cravensdmufan Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Great to chat with the guys at Hornby. They were really keen to hear our views and suggestions today. Welcome back Hornby. May you go from strength to strength. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Francis deWeck Posted November 26, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2016 I was corrected on that in my chat on the Hornby stand.Not "new tooling" but a completely new model.Includes the two Ivatt built examples btw. OK, but is it possible to confirm the trailing bogie design. I do appreciate the difference between new tool and new model. My new tool concept is a hang-over from plastic kit modelling, when there is a further release of a model within a class, and the new model has been tooled from anew, hence new tool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 It wouldn't surprise me if this Duchess surpasses the Hattons King for fidelity & detail just to show Hornby can still pull out all the stops when it chooses to. I think there is a lot to be said for producing locos that folk would buy just for display......Folk who dont model in 4mm for instance... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Please edit the thread title - this HORNSBY business is becoming contagious !! Regards, John Isherwood. I did wonder why there was a sudden outbreak of enthusiasm for one of Canada's less well known musicians. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwich station Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Only five of the class carried pre-war conventional crimson lake livery and so while 'Duchess of Athol' was one of them, I am mystified as to what Hornby means by LMS 4-6-2 'Duchess of Atholl' Princess Coronation Class (Modified). Modified into or from what? It never carried streamlined casing or utility style front footplating and the only mods as far as I can detect were a ex.streamlined Tender in 1945, double chimney followed by smoke deflectors. As The Duchess was built with a single chimney and modified to a double with smoke deflectors in June 1940, I would assume it will be in post 1940 livery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 As The Duchess was built with a single chimney and modified to a double with smoke deflectors in June 1940, I would assume it will be in post 1940 livery. Smoke deflectors 1946. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwich station Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Smoke deflectors 1946. Sorry, yes you are correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted November 26, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2016 I was corrected on that in my chat on the Hornby stand.Not "new tooling" but a completely new model.Includes the two Ivatt built examples btw. How can it be a completely new model without new tooling? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted November 26, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2016 How can it be a completely new model without new tooling? That question is best addressed to Hornby and not me.I asked if it was new tooling.That was the response I got. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clearwater Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 How many of the class were built non-streamlined? I'd also wonder if the new tooling accommodates the semi (as the old one did) otherwise all BR blue and most early crest locos are off the table David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 IEP is a brave move by Hornby I reckon. New 87 is obviously going to please those who like OHLE stuff. Personally would have preferred more 3rd rail to follow from the BIL/HAL. But that it is a bold and positive move by them is enough for me really, was really needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted November 26, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2016 IEP is a no brainer. It's going to be the premier unit all over the network in several liveries. Its the HST of the day. It's an absolute must for Hornby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invicta Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 I did wonder why there was a sudden outbreak of enthusiasm for one of Canada's less well known musicians. That's just the way it is... The retooled Duchess is a pleasant surprise - especially with the Ivatt modifications for 46256/7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Budgie Posted November 27, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2016 IEP is a no brainer. It's going to be the premier unit all over the network in several liveries. Its the HST of the day. It's an absolute must for Hornby There is another unit that's all over a few franchises on the network in a lot of liveries, it will last for a couple of dozen years or more, and it would be nice to have that too. I am, of course, referring to the Electrostar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mookie Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Was I seeing things, or are they modelling the 'City of Birmingham'? I only saw a Ivatt modified 3D model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Well, I for once am extremely pleased by the Hornby plans after several years of increasing frustration with the company's announcements. The 87 is most welcome, as is the Duchess, and I can even welcome the Class 800 which won't be darkening my tracks but is an astonishing level of commitment by a company who was on the brink financially not long back, especially to produce a full 5 car set at north of £350. I do wonder if a cheaper "Railroad" version will be produced eventually for the trainset market, it's exactly the kind of train that should be targeted at junior modellers. It's probably the first time in five or so years I've actually been interested in a Hornby announcement and looking forward to their headline acts. I suspect it might not be the last announcement and I can't help thinking that sometime in 2017 another loco with a coathanger might be announced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 How many of the class were built non-streamlined? I'd also wonder if the new tooling accommodates the semi (as the old one did) otherwise all BR blue and most early crest locos are off the table David 46230-46234 and 46249-46257 (BR numbers) were built non-streamlined. By 'semi', I presume you mean 'sloped-top smokebox' - the whole class were 'Semis'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted November 27, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2016 WELL DONE Hornby, for keeping the momentum of new releases going in uncertain times. The only model announced at Warley that will tempt me is the ex-GWR Toad brake van but there are other items already in the pipeline for 2017 that fit my interests. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted November 27, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 27, 2016 That question is best addressed to Hornby and not me.I asked if it was new tooling.That was the response I got. Sorry, that wasn't directed at you. I didnt word it right lol. The press launch video stated it was completely new tooling so hopefully someone has got their wires crossed somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted November 27, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 27, 2016 Just having a look through Hattons website of the new Hornby items. The TTS decoders have the product codes of some of the older catalogues. Perhaps Hornby are running short of Prosuct codes now. Perhaps a discrepancy on Hattons part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vader Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Having a look at the new Hornby sets for next year and R3400 caught my eye. The Golden Arrow Set. If you look closely at the Pullman cars, you will see that the toilets have square windows. So possibly new Pullmans for next year as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor7598 Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Having a look at the new Hornby sets for next year and R3400 caught my eye. The Golden Arrow Set. If you look closely at the Pullman cars, you will see that the toilets have square windows. So possibly new Pullmans for next year as well. There must be some re-tooling for this set, look at Car ' MINERVA ' it has a guards door at one end. I don't recall this type in their current Pullman range. A set of proper ' 1951 ' Festival of Britain ' cars Wouldn't go amiss for the Golden Arrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Budgie Posted December 1, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 1, 2016 I wonder what they are doing for the other coaches in the last steam run. Given that they have an E5000 electric in their range, will they also do a first electric train pack? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Sorry, that wasn't directed at you. I didnt word it right lol. The press launch video stated it was completely new tooling so hopefully someone has got their wires crossed somewhere. It means that it's not just new tooling to replicate the existing model but a whole new design which will ,of course, be new tooling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted December 1, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 1, 2016 I saw Hornby Castle today - its not an engine, but a big building not far from Lancaster! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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