RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted November 9, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 9, 2018 Well, R3681 6241 'City of Edinburgh' in post-war LMS lined black has arrived in some shops, at about UKP184 vs rrp UKP204. I wonder how this will fare compared to the Hornby/Rails exclusive 46229 in lined black or for that matter the gloss Hornby BR/Locomotion red 46229? Can't find any photos of R3681 yet but these below do rather whet the appetite! Hopefully the lettering on the tender will be the right height. 46229_Duchess_Img_8488abc_r1200.jpg 46229_Duchess_Hamilton_Hornby_R3594_portrait10_1ab_r1200a.jpg I also wonder if and when we might see a green 'Princess Coronation', but that is just my idle curiosity. We’ve had a green one Rob. R3509TTS City Of Birmingham 46235 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 We’ve had a green one Rob. R3509TTS City Of Birmingham 46235 Good grief how could I have forgotten?! cheers 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted November 9, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 9, 2018 Lol you own it? You losing ya marbles there Rob haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikks Posted November 9, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 9, 2018 I reckon you have too many locos Rob!!, I think you should give some away, I'm only across the ditch in South Australia so it wouldn't cost you much in postage!! Ah well I tried. Rgds......Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawyermodels Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Well, R3681 6241 'City of Edinburgh' in post-war LMS lined black has arrived in some shops, at about UKP184 vs rrp UKP204. I wonder how this will fare compared to the Hornby/Rails exclusive 46229 in lined black or for that matter the gloss Hornby BR/Locomotion red 46229? Can't find any photos of R3681 yet but these below do rather whet the appetite! Hopefully the lettering on the tender will be the right height. 46229_Duchess_Img_8488abc_r1200.jpg 46229_Duchess_Hamilton_Hornby_R3594_portrait10_1ab_r1200a.jpg I also wonder if and when we might see a green 'Princess Coronation', but that is just my idle curiosity. Ours have just arrived in stock. Beautiful loco looks, in my opinion, very nice in LMS black. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted November 9, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 9, 2018 Why do Hornby persist in painting the injectors in that copper colour? I've never see a photo of the prototype with these polished and even they were its only the pipe work that is copper, the cast parts are brass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Looks like they've got the tender lettering at the right height this time. Hmm. Do I need another Duchess? Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Hmm. Do I need another Duchess? I need one which looks like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Why do Hornby persist in painting the injectors in that copper colour? I've never see a photo of the prototype with these polished and even they were its only the pipe work that is copper, the cast parts are brass. Polished copper and brass fittings is just their latest obsession. A few years back it was Electrication flashes which they plastered over everything. Before that it was shiny silver valve gear and rods. How ever good their latest models, they never really got past being a toy-maker at heart. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 (edited) Have they sorted out the chassis on this batch? Is the centre driving wheel still too 'low' on one side (i.e. this is what was causing one of the front drivers to appear lifted)? And has the flimsy tongue securing the front of the body to the chassis been beefed up? Edited November 9, 2018 by G-BOAF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Polished copper and brass fittings is just their latest obsession. A few years back it was Electrication flashes which they plastered over everything. Before that it was shiny silver valve gear and rods. How ever good their latest models, they never really got past being a toy-maker at heart. I can't think of a model that they have put them on incorrectly. Someone even complained about the late crest H Class having them and I even posted photographic evidence that the locomotive had them and the model was correct. That person still moaned. Just because people don't like Electrification Warning Flashes doesn't mean they should be released without them if they are meant to be there. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwich station Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Why do Hornby persist in painting the injectors in that copper colour? I've never see a photo of the prototype with these polished and even they were its only the pipe work that is copper, the cast parts are brass. When new, the brass and copper would be shinny-ish even if not highly polished. It wouldn't take long in service to become the same colour as the rest of the chassis. For people who don't like it, just paint it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted November 10, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 10, 2018 When new, the brass and copper would be shinny-ish even if not highly polished. It wouldn't take long in service to become the same colour as the rest of the chassis. For people who don't like it, just paint it. I know you can paint them and I do. My question is where did Hornby get the idea that the way they model them is realistic? Have a look at photo’s of ex Crewe works locos, the pipe work appears to have been painted black even then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 I know you can paint them and I do. My question is where did Hornby get the idea that the way they model them is realistic? Have a look at photo’s of ex Crewe works locos, the pipe work appears to have been painted black even then. Presumably they have concluded it appeals to a significant number of customers (who possibly don't know any better). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul 27 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 (edited) Lets hope they will produce the non streamlined versions. Edited November 14, 2018 by paul 27 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 I can't see why not as they've done City Of Nottingham before. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul 27 Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 I can't see why not as they've done City Of Nottingham before. Jason Yes I was only showing this as an example, I have this one and duchess of Montrose the latter being the one I would like to see retooled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) Ours have just arrived in stock. Beautiful loco looks, in my opinion, very nice in LMS black. DSC_1382.JPGDSC_1383.JPG I agree and have just bought one. I blame Hornby for producing outstanding models.... Haven't received my purchase yet but these superb machines look good in lined LMS black.... here is the Rails 46229. For reasons I cannot put my finger on Hornby make black plastic models look outstanding, moreso I would suggest than other 00 RTR makers, it might be the specification of the plastic, or the fine detail, but they certainly are masters of the craft. Edit, here below a couple of my edited versions.... will remove if they offend. cheers, and that fireman might have to shift a few tons of coal before the day is over! Edited November 13, 2018 by robmcg 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I can't see why not as they've done City Of Nottingham before. Jason I remember seeing a re-name of City of Nottingham on a traders' stand at Nottingham show a few years ago....In streamlined red! It was back again the following year. For those who don't see the irony, it was never streamlined & carried 1946 black when new. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocp Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I remember seeing a re-name of City of Nottingham on a traders' stand at Nottingham show a few years ago....In streamlined red! It was back again the following year. For those who don't see the irony, it was never streamlined & carried 1946 black when new. She was wartime black when new, no deflectors and streamlined tender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 She was wartime black when new, no deflectors and streamlined tender. Oops, is was only the last 5 which carried '46 from new wasn't it...although the last one was never LMS at all. The running plate shape & tenders for the later ones have a story of their own too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocp Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Oops, is was only the last 5 which carried '46 from new wasn't it...although the last one was never LMS at all. The running plate shape & tenders for the later ones have a story of their own too. Very true. I did speak with Hornby when the new tooling was annouced and he said that they had tooled up the tender for 6253-6255, which means we'll get them for the first ever with correct tender. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirwilliamfrs Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Oops, is was only the last 5 which carried '46 from new wasn't it...although the last one was never LMS at all. The running plate shape & tenders for the later ones have a story of their own too. For the record only 46257 carried a BR number from new. It was photographed in Crewe Works before entering service as M6257 but this had been changed when it entered service. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 For those who might like an LMS lined black version, here are the pics of the new release 6241 from a well known retailer with a touch of improvement, extra track and vignette, no changes to the model. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted November 14, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 14, 2018 Very true. I did speak with Hornby when the new tooling was annouced and he said that they had tooled up the tender for 6253-6255, which means we'll get them for the first ever with correct tender. Always providing that Hornby do not repeat the blunder it made with the tender of Bulleid 34050,the replacement for which is yet to appear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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