RMweb Gold Robert Shrives Posted December 21, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2018 I think a DB red X3 pack thrice and a single ? to make a round number plus I guess a load of graffiti decals from what I see these days. Have to check pennies as a class 20 in gauge one on order... Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
159220 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Sorry I am not an N modeller, but patiently hope these shall be done in OO. I’ve recently noticed that some of the Whatley services operated by DB are not Mendip Rail but Tarmac. I see on the advised sample formations HOAs are marked as Hanson, when they are Tarmac. Explains why the formations lack Mendip Rail branded HOAs, and are mixed with JGA wagons. This contract continues beyond the move over to Freightliner. http://www.revolutiontrains.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/HOA-sample-consists.pdf Tarmac 6M20 Whatley - St Pancras 22-5-2008 6B35 Hayes - Moreton-on-Lugg 23-5-2012 6M20 Whatley - St Pancras 25-9-2015 I hope this information is of interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnshutts Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Hi Ben & Mike, Just a quick question before I place my order and thanks by the way for helping me to break the bank yet again... I've looked through the topic and can't see anything confirming the wagon dimensions. Sorry if I've missed it. Are the HOAs the same length as the Farish JGAs? The reason I ask is its the difference between a rake of 12 or 15. Also is there any chance of you including a de-branded version of the Cemex livery? I know a few people have asked for it so the demand would probably be there and the livery has been around quite a bit longer than the branded versions... Thanks again for doing this one - another real missing link. Regards John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted January 20, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 20, 2019 Hi John, The length over the buffers is 102mm. With the 4mm Freightliner TEAs we produced a blanking decal to allow the model to be depicted in the revised VTG livery, we may do something similar to allow the unbranded Cemex versions to be depicted. Cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 A Cemex blanking decal does sound a good option Ben. Just got my order in, not quite as big as I'd hoped, but still glad I've been saving! A good mix of EWS/DB and MRL should allow the chance to model a few trains I've worked with Jo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
97403_Ixion Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 Hi Ben, I'd agree too - Cemex blanking decals sound a good idea. I got an order in before the Early Bird deadline but might have added a Cemex set if blanking decals were to be given... of course, the order book is still open :) Cheers, Ixion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted June 2, 2019 Administrators Share Posted June 2, 2019 Photos from DEMU today. 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 HOA are looking ace guys, in addition to all the obvious, I particularly loving the rusty interior, a little thing but adds a touch of class. Jo 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy L S Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 I'm not a modern image modeller but to my admittedly untrained eye they look pretty darned good! Roy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoey Posted June 3, 2019 Share Posted June 3, 2019 Agreed with the above comments. Looking superb! Just need them in OO now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted June 3, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 3, 2019 Anyone up for weathering / graffiti ? The prototype 81 70 6957 000-7 a few weeks back 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted June 12, 2019 Administrators Share Posted June 12, 2019 HOA hoppers getting nearer… Revolution Trains has received painted samples of its forthcoming HOA stone hoppers in N. Once minor corrections have been made the models will be approved for production, with delivery expected before the end of the year. These wagons were introduced in 2006 by EWS, with many being repainted into the livery of customer CEMEX. Some have also received the bright red livery of DB Cargo. They have seen service on stone, sand and aggregate trains on a variety of flows to and from the Midlands, East Anglia, South East, North and Scotland. In 2016 two further batches were built for Ermewa/Tarmac and VTG/Mendip rail, and these are now in use on traffic from Tarmac quarries in the Midlands and the Mendip quarries in Somerset. Revolution is offering all five variants with differences in bodyside appearance and braking accurately depicted. (See attached image showing the difference in brake wheel types and positioning.) Revolution is offering: N-HOA-101 – EWS grey with 3-beasties loco. N-HOA-111 – Cemex grey/blue. N-HOA-121 – DB red N-HOA-131 – Ermewa/Tarmac grey N-HOA-141 – VTG Mendip Rail silver. The models are also available in ‘A’ and ‘B’ triple packs with different running numbers, enabling realistic rakes to be built up. The pre-order price is £30.50 for single wagons and £91.50 for triple packs. As we will soon close the order book we would urge customers to order now to avoid missing the deadline. The models will be available in due course from selected retailers but at a higher price. 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TomE Posted June 12, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 12, 2019 Well aren’t those little stunners! Superb! Tom. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted June 13, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 13, 2019 They look great, but some of the couplings look rather droopy and appear as though they'd catch on rails as the pass over pointwork. Steven B. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted June 13, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 13, 2019 Hi Steven, Yes - agreed. Because these samples are just to check the decoration they have been "thrown together" a little by hand. Our experience is that for full production the factory production line managers ensure that mechanical assembly is as it should be. cheers Ben A. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Hi Ben, Overall samples look rather good, can't wait to get my hands on my order! I know Phil's post mentions minor corrections, there's a couple of minor things I've noticed, but not sure if it's the photos resolution and exposure/ lighting causing the effect, if so, disregard these points! Firstly, is the horizontal yellow stripe along the top present on the livery samples? Certainly EWS, Cemex and MRL should have it. The DB red correctly doesn't have it Secondly, and as I said, this may be down to light and exposure, but is the MRL one a bit too metallic? The silver on the real things is quite a grey shade, definitely metallic though. Jo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted June 15, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15, 2019 Hi Jo, The yellow line is there. Silver/metallic shades are tricky. Light does not scale, plus even a very thin patina of dust on the prototype will rapidly dull the effect. I reckon a quick blast with the airbrush would tone it down. cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Totally agree Ben, very tricky! And as if to prove the point, that picture the silver looks spot on Happy days! Jo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 Recently the flow from Avonmouth to Theale for FM Conway (runs Monday only, as required) has gone from HTA to a mix of HOA and IIA. The set of 19 on Monday 1st July was all HOA/ IIA in a mix of EWS Construction and debranded Cemex, with a sole DB red wagon (320054) in the mix. Using blue and grey HOAs as a stand in for the IIA makes this train very modelable. 66030 was the loco, in EWS livery. The set does 6V97 Wembley - Westbury (MT), run round and forms 6C83 Westbury - Avonmouth (MT), 6A83 Avonmouth - Theale (LD) in the afternoon before working 6M83 (MT) back to Wembley after discharge. Outward via Swindon to Westbury, then via the Avon valley to Bristol. Return via the Avon valley then up the B&H to Theale Hope this goes some more excuses to order a few wagons! Jo 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan1 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Is the order book still open for these? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpendle Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Looks like you can still order on the website. Regards, John P 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisjh Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Just ordered a rake of 18 x DB Schenker HOA's do we know when thee will be released? Also are there loads to fit the hopper going to be made available? Many thanks Best, Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted July 31, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted July 31, 2019 Hi Chris, Production is expected to begin just after TINGS, so we are expecting the models to arrive sometime before Xmas. They won't have loads with them, but we are investigating the possibility of producing shaped blanks that drop in to create a "base" for a load of your choice. If we go down this route then we'll probably upload a video tutorial showing how to make them look more realistic. cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted July 31, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 31, 2019 Could the CAD and/or a Shapeways ready file for the shaped blank be put on your website to allow people to 3d print their own? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gedlee Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 I have created loads for a large range of wagons. I cut pieces of foam to fill half or two thirds of each wagon. It means very little added weight and the foam can be cut on the top surface to create irregular loads. Then I top up with coal, ballast or a choice of aggregate. cheers, Ged. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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