RMweb Gold BartonAbbey Posted March 17, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 17, 2010 Good evening All, Having been a lurker for quite a while this is my first post! Before getting anywhere near a layout I have been assembling some stock including 3 Parkside 16T Mineral Wagons with a view to modelling the green diesel or possibly late steam era. The kits have gone together quite well considering it's several decades since I last made one and I've now reached the painting stage. I've primed with Halfords grey aerosol and I was quite pleased with the body colour that gave me. However I pressed on and used a coat of Railmatch 309 "Later Freight Grey" as recommended on the Parkside website for green diesel era unfitted wagons. They now look far too light a shade of grey! a) Have I used the wrong paint? If so, any suggestions for the right colour please? b) Is my memory at fault and Minerals really were that light a shade in the mid 60's under all the rust and dust? In which case I'll just have to get busy with the black and rust weathering! Thanks in anticipation of your comments. Barton Abbey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Good evening All, Having been a lurker for quite a while this is my first post! Before getting anywhere near a layout I have been assembling some stock including 3 Parkside 16T Mineral Wagons with a view to modelling the green diesel or possibly late steam era. The kits have gone together quite well considering it's several decades since I last made one and I've now reached the painting stage. I've primed with Halfords grey aerosol and I was quite pleased with the body colour that gave me. However I pressed on and used a coat of Railmatch 309 "Later Freight Grey" as recommended on the Parkside website for green diesel era unfitted wagons. They now look far too light a shade of grey! a) Have I used the wrong paint? If so, any suggestions for the right colour please? B) Is my memory at fault and Minerals really were that light a shade in the mid 60's under all the rust and dust? In which case I'll just have to get busy with the black and rust weathering! Thanks in anticipation of your comments. Barton Abbey They were a light grey; much lighter than GWR grey, for example. My recollection of the older BR grey was that it had a slightly 'bluer' tinge to it. http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/p14663340.html is in the original BR grey, I think http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/p14663341.html is the later, post 1964 shade Have a look at some of the photos on this site for inspiration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted March 17, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 17, 2010 I quite like a bit of Humbrol 64 (matt light grey) for the later shade; as on B119610 in my Blog entry here: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php/blog/24/entry-2786-16t-minerals/ For everything else I just use spray grey primer and weathering. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stuartp Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Humbrol 64 or Railmatch 309 here too, well weathered and rusted. The ones in my mid 60s reference photos have always seemed light to me, I don't remember them first hand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 It depends to some extent on the use of your wagon and the prototype lighting conditions that you want to portray. A grotty single wagon left in a siding for weeks under an overcast sky will appear much darker than a wagon in a main line coal train on a sunny day. They were, when newly painted a very light shade. Bernard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennine MC Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 This is probably the best thread anywhere regarding weathering of 16t'ers etc http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13435&hilit=curate%27s With the well known maestro of said techniques, Mr Pennine! Ta Although it does concentrate on later vehicles in Rail Grey, which is probably what the OP's Railmatch reference relates to. Earlier greys did vary but generally, I've now settled on Revell 76 as the most versatile basis, finding most of the Humbrol greys slightly too dark. It's also a fair match for unpainted Airfix plastic, if running in the same train. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BartonAbbey Posted March 22, 2010 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 22, 2010 Thanks for your input everyone. One things becomes very clear - there is not a "right answer" is there? Having looked at various sources I think I'm going to stick with the Railmatch "Later Freight Grey" and practice my weathering - got to start somewhere! Thanks, BartonAbbey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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