Derekstuart Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Do tell X2 Nice to see somebody still playing with Lima 37's, I never got round to lowering them as there were many other issues which were easier to fix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekstuart Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 I had a go with a Lima 37 today (actually my second go but let us not mention the first), using Andrew's method for the trailing bogie and for the power bogie removing the side pads completely and then fabricating a new pair of 'beams' for the motor bogie pivots to rest on. It improves the look beyond belief. However, I think the gap between the top of the bogie frame and body is too big. But if you reduce that (easy for the power end, not so for the other) then you run the risk of reducing the overall height to the point where it looks silly again. If Andrew doesn't mind, I will post some photos tomorrow and compare the methods. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
37114 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Do tell X2 Mostly were general detailing modifications and were things like Window frame replacements, roof fan grilles, proper lamp brackets, 2 of my 37's appeared in November 2003 Railway Modeller which listed most of the mods. Visually the cab windows jar the most with the Lima models, I haven't tried the EE etches on a Lima model as I had moved on to Bachmann base models by the time the EE range came out. With the exception of having a better motor, and body shape (with tumble home) the Bachmann ones need most of the detailing modifications applicable to a Lima model... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewribs Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 I had a go with a Lima 37 today (actually my second go but let us not mention the first), using Andrew's method for the trailing bogie and for the power bogie removing the side pads completely and then fabricating a new pair of 'beams' for the motor bogie pivots to rest on. It improves the look beyond belief. However, I think the gap between the top of the bogie frame and body is too big. But if you reduce that (easy for the power end, not so for the other) then you run the risk of reducing the overall height to the point where it looks silly again. If Andrew doesn't mind, I will post some photos tomorrow and compare the methods. Hi, please do. Andrew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekstuart Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Thanks Andrew The two external photos are self explanatory. I do think the body is still sitting too high on the bogie, but as previously I think lowering it too much would then make it look worse overall. What I did afterwards (not photographed) was to put 2 HST power cars, one each side, with a metal ruler across the top of the three bodies- and it surprised me a little when I found that the 37 was slightly proud of the power cars. All three were sitting on the same Lima pizza cutter/ steam roller wheels. I don't know what height the 37 is in relation to a HST, but can't imagine it being all that different. As Andrew wrote- rightly- that you aren't going to get a highly accurate model out of the basic Lima 37, but so far it does seem as if it can be made into a passable representation. With the internal photo, that white piece of plastic has been used as a temporary bolster only, so that I can try and gauge and adjust the height more easily (shave a bit off the bottom to make it lower, pack plastic to raise it). It isn't a permanent solution as it isn't very strong- look at it incorrectly and it will come away- and also the bogie mount is so narrow that it makes it very easy for the body to tip a bit. But as a quick fix whilst finding the right height, it's a good option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekstuart Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Just a quick addition showing what I think the spacing should look like for the bogies and tanks in relation to the body- this was changed in a very quick and crude way in MS Paint. Any opinions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewribs Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 Hi Looking good, have you made it a more permanent/stronger fix? Andrew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derekstuart Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 No, I haven't yet. Still not happy that I have the right height. Though I did think (I haven't got the model in front of me to check) that, similar to the Bachmann model, that the axle boxes don't line up with the wheel centre. I wonder if the bogie frames are set too low. I might be completely wrong on that- I will check tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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