844fan Posted September 17, 2017 Author Share Posted September 17, 2017 i recently came into possession of 7mm drawings of the GER and an industrial Nielson in a 1972 Model Railway News Oh nice Sam. Maybe a future project for modeling be quite interesting to see a Neilson with your Kitson tank. Boy would I love to see those drawings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 correction, not "model railway news" but "Model Railways" this one http://www.ebay.ie/itm/MODEL-RAILWAYS-Aug-1972-Vol-1-12-/221033175958?hash=item33769a9b96:m:mRN_BO40dTAMgPGYI9D4EIA i'll get the drawings scanned tomorrow 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 now scanned, PDF attached Neilson MR 1972.pdf 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian keane Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 This inside cylindered, 7' broad gauge neilson box of 1861 was the last box in existance, she was built for JC Rigby for the Holyhead Breakwater railway and was sold to the Ponta Delgada harbour railway in 1872 where she lasted until 1973, her two stablemates still survive there 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 these i presume? https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8060/8171724809_a6ea018a2f_b.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian keane Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 these i presume? https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8060/8171724809_a6ea018a2f_b.jpg Yes those locos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian keane Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Neilsons single cylindered narrow gauge box, 1854 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Is that Neilson, or Neath Abbey Ironworks? I know I’ve seen the picture before,and should know. Kevin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian keane Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 (edited) Is that Neilson, or Neath Abbey Ironworks? I know I’ve seen the picture before,and should know. Kevin I'm convinced it's neilson, photographed new outside the works, note the caption at the bottom rightDid Neath Abbey build similar machines? Edited February 24, 2018 by Killian keane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 I’m probably mis-remembering an article in the IRS magazine long ago, where I think this photo, and the question of Neath Abbey engines was discussed at length. One trouble is that photos of NAIW at this period show the same sort of arched doors and circular wind-eyes in the structure. Maybe it was a common feature of foundries, to get a cross draught at high level to disperse fumes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Presumably this is the loco in the photo? http://www.douglas-self.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/onecylinder/onecylinder.htm#neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian keane Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 (edited) Neilson 1367/1867 Edited April 15, 2018 by Killian keane 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougN Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Crazy question here, what colour was the above locomotive? I am looking at colours for my high level kits version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderforge Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 Looks like ex-works grey to me! Does anyone have any info on this loco, from High Harrington? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 The loco from High Harrington appears to be one of the Andrew Barclay 0-4-0STs supplied new to the Harrington Iron & Coal Co. (1875-1878) - but hard to tell from the thumbnail image. Do you have a larger scan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Couple of pics of the excellent Highlevel Neilson kit. Lovely kit to build. Dave. 7 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 On 06/10/2019 at 09:10, DougN said: Crazy question here, what colour was the above locomotive? I am looking at colours for my high level kits version. I don't think anyone can give an answer to that, so just do whatever colour you want. I did. I don't know why I haven't seen this thread before. I would like to have a go at scratchbuilding one of the box tanks but I can see it being a problem in OO as there is no running plate and it will be obvious that the gauge is too narrow. The back-to-back on the wheels may be narrower than the smokebox/steam chest etc. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougN Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Thanks Ruston. I have yet to finish mine... I have everything for it but I have got distracted by a Finney V2 I am building. OK it did start well before the Nielsen! I have seen a photo of a possible Nielsen in what I would guess is fully lined Green livery in a book on the construction of the GCR main line. But it was a friends book so I do not have access to it. Doug Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) Reviving this thread following my re-reading of the Brendon Hills book, a magnificent publication with an amazing amount of information within its pages. I have always had a yearning to base a layout on the West Somerset Mineral Railway but one of the possible obstacles might be a good working P4 model of the box tanks. Ruston's comment about frame widths probably wouldn't apply in P4 so I will have to revisit Iain Rice's old articles as mentioned above. Today's small motors and HL gearboxes should make the task of modelling a loco that much easier nowadays (he said hopefully!) My interest in the line stems from my uncle owning a farm at the bottom of the hill from Raleigh's Cross on the Williton road. I can remember at around 8 years of age going for a walk with my Dad and Uncle that took us down into the valley and along the WSMR trackbed to near the bottom of the incline. At the time I had no idea where or what 'the old railway' was - but I do now! Has anyone built a loco in the time since the thread went into 'hibernation'? Edited November 2, 2021 by 5050 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 On 15/04/2018 at 10:14, Killian keane said: Neilson 1367/1867 IIRC, an article in "Railway World" talked of 2 of the above loco's being lost in a shipwreck, being found and parts recovered. The aim was to bring them both up and restore one to a displayable condition. Did this ever happen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) Back to back: weren’t some of these locos built for sub-standard gauges? Yes, East Cornwall Mineral Railway at 3ft 6in had two, for instance. Edited November 2, 2021 by Nearholmer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieB Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 2 hours ago, 33C said: IIRC, an article in "Railway World" talked of 2 of the above loco's being lost in a shipwreck, being found and parts recovered. The aim was to bring them both up and restore one to a displayable condition. Did this ever happen? I'd be interested to know any more information (works numbers, destination). There was an article in Railway Magazine, September 2007 (plus at least one follow-up), that listed all known instances of steam locomotives lost at sea. The only Neilson 0-4-0ST in that list appears to have been part of an order for Nova Scotia in 1859, but the numbers given as lost (four locomotives) doesn't tally with works lists (two locomotives). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 22 minutes ago, EddieB said: I'd be interested to know any more information (works numbers, destination). There was an article in Railway Magazine, September 2007 (plus at least one follow-up), that listed all known instances of steam locomotives lost at sea. The only Neilson 0-4-0ST in that list appears to have been part of an order for Nova Scotia in 1859, but the numbers given as lost (four locomotives) doesn't tally with works lists (two locomotives). I read in another publication something about them being deck cargo. 2 were cut loose over the side to save the vessel. Whether these were the same 2 (of 4?) I don't recall but I am certain that Nova Scotia was the area. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I've turned up Ricey's article in Model Railways June '78 and, compared with some of his real 'nuts and bolts' articles' it is a bit skimpy. He used a Triang XT60 motor and Sharman 50:1 gears. It must have been a real shoehorn fit into the body and he had to grind some of the motor away to fit into the firebox. Wheels were made from Jackson wagon wheels turned down and fitted with tender wheel tyres, the ends of the front axle being turned down to fit the Jacksons but the back axle was 3/32", both to clear the motor and to fit the wheels. Not a lot of detail given as to how he built the chassis or even designed it and apart from Iain's inimitable sketches, not a lot of info on the details of the body. I'm sure that a modern motor and gearbox would be a lot easier to fit. Wheel centres could be 3D printed to fit Alan Gibson tyres perhaps. However, I do have an unused NOS set of Studiolith Manning Wardle wheels (2mm axles) which Iain says in the article could be a possible option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 19 hours ago, EddieB said: I'd be interested to know any more information (works numbers, destination). There was an article in Railway Magazine, September 2007 (plus at least one follow-up), that listed all known instances of steam locomotives lost at sea. The only Neilson 0-4-0ST in that list appears to have been part of an order for Nova Scotia in 1859, but the numbers given as lost (four locomotives) doesn't tally with works lists (two locomotives). It seems now that there were 2 complete locomotives, 2 loco's in knocked down form and a cargo of track components (rails and chairs) as ballast. At least 1 works-plate was recovered. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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