gr.king Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 This show was over-priced and not very good. The cafe food was not good too. Make comparison with another recent show with a similar number of layouts and mostly "box shifter" and electronic novelties traders rather than valuable niche suppliers for actual model makers, in a bigger venue with far more publicity, for which the entry fee demanded was £9! I won't say which one I had in mind, as it might be rather a sensitive point for some. I very definitely didn't go to that one, both as a matter of principle and as result of being very busy. Consider £6 a good deal for this sort of thing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 This show was over-priced and not very good. The cafe food was not good too. Please explain why, it will help us to put on a better show next year. Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 88C Posted February 27, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2017 On behalf of the Elizabethan Railway Society can I say thanks for a most enjoyable weekend with Sutton-in-Ashfield Town. Book Law had a good weekend selling us copies of their new publication about the GNR Leen Valley Extension which contains many photos of "our" station. As always it was good to meet visitors who knew the station and especially Louisa Jones widow of Alan who was building the layout before he passed away. We'll done to all Lincoln club members for your efforts. Finally thanks for your comments ChrisF, I trust your journey was worth it. Brian. Edited for poor spelling! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Plenty of photographs of Leeds Central appeared to be taken. Is anybody able and willing to post some good ones on here please? I've never been thoroughly happy with any of the pictures of the layout that I've taken showing its usual BR 1960s guise. The best ones I ever managed showed it very atypically full of 1930s LNER stock which could never appear on the layout at a show, the locos all being incompatible with the Devil's version of electricity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Make comparison with another recent show with a similar number of layouts and mostly "box shifter" and electronic novelties traders rather than valuable niche suppliers for actual model makers, in a bigger venue with far more publicity, for which the entry fee demanded was £9! I won't say which one I had in mind, as it might be rather a sensitive point for some. I very definitely didn't go to that one, both as a matter of principle and as result of being very busy. Whilst not wishing to decry Lincoln's show I would guess you are talking about Doncaster where I did get chance to spend a reasonable amount with a collection of niche suppliers on a variety of products I needed for personal model-making (and not unable to purchase anything that was on my list) and none of those suppliers would have been at Lincoln. Trying to talk a show down doesn't help those 'niche suppliers' either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Had you made yourself known, either at Tredethy Wharf, to the person who previously (I gather) tried to put you in touch with me, or at Leeds Central to yours truly, you would have found that I had with me some of the items that I'm told you wanted a while ago. J6? Are any bells ringing? No, I'm sorry but bells aren't ringing. I did see Tredethy Wharf and very nice it is too, I got a lot of pleasure from looking at it as I did with Leeds Central. As for the 'items I wanted some time ago', presumably one of which is a LNER J6 0-6-0, I think wires have been crossed. Sorry. All the best and thanks for your concern. Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 On behalf of Lincoln & District Model Railway Club I would like to thank all the support we got from all the traders, layouts, demonstrators, societies and not forgetting you the general public who came to our event this year. Next year it will be at the same location the dates of which are 24th & 25th February. Once again many thanks all of you for your support. Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xm607 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Sunday morning was a joke. roundabout next to the showground was grid locked, got stuck in traffic there and had to take the long route home, missed the show. Steve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40F Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Sunday morning was a joke. roundabout next to the showground was grid locked, got stuck in traffic there and had to take the long route home, missed the show. Steve. Other people managed to get in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Whilst not wishing to decry Lincoln's show I would guess you are talking about Doncaster where I did get chance to spend a reasonable amount with a collection of niche suppliers on a variety of products I needed for personal model-making (and not unable to purchase anything that was on my list) and none of those suppliers would have been at Lincoln. Trying to talk a show down doesn't help those 'niche suppliers' either. I was emphasizing what GOOD value Lincoln show was for the entry fee. If we're being specific about Doncaster, although that's not the topic here (hence my efforts to avoid getting on to it) it had NONE of the niche suppliers that would have been of any real use to me, and while Lincoln may not have had them either the difference in admission charges is very significant. The selection of layouts at Lincoln certainly at least matched anything that Doncaster could boast too. Although it's not the key point, the grumble above about the food in the café might be a fair one. Limited selection of stodge and/or chips (same could be said of many shows though) with no hint of veg and seemingly nothing learned by the café operators after the jacket potatoes ran out at peak-time on the Saturday, as they did just the same on the Sunday too - in both cases just before I tried to order one with no time to hang around for twenty minutes to wait for the next batch. Some awkward customer might take the view that Saturday's experience ought to have resulted in more of them being made ready for the Sunday. But that is not the show organisers' fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 No, I'm sorry but bells aren't ringing. I did see Tredethy Wharf and very nice it is too, I got a lot of pleasure from looking at it as I did with Leeds Central. As for the 'items I wanted some time ago', presumably one of which is a LNER J6 0-6-0, I think wires have been crossed. Sorry. All the best and thanks for your concern. Regards Wires crossed??? http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/105990-building-br-ex-lner-from-kits-craftsman-c12/?p=2601649 Let me know if you actually want anything. I'm confused. I thought that 40C had perhaps been in touch with you, but I could be wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I'm not wishing to knock Lincoln at all either (witness earlier troll-tackle) and I'm not trying to say Doncaster was a better show (as that's subjective) but felt it fair to correct an assertion that Doncaster did not have useful suppliers in attendance, just 'box-shifters'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Wires crossed??? http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/105990-building-br-ex-lner-from-kits-craftsman-c12/?p=2601649 Let me know if you actually want anything. I'm confused. I thought that 40C had perhaps been in touch with you, but I could be wrong. Wires totally crossed, but now I understand. My post re the Graham King range wasn't a personal attempt to buy a J6, but more of a rhetorical question. This is because it was mentioned in the thread and I thought the range might have something of interest to me. The J6 as such is too early for my period. But then the Ivatt 0-6-0s are attractive engines. No 40C hasn't been in touch, never met or had any contact with the bloke. I did meet an RMwebber (or rather bumped into him) at the show and that caused additional confusion re your post above. Never mind, all's well that ends well or so I believe. Perhaps. Regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevex59 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Why at this early date is the show already booked for Newark ? Why is it not at Lincoln ? If it goes to Newark then it should be called the Newark Show. Once again Lincoln is forgotten Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauliebanger Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 If it goes to Newark then it should be called the Newark Show. On this basis, someone should tell the Warley Club that their show should be renamed the NEC show. Not necessary and not going to happen either. Kind regards, Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium t-b-g Posted February 27, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2017 I am sure that the club would be delighted to have the show in Lincoln. Please just come up with a good venue that is the right shape and size, the right price and available. Until then, Newark was a cracking good venue. Sure there was a traffic queue on Sunday morning. It took me a whole 10 minutes to get in. At Pontefract, recently, there was no queue but I ended up parking 10 minutes walk away. At least the 10 minutes at Lincoln was in a warm car. My heart sank when I saw the queue but it was moving quite well at around 10.00am. The big difference between Doncaster and Lincoln shows was not the number of specialist traders, as there were probably similar numbers at both shows. It was more the balance. At Lincoln, there seemed to be a good balance of layouts, general traders and specialist traders, plus some decent demos. At Doncaster, there were roughly the same number of layouts, specialist traders and demos but they were outnumbered, several times over, by other traders. I can understand the reason why, as the racecourse must cost a fortune to hire. But it does make the Doncaster show one where traders outnumber layouts 4 or 5 to 1, whereas at Lincoln, it was probably more 1 to 1. It doesn't make one right or one wrong, just that they are different. Some O gauge shows are almost pure trade and work really well. My personal view is that I prefer a more layout based show, as it is a bit more in the tradition of the shows I knew years ago. On that basis, Lincoln with its admission fee was very good value indeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERandBR Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Why at this early date is the show already booked for Newark ? Why is it not at Lincoln ? If it goes to Newark then it should be called the Newark Show. Once again Lincoln is forgotten It's not at Lincoln anymore because the Showground there mussed up the dates and double booked. The Venue at Newark was much better in any case. Sad to say but Lincoln Showground need to do up their exhibition hall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40F Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Why at this early date is the show already booked for Newark ? Why is it not at Lincoln ? If it goes to Newark then it should be called the Newark Show. Once again Lincoln is forgotten Does it REALLY matter. it clearly states LINCOLN & DISTRICT Model Railway show Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted February 28, 2017 Author Share Posted February 28, 2017 Why at this early date is the show already booked for Newark ? Why is it not at Lincoln ? If it goes to Newark then it should be called the Newark Show. Once again Lincoln is forgotten Steve 59, I am not going to go into any detail regarding the move from Lincoln to NewarK. I do hope you can help our club with finding a venue with the following. 1. A modern roomy hall on a ground floor with hard standing and plenty of doors for unloading / loading etc. 2. Ample free car parking. 3. Easily accessible from most major routes, ie A1, A46, A17, A617 etc. 4. At a reasonable cost. Please let me know by whichever means. Alan Exhibition manager L&DMRC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John K Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 I am still wary of steam locos with sound but a Coal Tank on Helmthwaite and Chapel Lane [7mm] sounded convincingly asthmatic. Hi Chris, I hate to be pedantic but that was my Watford Tank rather than a Coal Tank, but I agree with you that steam sounds are getting better and better. John K Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevex59 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Steve 59, I am not going to go into any detail regarding the move from Lincoln to NewarK. I do hope you can help our club with finding a venue with the following. 1. A modern roomy hall on a ground floor with hard standing and plenty of doors for unloading / loading etc. 2. Ample free car parking. 3. Easily accessible from most major routes, ie A1, A46, A17, A617 etc. 4. At a reasonable cost. Please let me know by whichever means. Alan Exhibition manager L&DMRC Hi Alan, As your Lincoln Exhibition is my nearest and having visited it last year, I found the Lincoln Showground and hall to be most acceptable for the show. Plenty of room around the exhibits, easy to get to and a good cup of tea. I can not comment on the costs involved for you to stage the show at the venues, as I don't know them. My main reason for preferring Lincoln is purely time. I do like to support local events but also have limited time to do so. Last year it was a quick visit to Lincoln, but I enjoyed it and picked up a few items. This year I could have done the same but I also had other things to do on the Saturday and Sunday I could not get at all. Now its not just me who had the same problem as another friend who wanted to go could not, again not much spare time. I have attended just about all the swapmeets ever held in the Lincoln area and have found that the Lincoln Showground is the best venue for such purposes, based on access, car parking and cost to the visitor, which of course the organiser has to pass on to the visitor. I once used to travel many miles to events, but now I think twice as the internet is a good source of cheap items. Thank you Alan for your reply Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Overall it was a good starting point in a new venue with great promise for future events. Positives were a good selection of traders, many not seen elsewhere and a varied selection of layouts covering most interests. Downside was a lack of signage pointing to where the entrance was, might be easier next year now I've been! Catering wasn't great it has to be said, I thought that standard of food had long since disappeared, very 1970s. Looking forward to next year already! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 I can sympathise and agree with the feeling that the show ought to be at a Lincoln area venue rather than out of the county, but as I gather that the organisers were denied the option of a return to the Lincs Showground, what are they supposed to do? It doesn't seem fair to claim, as stevex59 puts it, that Lincoln has been "Forgotten" by the show organisers. Although I get the impression that earlier confirmation of a booking for this year at the Lincs Showground might have made a difference, we must remember that there's a limit to how much money a club can afford to commit to confirmation of bookings far ahead of the current date. Only the big clubs with really well established shows will have the confidence and the financial means to book venues firmly and pay deposits several years in advance. Others will have to wait nervously for the financial results of each year's show before they can start to think in anything like "definite" terms about the following year. If some other organisation manages to nip in and book the venue first, big problems obviously arise. It might be disappointing and inconvenient for Lincoln enthusiasts and others (self included) to find the show now out-of-county, but at least there still is a show. Because of various other practical and financial problems North East Lincs, despite a more than sufficient population to create demand for a show, currently has no exhibition "of its own" even though the Cleethorpes show in May had been a reliable part of the annual routine for many years. It's just as well for us that we still have the option of a trip of twenty minutes or so out of town in October to the Caistor show, which is still managing to keep going in the face of limited suitability of the usual venue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERandBR Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Thing to remember is this is only the Lincoln club's third year in organising a large scale exhibition. Therefore they have quite rightly been taking it a year at a time, seeing how each year has gone before committing fully to the next. The reasons for moving to Newark were ultimately outside of the control of the Lincoln club. I'm sure that given the chance they would have liked to stay at Lincoln Showground. They certainly haven't 'forgotten' Lincoln. It's unfortunate that there are no other venues in Lincoln which offer the same as the Showground. Personally I think it's a good move, the venue offered at Newark is better then the one at Lincoln. It's a purpose built exhibition hall rather then an old farm shed and it shows in the lighting. The floor was also far better, it's actually flat. Also if your under your layout plugging in the electrics you don't get up looking like a smurf from the blue floor paint used at Lincoln Showground. In addition Newark is much better positioned with regards road and rail access. Both the A1 and ECML aren't very far away and that can only be a good thing for the future of the show. Sadly it's a common thing for Lincolnshire as a whole, you have to travel more then an hour to reach any sort of major dual carriageway. Overall, I hope this years show was a success for the Lincoln Club. I'm already looking forward to next year and attending with the Boston MRS Club Layout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40F Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Hi Alan, As your Lincoln Exhibition is my nearest and having visited it last year, I found the Lincoln Showground and hall to be most acceptable for the show. Plenty of room around the exhibits, easy to get to and a good cup of tea. I can not comment on the costs involved for you to stage the show at the venues, as I don't know them. My main reason for preferring Lincoln is purely time. I do like to support local events but also have limited time to do so. Last year it was a quick visit to Lincoln, but I enjoyed it and picked up a few items. This year I could have done the same but I also had other things to do on the Saturday and Sunday I could not get at all. Now its not just me who had the same problem as another friend who wanted to go could not, again not much spare time. I have attended just about all the swapmeets ever held in the Lincoln area and have found that the Lincoln Showground is the best venue for such purposes, based on access, car parking and cost to the visitor, which of course the organiser has to pass on to the visitor. I once used to travel many miles to events, but now I think twice as the internet is a good source of cheap items. Thank you Alan for your reply Yes but do you get as much enjoyment as ACTUALLY seeing the items before you buy or the " thrill " of spotting something you did not know that you needed until you saw It Steve 59, I am not going to go into any detail regarding the move from Lincoln to NewarK. I do hope you can help our club with finding a venue with the following. 1. A modern roomy hall on a ground floor with hard standing and plenty of doors for unloading / loading etc. 2. Ample free car parking. 3. Easily accessible from most major routes, ie A1, A46, A17, A617 etc. 4. At a reasonable cost. Please let me know by whichever means. Alan Exhibition manager L&DMRC There ain`t one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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