WILLIAM Posted April 22, 2018 Author Share Posted April 22, 2018 I wonder just how many models of 419 in DB Red will sell? I think it we be the fact that the only other DB red 37 has already been done as a limited edition is what is going to dictate sales success heavily. I'm in this camp. I already have 37670, which itself didn't operate long in DB red, so there's no way I can justify 419 (the days of being a completist collector have long gone at today's prices). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted April 22, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 22, 2018 I think it we be the fact that the only other DB red 37 has already been done as a limited edition is what is going to dictate sales success heavily. I'm in this camp. I already have 37670, which itself didn't operate long in DB red, so there's no way I can justify 419 (the days of being a completist collector have long gone at today's prices). I was thinking the same. A few of the 670 models seem to have been for sale recently on Ebay and via online model shops. This would show that their isn't even the demand to have and keep the original model which was produced several years ago, let alone buy the second model to make the pair. It's a shame that neither of them wore the DB Red for long because this is probably the reason why people can't justify to buy these models financially. I agree. In current times you have to buy the models that you like the most. The days of been a completist and buying all of the models that you wish have gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 I reckon they dropped it because the price went up between ordering and receiving and they simply couldn’t see any profit in it. But that’s my own guesswork, nothing more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric709 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 It's only ran in Maroon for WCRC, undergoing a full overhaul and repaint prior to entering traffic in 2010. Before that, it was stored in 2004, so not quite right for either the end of EWS or WCRC operation. It did work for EWS in these colours, plenty of pics of it. I stuck it out on its first job out of store...light loco toton to Corby to work the cars to Doncaster, was reinstated for the 2004 Sandie season for sure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogbox321 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I hope we don’t get much more colas, it seems over subscribed. And unless you have converted a load of yellow coaches what do you run with it ? Ah, you stuff full your 1970s Bachmann scenecraft depot with 10 of them.....! I’m not sure what Bachmann is up to with these ltd editions, I thought it was a good idea at first, but now it seems like a bit of a hand grenade of a marketing strategy. Give it a rest and make a sealed beam peak ... Its pretty simple - look at the amount of locos they have available on their web-site in stock. A few years ago that would not have been the case. Simple supply and demand economics. Higher prices = less demand! The rep's limited editions is just a way of selling a few hundred locos at a time, with the current pricing structure! A Class 37 was £139.95 last year and this year £159.99 and 37425 is RRP 164.95...... Regards, C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DRS Crewe On A Mission Posted April 23, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 23, 2018 Bachmann have just announced a third OO Gauge Regional Exclusive Class 37. This being 37032 with split headcode boxes in BR Railfreight Red Stripe Livery. http://news.Bachmann.co.uk/2018/04/red-striple-railfreight-class-37-0-sales-area-exclusive/ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Bachmann have just announced a third OO Gauge Regional Exclusive Class 37. This being 37032 with split headcode boxes in BR Railfreight Red Stripe Livery. http://news.Bachmann.co.uk/2018/04/red-striple-railfreight-class-37-0-sales-area-exclusive/ Thats a really good choice, along with 37685 are both normally models I'd want, but at £165 they're also not difficult to pass on. I'll just need to get the airbrush out on earlier releases I've bought a few years ago at about £100 less Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
owentherail Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Bachmann have just announced a third OO Gauge Regional Exclusive Class 37. This being 37032 with split headcode boxes in BR Railfreight Red Stripe Livery. http://news.Bachmann.co.uk/2018/04/red-striple-railfreight-class-37-0-sales-area-exclusive/ Weathered..... Oh dear that will put a tenner on price Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
159220 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Money money money, only if this has a hobby... bah humbug! Leaves just South West and Midlands/Wales Rep 37s left.... I wonder (perhaps/maybe/would it not be nice) out of the two 'Cardiff Canton' named 37s shall it be for Midlands/Wales? 37714 on the GCR or 37254 for Colas? Are there any named/geographically connected 37s for the South West? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIAM Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 Are there any named/geographically connected 37s for the South West? Lots although Kernow have already produced many of them. 37196 Tre Pol Pen in original Railfreight stands out as not having been done (37671 with the same name was a very early production release). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIAM Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 Thats a really good choice Agreed nice choice but how long did it actually run like that? I've read it got its painted name around October 1992 but was in store the following month never to return with BR? Can anyone confirm these details? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locoholic Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 I am so glad these models are not the Era I model - they don't appear in the Bachmann catalogue, and finding and ordering them seems to be quite hit and miss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 It’s easy, look on the Bachmann website under news and you’ll find all this stuff and where it’s being sold geographically. I’d like a 37674 “ st blaise church “ in transrail. IE a 37/5 without the bars on the grilles. But I imagine that’s a niche that not many are in ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksouthdown Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Thats a really good choice, along with 37685 are both normally models I'd want, but at £165 they're also not difficult to pass on. I'll just need to get the airbrush out on earlier releases I've bought a few years ago at about £100 less Rails of Sheffield appear to be offering them at a discount 15% of RRP. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Scottish-Exile Posted May 1, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) Split box 37 055 Rail Celebrity in Mainline Blue for the SWW area rep. http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/60105/32-775TL-Bachmann-Class-37-0-Diesel-Locomotive-number-37-055 Edited May 1, 2018 by Scottish-Exile 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIAM Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 Oooh nice! Hopefully someone will sell with some discount. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) Leaves just South West and Midlands/Wales Rep 37s left.... I wonder (perhaps/maybe/would it not be nice) out of the two 'Cardiff Canton' named 37s shall it be for Midlands/Wales? 37714 on the GCR or 37254 for Colas? Are there any named/geographically connected 37s for the South West? Nanas Boyo, Cornish clay 37 pretty please! Edit- Just read the rest of the thread and I am wrong again. At least I am consistent! Edited May 1, 2018 by royaloak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) Oooh nice! Hopefully someone will sell with some discount. If they think they can sell them all at RRP why would they discount? It is far too modern for me, the right colour but the wrong shade. Edited May 1, 2018 by royaloak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksouthdown Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Split box 37 055 Rail Celebrity in Mainline Blue for the SWW area rep. http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/p/60105/32-775TL-Bachmann-Class-37-0-Diesel-Locomotive-number-37-055 37055.JPG Interestingly this reps loco is available not only in the south west area but also in Kent, Surrey and Sussex unlike the other South West Area Rep class 47s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
girlinb Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Interestingly this reps loco is available not only in the south west area but also in Kent, Surrey and Sussex unlike the other South West Area Rep class 47s. The 2 South East LE's (47 and 37) have the same areas listed so i would say its an error with the 47625 advert as if not some counties missed out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Now that is nice ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40F Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) I believe the Reps territories have changed and the SW rep now covers Hampshire, W and E Sussex and Kent in addition to the SW. This could explain why one model is available in some counties and the others in more. Edited May 2, 2018 by 40F Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted May 2, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 2, 2018 The 2 South East LE's (47 and 37) have the same areas listed so i would say its an error with the 47625 advert as if not some counties missed out I believe the Reps territories have changed and the SW rep now covers Hampshire, W and E Sussex and Kent in addition to the SW. This could explain why one model is available in some counties and the others in more. I don't think any retailers missed out on the Rep Class 47s. The Kent and south coast retailers received the COLAS liveried Class 47 with 47625 being allocated the South West. Allocating 37055 to Kent, Sussex and Hampshire makes sense as they were Mainline territory, so perhaps the South West is getting it too because as 40F says the sales areas have changed. The South West was Transrail territory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILLIAM Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 (edited) If they think they can sell them all at RRP why would they discount? To attract new customers?? I thought that was what this rep model initiative was all about or is there a danger of it becoming an unintentional racket where punters pay full RRP for desireable models that could otherwise have been catalogue items? Edited May 2, 2018 by WILLIAM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Well that’s the point isn’t it ? They are not catalogue items and unlikely to have been so, and I think they are not allowed to discount them initially. I’d love one of these but £165 is 65% more than I paid for my other mainline 37 about 2 years back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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