Oliver Rails Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 The new Hornby R3656 Virgin Trains Class 87 019 'Sir Winston Churchill' Bo-Bo Electric Locomotive has arrived! See more images and details here 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroborus Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Just been billed - £129. Thanks for honoring the pre-order price. Very much appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cravensdmufan Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 3 hours ago, Oliver Rails said: The new Hornby R3656 Virgin Trains Class 87 019 'Sir Winston Churchill' Bo-Bo Electric Locomotive has arrived! Looking very nice indeed - thanks for posting. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneofFife Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 Some photos of early painted samples for 87001/87101 on the Hornby shed website below all the brake vans. Looks nice but surprised its not a legit NRM York commission! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 This does look amazing! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejab95 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Here’s mine. Livery looks very smart! 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TravisM Posted September 28, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 28, 2019 Has there been a approximate date of when 87002 will arrive announced? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 4 hours ago, jools1959 said: Has there been a approximate date of when 87002 will arrive announced? Dec '19 - Jan '20 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markn Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 The wait for this was definitely worth it. The livery has been well applied and it looks great with a rake of mk3s and dvt. Shame about the pantograph but hey ho. I renumbered mine last night; first time I've done it and was a bit nervous on a brand new model, but I think that it looks ok. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbox321 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Markn said: The wait for this was definitely worth it. The livery has been well applied and it looks great with a rake of mk3s and dvt. Shame about the pantograph but hey ho. I renumbered mine last night; first time I've done it and was a bit nervous on a brand new model, but I think that it looks ok. Looking good. I take it the T cut works wonders on them. I wonder if there will be a TTS decoder in 2020 for the Class 87? Regards, C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogs 37116 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Looking at the excellent photos of the model on this thread.I noticed that 87019 has two cabside numbers on one side and one cabside number on the other side . This is correct when compared to prototype photos . Is this something unique to 87019 Sir Winston Churchil or were other Virgin class 87's so adorned ? mogs 37116 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markn Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Thanks! I used a little bit of white spirit in the end on a cotton bud. The name came off easy enough, but the cab numbers took ages to rub off. I also noticed that the model only had the three numbers. When researching yesterday it looks like 87027 and others did on all the photos I could see, so I am guessing it was fleetwide. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padishar Creel Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 8 hours ago, Markn said: The wait for this was definitely worth it. The livery has been well applied and it looks great with a rake of mk3s and dvt. Shame about the pantograph but hey ho. I renumbered mine last night; first time I've done it and was a bit nervous on a brand new model, but I think that it looks ok. Hallo, What is wrong with the pantograph? I had thought about buying the BR Blue version even though I'm an N-Gauger, but was really hoping for a Brecknell Willis pantograph. es grüßt pc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
43078shildoncountydurham Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Somebody do 87006 large logo as a limited edition please... Regards Craig 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGR Hooper! Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 19 hours ago, Markn said: The wait for this was definitely worth it. The livery has been well applied and it looks great with a rake of mk3s and dvt. Shame about the pantograph but hey ho. I renumbered mine last night; first time I've done it and was a bit nervous on a brand new model, but I think that it looks ok. A beauty! Excellet work on the re-numbering too! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 22 hours ago, dogbox321 said: Looking good. I take it the T cut works wonders on them. I wonder if there will be a TTS decoder in 2020 for the Class 87? Regards, C. A re-design would be required for this. The Inter-City one has a cavity for a decoder but it is very small. A Loksound V4 micro barely fit. A TTS would be too big. There is also a space for a "speaker" but it has to have a very flat cone & no driver. Such a device does not exist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VXDH92 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Just seen the new 87001 painted sample posted by Hattons on Instagram - they've put the correct TDM cables on the cab ends rather than the multiple working cables on the mock-up. Well done Hornby for noting! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted October 1, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, daveahudson said: Just seen the new 87001 painted sample posted by Hattons on Instagram - they've put the correct TDM cables on the cab ends rather than the multiple working cables on the mock-up. Well done Hornby for noting! I’m still a bit odd about this model, sure its as the loco appears today, static in a museum. However running a model in a condition which it has never worked, either in service or preserved, with differing names on either side just doesnt feel right. I feel the same about Bittern with 2 tenders in LNER blue.. it never worked like that preserved or in service, (it ran as 4492 with silver letters with 2 tenders, and in BR green as 60019 in preservation), though at least you could run it with 1 tender and get an accurate representation. i’d prefer 87001 to have both plates and let the user chose. Edited October 1, 2019 by adb968008 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VXDH92 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 17 hours ago, adb968008 said: I’m still a bit odd about this model, sure its as the loco appears today, static in a museum. However running a model in a condition which it has never worked, either in service or preserved, with differing names on either side just doesnt feel right. I feel the same about Bittern with 2 tenders in LNER blue.. it never worked like that preserved or in service, (it ran as 4492 with silver letters with 2 tenders, and in BR green as 60019 in preservation), though at least you could run it with 1 tender and get an accurate representation. i’d prefer 87001 to have both plates and let the user chose. Yes, I agree, although they would have to not print the names on the side of the loco either. I want one with STEPHENSON on both sides and no crests, as it was in 2003 when repainted in BR Blue... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanbasher Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 2 hours ago, daveahudson said: Yes, I agree, although they would have to not print the names on the side of the loco either. I want one with STEPHENSON on both sides and no crests, as it was in 2003 when repainted in BR Blue... I shall be purchasing 001 on release & agree with you Dave that I would have preferred Stephenson on both sides. However on purchase I will be chucking a few quid to Fox Transfers for etched Stephenson plates & will put them over the Royal Scot side.. Problem Solved. It's a bit of a headscratcher as to why Hornby have chosen to model 001 this way as the loco only ever ran dual named once & that was on the transit move from Wembley to the NRM, alas Fox Transfers will provide the solution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 The loco is obviously being modelled 'as preserved'. Given the near zero operational possibilities for the model in this condition, it is confusing is why they are not supplying it without nameplates printed (maybe with a guide for positioning), along with two sets of etched Stephenson and one set of etched Royal Scot plates. This would also save a couple of printing processes in the factory, but probably offset by plate costs. The model will also, it seems, have gold buffers, also only as preserved. This is easier to fix by the modeller and is a simple bit of black paint, but removing and repositioning printed nameplates is much harder. For me, I'm happy with the loco as preserved, as she will be a static model, but I'm now wondering if this will be a model that is headed for price reductions in the new year.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 56 minutes ago, G-BOAF said: The loco is obviously being modelled 'as preserved'. Given the near zero operational possibilities for the model in this condition, it is confusing is why they are not supplying it without nameplates printed (maybe with a guide for positioning), along with two sets of etched Stephenson and one set of etched Royal Scot plates. This would also save a couple of printing processes in the factory, but probably offset by plate costs. The model will also, it seems, have gold buffers, also only as preserved. This is easier to fix by the modeller and is a simple bit of black paint, but removing and repositioning printed nameplates is much harder. A model that you have to finish the livery on yourself would be an even worse seller. In this day and age if you run something that isn't straight out of the box then you're probably not the average customer. Hornby might be onto something with the two names as it gives a choice simply by turning the loco round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 From what I've seen on Flickr 87001 with high-level nameplates and additional plaque showing Stephenson in profile ran on some of the last scheduled Mk3 services through the West Midlands in May 2005. I must admit that will be perfect for me as I'm designing "Wednesford" as a roundy roundy fixed to the walls of the shed so I'll just turn the "Royal Scot" nameplates to the wall. All we need now if for Oxford to urinate or get off the Gozunda and release their Virgin Mk3 coaches. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneofFife Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) I think its a strange one too. IMHO I think they should have gone with 87 001 as it was circa 1983. blue, original fronts, orange cant rail stripes between cab roof ends, high speed pan. possibly too close to 87 035 though which could be easily altered. although I am not a fan of that white painted roof area on 035. think they were painted light grey after their first major works overhauls......think Hornby stuck with the "as built" white roof on 035 despite the name despite them backing down on the white battery charger box. I never spotted it before. I hope they don't go too left field with the next releases ie porterbrook purple, GBRf etc. Edited October 2, 2019 by ThaneofFife 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted October 2, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 2, 2019 6 hours ago, G-BOAF said: The model will also, it seems, have gold buffers, also only as preserved. Golden buffers ? Who thought of that, was a mickey take on a footballer with golden wotnots at the time ? dont think ive ever seen a loco with golden buffers before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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