT cabs which are correctly proportioned however I've kept the original vestibule door and cut in the physical cab door so it's much more detailed than the MJT one which is too short anyway. It also means the lighting and destination blinds are kept too. I also kept the detail such as the handrails and cabling.

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The vestibule door is literally cut out of the removed cab front and fitted inside the original vestibule door frame. This needs widening by 1mm which is done by cutting in half and filled with plasticard.  The door once inside is brought forward slightly again with 1mm plasticard.  The MJT cab can then be painted and the door fixed on.

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With the cabs replaced, glazing and detailing to follow, I've moved on to some of the other elements, adding decals, fitting better sized roof scallop vents, correcting bogies, painting the roof grey not black, correcting the cantrail rainstrip to NSE Red instead of orange and adding the black cab fronts.

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Working on the interiors now. The compartments have no doors or windows on the interiors which is a shame as the detail from Hornby is actually really good. They corrected thisbon the Blue Grey liveried model however on the NSE and Blue version this wasn't the case.  I basically cut the solid panel out and fixed Southern Pride Models compartment walls on, painting the interiors and adding some detailing like headrests made from plain address labels...

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Glazing back in the cabs, interiors painted and detailed, I'm now ready to add all the detailing back on.

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That's it, job done. Cab windows back in from the original Hornby cabs, jumper cables reattached, handrails, wipers and horns added. I've pictured it alongside the next unit to be upgraded so you can see the difference.  Really pleased with how it's turned out. One down, two left to go...

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33 minutes ago, amwells said:

The difference is quite staggering!

Sadly, it's a shame as the Hornby model is superb in every other way. I was genuinely thrilled when I saw Hornby release it so it was a disappointment to find they hadn't captured the cab fronts we loved so much on the Southern. The Bachmann 4TC is closer but still not quite right as the cab windows seem too big. I wouldn't bother changing them though, lol!

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Right, that's 1 of 3 done. Added headcode blinds, route 52 London Waterloo to Alton semi-fast. Also added all the detailing to the NSE MLV I was working on prior.

Next up I have another NSE 4VEP and a non VEP Conversion class 423/0 livery tbc.

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So VEP number two is now underway. It's going to be a class 423/0 in its pre conversion format with the full sized mailvan, so I'm using the Hornby Blue liveried version as a base. It's going to be in the early NSE livery so the first job was to remove the curtains. I've also replaced the cabs using the same method as the previous one.IMG_-n9cnhx.jpg.de2357bb2f06e554741b2c0fa4f024ea.jpgIMG_-pabchl.jpg.ffc6de6b6ed381285abb560ed8b7487a.jpgIMG_20bm1k.jpg.3ae86b0541a5d5cd45203011e6146b8c.jpg20190925_201444.jpg.bf1bf40e8c6924a01e930b6e5a34b0fe.jpg20190926_010256.jpg.889e79540f1ffcfd757d3648e439adf3.jpg

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I am also painting a blue vep into NSE, not going to the extent of your conversion though. How did you remove the curtains from the glazing with out effecting the clear plastic?

 

thanks in advance,

 

Dan

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6 hours ago, Dan Griffin said:

I am also painting a blue vep into NSE, not going to the extent of your conversion though. How did you remove the curtains from the glazing with out effecting the clear plastic?

 

thanks in advance,

 

Dan

 

Pop off the bodyshells and using a 4mm wide brush, paint the curtains with Brake Fluid taking extreme care not to get it anywhere else on the carriage. You can buy it from Halfords. It's great for paint stripping but if you get it on the bodyshell it will strip the paint off. Paint the curtains and leave for 5mins, then scrape them off gently with a cocktail stick. It literally peels off.20190923_153833.jpg.91081d9c00c1318c2a7565262d07eb7d.jpg20190923_161032.jpg.1a47c1ea357a05655498b5f135ae1cdb.jpg

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