bike2steam Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Well another Hornby Stanier 2-6-4T has just split another gear on the 'X9181 gear-set'. Just rang up Peters Spares' for some replacements, but he's been out of stock for about 6 months, and having trouble getting replacement parts stock. What are Hornby up to, they seem to be getting it all wrong ???? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-BOAF Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Try ACModelSpares - they might have stock (no connection) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pint of Adnams Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 What are Hornby up to, they seem to be getting it all wrong ???? Obviously Hornby might be getting some things wrong - we know about these because the company management has reported on them - but one should be very cautious about making such a broad allegation on a public forum... I do concur that Hornby service organisation and spares availability is one logistical area that would benefit from management attention, perhaps taking cognisance of Bachmann's recent UK announcement concerning their future intentions: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/108794-Bachmann-2016-announcements/page-43&do=findComment&comment=2433597 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 Obviously Hornby might be getting some things wrong - we know about these because the company management has reported on them - but one should be very cautious about making such a broad allegation on a public forum... I do concur that Hornby service organisation and spares availability is one logistical area that would benefit from management attention, perhaps taking cognisance of Bachmann's recent UK announcement concerning their future intentions: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/108794-Bachmann-2016-announcements/page-43&do=findComment&comment=2433597 Yep, that's why I said 'seem', but thanks for agreeing with me . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee74clarke Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Yep, that's why I said 'seem', but thanks for agreeing with me . Not sure if it would help, but on the well known internet auction site, there's a chassis in bits, might be worth a look? If you put 'stanier tank motorized chassis' into search, it will come up. 4 days left to bid. I am not selling it, just to clarify. Regards Lee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pint of Adnams Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Yep, that's why I said 'seem', but thanks for agreeing with me . I didn't agree with 'all', whether you say 'seem' or not in front of it, just that part relating to spares and service... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted December 22, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) I think are parts for most Hornby models are not as common as they used to be. The reasons got to be that they are using all their time securing whole locomotives or models. Suspect factories they use are less keen on supplying spares. I had a Merchant Navy that had stripped a gear. Eventually I had to resort to sourcing a defective model and using 2 models to make one good one. Hornby just didn't have the spares and didn't know when or if the y would be available again Edited December 22, 2016 by Legend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted December 22, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) The other day I had a recent issue fowler 4p in bits next to a Stanier 4MT.... Looking at the two chassis' side by side ..I couldn't see the difference ? Edited December 22, 2016 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike2steam Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) The other day I had a recent issue fowler 4p in bits next to a Stanier 4MT.... Looking at the two chassis' side by side ..I couldn't see the difference ? As long as you mean the Fowler 4P 2-6-4T, not 4-4-0, then yes - it was basically a redesigned body on the same chassis, with minor detail differences. Edited December 22, 2016 by bike2steam 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 (edited) Mine failed last week too. The first time it ever stalled, I gave t a gentle shove & the gear broke. Is this a common failing? If so, is it possible to persuade someone to make brass replacements? I searched ebay & bought one from a store called expressly-trains. Ordered on Dec 22nd & it arrived before Christmas. I was more than happy with that. Edited December 26, 2016 by Pete the Elaner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted December 26, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 26, 2016 Mine failed last week too. The first time it ever stalled, I gave t a gentle shove & the gear broke. Is this a common failing? If so, is it possible to persuade someone to make brass replacements? I searched ebay & bought one from a store called expressly-trains. Ordered on Dec 22nd & it arrived before Christmas. I was more than happy with that. An all too common fault unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted December 7, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 7, 2018 Sorry to drag this thread up again but it just happen to me on a Stanier 4MT. I have looked on the internet and checked out all the spares suppliers that the Google search threw up. OUT OF STOCK....all of them. I am awaiting Hornby's reply. Anyone got an old X04 motored Flower that they no longer need, condition not a problem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooley_boy Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 You can use the Hornby X6346 Gear set. Exact same gear set but for the Hornby A1 Class loco so is a different number. These are still in stock. I had a broken gear in my Stanier 4mt Tank and just fitted the X6346 gear set in with no issues. Perfect match. My theory is that, like any manufacture, they would want to reduce the amount of parts needed to make for each loco. If they have a gear set they know is tried and tested then there is no reason why they wouldn't use that set in as many locomotives as possible to keep their cost down. So far the theory stands true. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted August 19, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, cooley_boy said: You can use the Hornby X6346 Gear set. Exact same gear set but for the Hornby A1 Class loco so is a different number. These are still in stock. I had a broken gear in my Stanier 4mt Tank and just fitted the X6346 gear set in with no issues. Perfect match. My theory is that, like any manufacture, they would want to reduce the amount of parts needed to make for each loco. If they have a gear set they know is tried and tested then there is no reason why they wouldn't use that set in as many locomotives as possible to keep their cost down. So far the theory stands true. Thanks Rand, When I contacted Hornby they said they wouldn't have any more unless they done another run of 2-6-4Ts. I will order one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amand Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Also try X8849, a generic part that seems to fit most large boilered locos, though there will be exceptions! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerzilla Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 The West Country/BoB motion (I can't really call it valve gear) is also unavailable, probably because these locos have a tendency to bend coupling rods and all the spares have been used up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom3624 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Gears on MN - same as WC/BoB? - seems identical to the 'recent' - as in not retooled but during last 15 years Coronations - that's how I replaced the gears on a MN I purchased recently, which failed. Motor mounts are identical as well - as is motor. Al. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Elaner Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 On 19/08/2019 at 12:56, Clive Mortimore said: Thanks Rand, When I contacted Hornby they said they wouldn't have any more unless they done another run of 2-6-4Ts. I will order one. Why can't they make these gears from brass? They wouldn't split then. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GandalfUK449 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 lendonsmodelshop (co) (uk) don't have the gearset (X9181) but they do have some wheelsets (X9219) or put a 'W' at the end for wheathered. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Phil Parker Posted September 9, 2020 Administrators Share Posted September 9, 2020 On 25/08/2019 at 01:25, Pete the Elaner said: Why can't they make these gears from brass? They wouldn't split then. Brass costs more than plastic and modellers are tightwads. 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lu4472ke Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 Yesterday, I found out that my 4P had cracked the gear that has the part number X9181. I remember reading it is the same as the one for the Q1. I have found a gear with the part number X9257, for the Q1. Did Hornby change the part number, and will it fit my 4P? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Spare Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 An earlier post in this thread stated the X6346 Tornado gears pack was a suitable substitute for X9181 (the Stanier and Fowler tanks share the same chassis) and that pack is in stock at Lendons of Cardiff. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted February 19, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 19, 2021 (edited) On 09/09/2020 at 09:47, Phil Parker said: Brass costs more than plastic and modellers are tightwads. Not this particular example, but I've replaced around a dozen sets of the junk plastic ones we currently get saddled with in Bulleid Pacifics (x8849) and have accumulated a similar number of spares against future need. I'll be first in the queue if anybody decides to produce replacements in metal. John Edited February 19, 2021 by Dunsignalling 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted February 19, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dunsignalling said: I've replaced around a dozen sets of the junk plastic ones we currently get saddled with, and have accumulated a similar number of spares against future need. I'll be first in the queue if anybody decides to produce replacements in metal. John Though i guess plastic makes for quieter running too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted February 19, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 19, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, MikeParkin65 said: Though i guess plastic makes for quieter running too Judging from when plastic replaced brass with x04 motors many years ago, not significantly. John Edited February 19, 2021 by Dunsignalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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