Caledonian Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Some of the main line companies had a few Industrial locos on their books. Either as a result of a takeover or because they needed something specialised and not worth creating an in house special. This Peckett was originally owned by Ayr Harbour Board but when the G&SWR took over the company when it went bust they also got the loco. When it came to Sou'West it was in a very rundown and decrepit state but it was overhauled and given a top class finish complete with polished Chimney cap and dome cover and they used it as works pug at Kilmarnock replacing a Barclay which also had a highly ornate finish. However the LMS painted it black, numbered it 16403 and sent it to Perth where it worked the Gleneagles Hotel branch for a while.small.jpg My 7mm scale model was built from Pete Stampers Agenoria kit but the current RTR offerings could be used. Ian Very tasty, if I ever get my hands on a Dodo the "name plate" is coming straight off to be replaced by the letters G&SWR, the lum is getting de-cluttered and I can live with the different handrail arrangement on the cab 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norton961 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Given that my interests are the Railways of East Shropshire and its industrial lines particularly the Lillishall Co the fact that Hornby are to do a plain black version of the W4 Peckett as a Lillishall one I ought to post a photo of the said locomotive! The first photo was taken in 1957 just before the Lillishall closed their railway system. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian@stenochs Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Very tasty, if I ever get my hands on a Dodo the "name plate" is coming straight off to be replaced by the letters G&SWR, the lum is getting de-cluttered and I can live with the different handrail arrangement on the cab When the loco was in Ayr Harbour ownership it was painted in the standard Peckett green similar to Dodo. The late D L Smith, Locomotive historian of the G&SWR, described the condition of the engine when it took it over as deplorable with the paint faded to a sickly shade! The loco had worked all it's days in a seaside location and had only basic maintenance so it needed a lot of attention. I have never found out why the Sou' West gave it the full attention for a simple pug when there was a backlog of maintenance of front line locomotives. Ian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 When the loco was in Ayr Harbour ownership it was painted in the standard Peckett green similar to Dodo. The late D L Smith, Locomotive historian of the G&SWR, described the condition of the engine when it took it over as deplorable with the paint faded to a sickly shade! The loco had worked all it's days in a seaside location and had only basic maintenance so it needed a lot of attention. I have never found out why the Sou' West gave it the full attention for a simple pug when there was a backlog of maintenance of front line locomotives. Ian. The simplest answer is that they probably took a liking to it. I can remember once hearing a story of some cleaners being set to sorting out a locomotive round the back of a shed somewhere. No further and better particulars were given, just "its out the back" or words to that effect. What they found, to their delight, was one of Mr Aspinall's little pugs which they attacked with great zeal and spent all day not just cleaning it but polishing it to within an inch of its life - and then of course discovered that what they should have been cleaning was a particularly filthy Black 5 on a different road. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 When the loco was in Ayr Harbour ownership it was painted in the standard Peckett green similar to Dodo. The late D L Smith, Locomotive historian of the G&SWR, described the condition of the engine when it took it over as deplorable with the paint faded to a sickly shade! The loco had worked all it's days in a seaside location and had only basic maintenance so it needed a lot of attention. I have never found out why the Sou' West gave it the full attention for a simple pug when there was a backlog of maintenance of front line locomotives. Ian. I would believe that there was a greater need for the loco at Ayr Harbour, justifying its prompt attention at Works, as other locomotives would not have been suitable? Mark Saunders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davknigh Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 I would believe that there was a greater need for the loco at Ayr Harbour, justifying its prompt attention at Works, as other locomotives would not have been suitable? Mark Saunders Ayr Harbour was the home of one of the LMS Sentinels so short wheelbase engines were needed there. Cheers, David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian@stenochs Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Ayr Harbour was the home of one of the LMS Sentinels so short wheelbase engines were needed there. Cheers, David The Sentinel, or chip cart as the drivers called it, was needed for the Burns & Laird traffic on the south side of the river Ayr. They had to cross the bridge over the river which had been downgraded and couldn't take anything heavy. Where the Peckett worked was the wet dock on the north side. The G&SW had a couple of the 266 class 0-4-4 dock tanks at Ayr for shunting. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 You need one of these to run with your Pecketts . http://www.irsociety.co.uk/Archives/23/Shay.htm 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted January 19, 2017 Author Share Posted January 19, 2017 One here - http://www.nuneatonhistory.com/uploads/1/8/6/8/18680466/1355497_orig.jpg From this site, which contains a number of pictures of other industrial locomotives - http://www.nuneatonhistory.com/brickyards-quarries--collieries-extractive-industries.html 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 One here - http://www.nuneatonhistory.com/uploads/1/8/6/8/18680466/1355497_orig.jpg From this site, which contains a number of pictures of other industrial locomotives - http://www.nuneatonhistory.com/brickyards-quarries--collieries-extractive-indust I realise that these locos are like golddust at the moment, but the reboilered beast has given me some ideas for the future when the furore has died down. A bit like the lovely chopped cab job on another thread. Now that I am going to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Six days of lates can do that to a man!! I meant , the lovely chopped cab Peckett on this thread!!!! Maybe bed is in order!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ben Alder Posted February 16, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted February 16, 2017 Here is a shot of the sprayed loco -taken on a Samsung with a HD app uploaded - these things are proving interesting. 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 The works manager told the driver and fireman that the loco was an utter disgrace and that they need to get their act together. He'd ordered some replacement nameplates for Narrow Planet and wanted those fitting along with the rather nice Markit's whistle and some of those lamps from Mr. Buttler's emporium. The fireman got a rocket for fitting the works plates on the skew and was told "This isn't b****y China you know" as he looked at the glue dribbling out. The driver and foreman had the last laugh though as it was quite obvious that the works manager had ordered nameplates that were way too large for Fleur and that he'd have to shell out some more brass. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted February 23, 2017 Author Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) Seems everyone gets their order from Narrow Planet on the same day. Edited August 5, 2018 by Ruston 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost of IKB Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) Sadly I bought the wrong size plates too. Edited February 25, 2017 by The Ghost of IKB 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 If everybody is buying the 'wrong' size nameplates, what size would you recommend please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 If everybody is buying the 'wrong' size nameplates, what size would you recommend please? I haven't bought the wrong size. I ordered 2mm high plates. I think to get plates that fit between the rivet lines on the tank also works best otherwise you either have to file the rivet lines off, or have rhe plates standind away from the tank, which will look odd 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Initially I'd specified 2.5mm height; I've ordered another set at 1.75mm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost of IKB Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I got 3mm, what was I Thinking? Now reordered at 2mm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I got 3mm, what was I Thinking? Now reordered at 2mm. Value for money. I think 3mm was the max size. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cornelius Posted February 25, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 25, 2017 We usually recommend 2.5mm for 4mm scale Pecketts as their plates are slightly taller than average size in most cases - although the specific Peckett style has quite thin lettering. It all depends on the length of the name though so if you have a certain width the plates need to fit within just let us know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 I'm not sure the specific Peckett style plates are applicable to W4s. That style seems to have been later than the end of W4 production Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwnewall Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 What's is best to use to take off the Huntley and Palmers decals? There have been a few methods mentioned in this forum so I'm looking for the perfect one. Being a young modeller I do not want to mess up as it was a lot of peckett money saving! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beatty 139 Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Sadly I got involved in putting the twin disk torque converter back into a Thomas Hill this afternoon so by the time I had made it to the Museum at Chasewater the lads had locked up and gone home, if it helps anyone I will get some pics and dimensions off some of the Peckett plates in the collection next weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost of IKB Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 What's is best to use to take off the Huntley and Palmers decals? There have been a few methods mentioned in this forum so I'm looking for the perfect one. Being a young modeller I do not want to mess up as it was a lot of peckett money saving! I have used tamiya thinners on a cotton bud and also enamel thinners. Easy on the dark green msc one, but if you've got the Huntley one be very careful, the lining disappears easily, and the cab sides have very thin paint. On mine I rubbed right through the blue paint on the cab sides in seconds trying to get rid of the "d" above the works plates. If you're a bit worried about ruining it i'd just work on thee tank and ignore the cab sides. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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