BernardTPM Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Rail level to top of cab is 38mm. Really only half the story. The cab floor is somewhere above rail level and below 38mm. Where the floor comes will determine how much room there would be in the cab. Also bear in mind n.g. loco cabs can be quite snug. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted December 16, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 16, 2016 (edited) The door opening (if there was a door) is 25mm high, a scale 6'3". Quite generous for a small NG loco. Edited December 16, 2016 by Nile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR-Green Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 The door opening (if there was a door) is 25mm high, a scale 6'3". Quite generous for a small NG loco. well the had to Fit the motor in didn't they Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted December 17, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 17, 2016 There's about a 5mm gap between the flywheel and roof, so plenty of room. The top of the flywheel is just below the windows, so it can't be seen when looking through the cab from front or rear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR-Green Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 With the recent release of the Minitrains Bagnal loco (probably the first mass produced 009 model of a British loco) there is now enough RTR stock available to run a British 009 model railway. With plenty of 009 track available from Peco it couldn't be easier now to model a narrow gauge railway in a small space. Here are some examples from last night's test running at Willesden Junction. My Bagnal with some Peco Glyn Valley coaches and brake van. 009_1.JPG Another Bagnal with Peco L&B wagons and Glyn Valley brake van. 009_2.JPG Just saw one in the shop it seems lacking in detail for a £120 locomotive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cnw6847 Posted December 17, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 17, 2016 Just saw one in the shop it seems lacking in detail for a £120 locomotive You seem to not like the loco, maybe better buying something else. There are lots of us who do like them. People have been adding a few details to their individual taste. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Just saw one in the shop it seems lacking in detail for a £120 locomotive Perhaps if it sold at the same levels as a mass produced OO scale RTR loco the price might be cheaper. But for a low production run by a small manufacturer the price is what would be expected. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR-Green Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 You seem to not like the loco, maybe better buying something else. There are lots of us who do like them. People have been adding a few details to their individual taste. It's not that I don't like it, when you comper it to over RTR in the price range it's not that detailed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted December 21, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2016 That's the nature of the beast. The prototype was a fairly simple machine. I've only added a few details to mine (see my RTR workbench). I suspect Minitrains have kept details to a minimum to keep costs (and financial risk) down . This is a bit of a punt for them. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Nile Posted January 27, 2017 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 27, 2017 Some more new RTR arrived today, two packs of Peco slate wagons. A closer view of the two variants, with and without a brake. The removable load is held in the wagon by some tiny clips that can just be seen along the bottom edge. The wagons have NEM355 sockets and come fitted with short couplings for use within a fixed rake. Bemo type couplings are also supplied for use on the end wagons. As usual with Peco the wheels are plastic. It's possible to fit metal Farish wheels, but the pin-points need to be shortened slightly for them to turn freely. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobby Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) The coupling between them is a good idea, that Bemo style coupler looks a bit OTT... I think that brake handle looks ripe for cutting off and replacing with a separate item, it looks way to thick as it stands, rather like the old Triang plastic handrails! Edited January 29, 2017 by Hobby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chameleon Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 The wheels are really the only let down on the peco 009 stock. I feel a bit put out to have to replace the wheels on a small 4 wheel coach that costs £24. Otherwise, they are very nice wee models. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Just saw one in the shop it seems lacking in detail for a £120 locomotive You have to realise that the pricing for models is based on amongst other factors, the perceived Volume potential sales ( ie how many may be sold) and the complexity of assembly (ie how fiddly the parts are to assemble) Whilst it may seem to some readers that a small narrow Gauge loco should be far less expensive than say a 00 0-6-0T loco it is simply not the case. A recent conversation with a retailer regarding numbers he sells in various scales was quite interesting particularly when he told me that 00 sales contribute to almost 90% of his sales. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiltedsignaller Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 The new Peco slate waggons are a joy to behold. I was delighted to see that the removable loads are hollow. With each filled with Blu Tack, the weight increases considerably, and creates a very promising gravity train. Now to source some appropriate brakesmen... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) The new Peco slate waggons are a joy to behold. I was delighted to see that the removable loads are hollow. With each filled with Blu Tack, the weight increases considerably, and creates a very promising gravity train. Now to source some appropriate brakesmen... Thanks re the 'Hollow' I was also wondering re the overall weight. The PECO 00-9 range does tend to be rather on the light side! When considering your gravity train, don't forget to include the overtrack 'gantry' from which the warning ropes were suspended to alert the brakesmen of an approaching, low obstacle ( Bridge, tunnel etc!) Edited January 29, 2017 by Stevelewis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Forgot to add to the previous re gravity train, you will need a Horse Dandy as well ( that's not the horses name, its the wagon in which the horses which had hauled the empties uphill, rode back down again!) There was a layout doing the exhibitions in the 90s which had a Gravity train , although in that case it was actually powered by a motorised wagon, it was good though! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted January 30, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 30, 2017 Ah but if you model a modern gravity train you just need a loco to pull it uphill and no dandy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 The horses were replaced in 1863! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 The horses were replaced in 1863! What surprised me yesterday, when I had a look at my Copies of the History of the Ffestiniog ( JIC Boyd) whose pages I had not turned for several years! That Gravity trains were continued to run until just before WW2 started! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 What surprised me yesterday, when I had a look at my Copies of the History of the Ffestiniog ( JIC Boyd) whose pages I had not turned for several years! That Gravity trains were continued to run until just before WW2 started! Well - why wouldn't you? Gravity is free - it was when they built the Festiniog, and it is today !! It still seemed to work, too, when I last saw a demonstration gravity train a couple of years ago. Regards, John Isherwood Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Immediately after the introduction of steam locomotives even the passenger trains used gravity downhill, though not for long. The steam locos were able to pull more empties uphill than the horses, saving having to double track the line throughout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold mcowgill Posted January 31, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 31, 2017 Gravity slate trains on the FR continued until passenger trains were suspended in WW2. Up until that point the empties went back up on the rear of passenger trains and the loaded slates then worked back under gravity. Once the passenger trains were suspended the empties had to be hauled up on their own so to avoid a wasted light engine run back down they were hauled both ways. Martin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Any one looking for retailers that have stock of the Peco slate wagons? Arcadiarail Shaw Nr Oldham has good stocks I just bought some, tel for speedy mail order service 01706 882900 ( Tim is the man to speak to!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelewis Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 I received a couple of packs of the Peco Slate wagons today from Arcadia Shaw ( fast delivery excellent price) They are very nice models spectacularly tiny, I feel that perhaps a few more will be needed as 6 just look a little lost! ( have to save up though) I have 'weighed' up the potential of increasing their weight, One wagon empty ( slate load removed) weighs just 1 Gram, adding the slate load increases the weight to just about 2 grams, I tried stuffing the interior of the slate load with Blu- Tak, which increased the weight to 4 grams, I am unsure if this is sufficient or not, but I will try a little metal bashing when I can get the time and try to increase weight further with some lead instead of Blu Tak I must add that I have not tried any actual loco hauled running with these yet, but would say that when I tried propelling the 6 along the track by hand they did seem to run well 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted February 3, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 3, 2017 Immediately after the introduction of steam locomotives even the passenger trains used gravity downhill, though not for long. The steam locos were able to pull more empties uphill than the horses, saving having to double track the line throughout. Do you know if it was it the same horse pulling the train up the entire line, or did they change over part way to give the beast a rest? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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