How about a Dictator Loco Class? Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) Very nice. Pigs would not be loaded in serried ranks, just dropped in via magnet crane in a low jumbled heap. Some would get broken in the process as pig iron is relatively brittle. As the fate of all pig iron is to be re-melted for subsequent use breakages are not an issue. In terms of traffic origin. The ‘dog bone’ pigs represent machine cast pigs, most of the larger integrated steelworks had pig casting machines by the 1950s. The straight pigs are of the type cast in traditional sand pig beds, more likely to be found at the smaller, purely iron producing plants. They would be in transit to either steel making plants or iron foundries. . The pictures show how you will receive them once posted. Put as pictured they should be cut out with a scalpel. They must not be placed in as one huge neatly ordered interconnected piece as you rightly point out. We will improve them further still. We have made some very pleasing steps forward on the price due to some developments! They won't cost circa £20 anymore thankfully. We want them to look as near total perfection as possible though. Hopefully far far better than any rival version. Thank you all for your input. Rob Edited September 21, 2018 by How about a Dictator Loco Class? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted September 6, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 6, 2018 They didn't just carry steel products, but a wide variety of things: ones that come to mind are stone from the Peak District to build the Thames Barrier, trailers and Land-Rovers for the MoD, agricultural machinery, semi-finished timber. When carrying steel, they'd sometimes work as block trains but, more often, they'd be found as part of a mixed freight, perhaps taking steel plate to a small shipyard. Whitby received such wagons into the 1970s, and Barnstaple (for Appledore) into the 1980s. Were these seen on the west of England mainline conveying goods to Plymouth and Cornwall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Were these seen on the west of England mainline conveying goods to Plymouth and Cornwall. They certainly worked to the Holman/Compair works near Camborne with pig-iron; there are photos in this thread. Apart from that, I can imagine them being used to deliver steel to the ship-repairers at Falmouth, or to Devonport. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted September 7, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 7, 2018 The lads at TMC have been busy making new loads for the plate wagons. Steel sheets, plates, slabs, tubes, H section. TMC can supply trestles too for carrying larger sheet loads. Have you more info on these as I can't see them on their website. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sails Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 IMG_8493.JPGIMG_8496.JPGIMG_8497.JPGIMG_8498.JPGIMG_8500.JPGIMG_8502.JPGIMG_8504.JPG (Deluxe super smooth dog bone pictured last) The lads at TMC have been busy making new loads for the plate wagons. Steel sheets, plates, slabs, tubes, H section. Now I'm just about ready to introduce hopefully a few more loads. Iron Pigs, Dog Bone style Iron Pigs in textured finish or smooth finish with deluxe rust effect. A few more shades will be tried such as grey, beige, grey and yellowy rust. And runs of pigs with mixed shades. The 'Dog Bone' style Pigs will probably cost £18 to £22ish per wagon I'm guessing and that should be around 180 pigs. But you can put more or less in. TMC can supply trestles too for carrying larger sheet loads. BUT THIS IS NOT 100% ACCURATE TECHNICALLY, as the wagons need slight modifications if you want to be fussy. Some of the other loads available are quite a bit cheaper for those who have to watch the ££'s, but still really look the part! We will make lower amounts of the most challenging to produce loads. Any chance of getting the ingots already weathered from either shapeways or TMC? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
How about a Dictator Loco Class? Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Any chance of getting the ingots already weathered from either shapeways or TMC? If you post a picture and describe exactly what you mean we can probably do it yes. Do you actually mean 'Dog bone style iron pigs' or ingots? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sails Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) Missed replying here, what I was asking for was "Dog Bone style Iron Pigs in smooth finish with deluxe rust effect." So they come ready weathered? Mark Just seen them available on TMC site so sorted. Edited October 8, 2018 by Sails Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted October 8, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 8, 2018 Anyone weathered any of their versions yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted November 2, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 2, 2018 I've made a start on weathering the LMS version. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pteremy Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Very neat - are you going to share your technique? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted November 2, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 2, 2018 Very neat - are you going to share your technique? I use Lifecolor weathered wood acrylics with two coats of basecoat [713] and then highlights/dry brush with [714] warm wood base. I masked the sides as they are steel and will be treated differently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted November 3, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 3, 2018 A few more. It always looks slightly different under the layouts lighting. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted November 5, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 5, 2018 Bearing in mind these wagons have cast number plates on the solebar, any ideas on how to renumber one easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted November 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 13, 2018 Can anyone confirm that this version is suitable for a big four era layout please. The E number [Eastern] is confusing me to think it's a BR period wagon. https://www.themodelcentre.com/38-855Z/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Can anyone confirm that this version is suitable for a big four era layout please. The E number [Eastern] is confusing me to think it's a BR period wagon. https://www.themodelcentre.com/38-855Z/ The E prefix is for former LNER wagons! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
26power Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Pre nationalisation double bolsters: LMS: https://www.themodelcentre.com/38-828Z/ LNER: https://www.themodelcentre.com/38-829Z/ I though they had also done Plate wagons in pre nationalisation liveries, but they don't seem to be listed? Rather oddly their own brand wagons are listed under Bachmann, rather than TMC, or similar. Easiest way to find them seems to be to look under limited editions, here: https://www.themodelcentre.com/limited-editions-OO/?search_query=&page=2&limit=57&sort=alphaasc&category=1320&is_category_page=1 Can anyone confirm that this version is suitable for a big four era layout please. The E number [Eastern] is confusing me to think it's a BR period wagon. https://www.themodelcentre.com/38-855Z/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 One of the members brought a pack of these along to the club tonight and they are a scale 9ft wide. Is this right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 8ft 10.5in overall Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 8ft 10.5in overall Paul Thanks for that, they're pretty wide then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted November 15, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 15, 2018 (edited) Bearing in mind these wagons have cast number plates on the solebar, any ideas on how to renumber one easily. As is usual with wagons made by Bachmann, the "plate" is just printed and doesn't stand proud of the solebar. TMC's ad in the December Railway Modeller shows Double Bolster wagons in LMS and LNER liveries but all the Plate wagons are in BR (so far?). John Edited November 15, 2018 by Dunsignalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted November 15, 2018 Author Share Posted November 15, 2018 (edited) As is usual with wagons made by Bachmann, the "plate" is just printed and doesn't stand proud of the solebar. TMC's ad in the December Railway Modeller shows Double Bolster wagons in LMS and LNER liveries but all the Plate wagons are in BR (so far?). John Hopefully in the near future we'll see the Plate wagons in LNER and LMS liveries Edited November 15, 2018 by Garethp8873 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted December 1, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 1, 2018 Hopefully in the near future we'll see the Plate wagons in LNER and LMS liveries A good chance as I was told by TMC at Warley this will be an option as they will be doing another run of these. He also said it's possible to remove the bolsters as sometimes they haven't been fixed securely. Obviously doing this you would need to research and change the running number. I'm currently making some steel loads for mine using I section and Slater's fine chain. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garethp8873 Posted December 1, 2018 Author Share Posted December 1, 2018 A good chance as I was told by TMC at Warley this will be an option as they will be doing another run of these. He also said it's possible to remove the bolsters as sometimes they haven't been fixed securely. Obviously doing this you would need to research and change the running number. I'm currently making some steel loads for mine using I section and Slater's fine chain. I was told the same thing when I purchased some of their wagon loads for mine. Tbh I am not desperate for them as I have other wagons that have to take priority at the moment in time. Just pleasing to know that they are planning to do more of these and hopefully we'll see the Plate wagon in LMS/LNER liveries in their next lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 A good chance as I was told by TMC at Warley this will be an option as they will be doing another run of these. He also said it's possible to remove the bolsters as sometimes they haven't been fixed securely. Obviously doing this you would need to research and change the running number. I'm currently making some steel loads for mine using I section and Slater's fine chain. But the bolsters had a pocket on the solebar which requires removal Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted December 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 27, 2018 When these were used loaded ,what kind of wagon was used as a barrier wagon by the loco and could an empty bolster wagon be used. A link to a prototype photo would be most welcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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