RMweb Gold Barry Ten Posted October 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2020 Vic Reeves thigh-rubbing. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted October 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) Nice. Edited October 12, 2020 by NHY 581 11 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted October 12, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2020 I want one.....and I want it NOW 4 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Blimey only 1p ! I'll take half a dozen please 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 13, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 13, 2020 18 hours ago, AY Mod said: Lovely little fella... The review will be in BRM December at the end of this month. I'm looking at a photo of 1303 that, I suspect, was a reference for this version of the model and taken from virtually the same angle; taken on 9 June 1947, with the locomotive in ex-works condition. Apart from assembly issues (vacuum cylinder for the smokebox regulator not sitting correctly so that the link rod is bent, brake linkage drooping where it should be vertical) one thing that springs out at me is that the safety valve trumpet is too skinny - it looks like the type used by Johnson in the 1870s/early 80s rather than the wider-based type used on the 1532 Class from new. The whistle sits a bit high. There are various arrangements for the clack valve piping (and many engines with boilers without this fitting); on 1303 in this photo, the pipe makes a reverse curve to pass through the footplate just behind the footsteps, rather than diving behind the frames. These are of course relatively minor points on what is in general a superb-looking model. It's worth noting for LMS enthusiasts that this model represents 1303 in post-October 1938 condition, when it moved to Gloucester to work motor trains on the Nailsworth / Stroud branch. Photographs of it during its first stay on the Somerset & Dorset section, Oct 1933 - Oct 1938, working the Wells Branch motor train, show the smokebox numberplate with the Midland-style serif numbers rather than the 1936 LMS block style seen in post-1938 photographs; I also suspect that at this period, it would not have had the red-shaded lettering, though it is difficult to be confident from monochrome photos of a grubby engine. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted October 13, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 13, 2020 20 hours ago, Ian Hargrave said: I want one.....and I want it NOW What, the sheep? 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 This photo? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/192879732822 I think the letters are red shaded, but could be the black shaded transfers. It may be a case of where the red looks black on a B&W photo. What one to get though? LMS version is most useful, but I have a feeling the Crimson version will fly off the shelves. At least I don't have to worry about a lack of suitable coaches for these. Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 13, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: This photo? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/192879732822 I think the letters are red shaded, but could be the black shaded transfers. It may be a case of where the red looks black on a B&W photo. Yes. The reproduction in the book is very much better than in that photo of a rather poor print; in the book it is very clear that the tank-side initials and bunker-side numerals are shaded red, also in a photo taken a month later - 5 July 1947 - during the brief period 1303 was at Derby as station pilot, before returning to Gloucester in October of that year. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted October 13, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 13, 2020 On 12/10/2020 at 17:45, Ian Hargrave said: I want one.....and I want it NOW 4 hours ago, MJI said: What, the sheep? And this is a problem because.............. 1 1 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted October 14, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 14, 2020 21 hours ago, Compound2632 said: I'm looking at a photo of 1303 that, I suspect, was a reference for this version of the model and taken from virtually the same angle; taken on 9 June 1947, with the locomotive in ex-works condition. Apart from assembly issues (vacuum cylinder for the smokebox regulator not sitting correctly so that the link rod is bent, brake linkage drooping where it should be vertical) one thing that springs out at me is that the safety valve trumpet is too skinny - it looks like the type used by Johnson in the 1870s/early 80s rather than the wider-based type used on the 1532 Class from new. The whistle sits a bit high. There are various arrangements for the clack valve piping (and many engines with boilers without this fitting); on 1303 in this photo, the pipe makes a reverse curve to pass through the footplate just behind the footsteps, rather than diving behind the frames. These are of course relatively minor points on what is in general a superb-looking model. It's worth noting for LMS enthusiasts that this model represents 1303 in post-October 1938 condition, when it moved to Gloucester to work motor trains on the Nailsworth / Stroud branch. Photographs of it during its first stay on the Somerset & Dorset section, Oct 1933 - Oct 1938, working the Wells Branch motor train, show the smokebox numberplate with the Midland-style serif numbers rather than the 1936 LMS block style seen in post-1938 photographs; I also suspect that at this period, it would not have had the red-shaded lettering, though it is difficult to be confident from monochrome photos of a grubby engine. There's a lovely photo on page 149 of Heart of the Somerset & Dorset Railway by Alan Hammond of 1303 at Wells Priory Road. It does rather support your views of the details Compers. However I don't think it detracts from what looks to be a lovely model. Interesting to note that the initial release includes two locos from the former S&DJR. Much appreciated. Rob. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 14, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, NHY 581 said: Interesting to note that the initial release includes two locos from the former S&DJR. They're no fools, those Barwell folk. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold phil_sutters Posted October 16, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 16, 2020 Wait 50 years and two come along together - but I can't justify the expenditure having got my old friends from 1969 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 16, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, phil_sutters said: Wait 50 years and two come along together - but I can't justify the expenditure having got my old friends from 1969 Ah, but yours are proper S&DJR 0-4-4Ts - Avonsides from 1877, No. 10 with its late-Johnson / Deeley boiler of 1907, No. 14A with its 1891 boiler - the A suffix was applied in Feb 1897; if we see both engines together we must be between March and December 1907 [D. Bradley & D. Milton, Somerset and Dorset Locomotive History (David & Charles, 1973) p. 207]. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shunny Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 I wonder if we will get a SDJR blue version for the next collectors club model in November? 4 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 16, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, shunny said: I wonder if we will get a SDJR blue version for the next collectors club model in November? As previously mentioned, it has to be the second No. 54, formerly MR 1532 Class No. 1305 (1907 number), sold to the S&DJR for £3,000 in January 1921, to replace the original No. 54 that had been withdrawn with damaged frames. There's variety: you could have it as delivered to the S&DJR in Midland red, lettered SDJR, or as subsequently repainted in blue. Curiously, the replacement was older than the engine it replaced, old No. 54 having been one of the Vulcan batch of S&DJR 0-4-4Ts, delivered in January 1885, whereas its replacement had emerged from Derby works in April 1884. The Vulcan batch of 0-4-4Ts were essentially the same as the original Avonsides of 1877 but the engines being built for the Midland had progressed through a couple more iterations to the larger 1532 Class, as modelled by Bachmann. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold phil_sutters Posted October 16, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Compound2632 said: Ah, but yours are proper S&DJR 0-4-4Ts - Avonsides from 1877, No. 10 with its late-Johnson / Deeley boiler of 1907, No. 14A with its 1891 boiler - the A suffix was applied in Feb 1897; if we see both engines together we must be between March and December 1907 [D. Bradley & D. Milton, Somerset and Dorset Locomotive History (David & Charles, 1973) p. 207]. Thanks for your dates. I am afraid that I have never been that careful about that aspect. I don't even like running trains. I just enjoy making things. I was probably more adventurous fifty years ago, when the bulk of my S&D stock was built, than I am now. My Highbridge Wharf's little brother, Old Brue Quay, is still creeping forward with the Highbridge Anthracite Fuel Works and a mini version of John Bland's vast sawmill and timber yard under construction. Although I haven't a clue what some of the structures on the outside of the solid fuel factory actually did. Thanks for your interest and 'thumb(s) up. Edited October 16, 2020 by phil_sutters 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 3 hours ago, shunny said: I wonder if we will get a SDJR blue version for the next collectors club model in November? Almost certainly at some point. I think it's going to be that or GWR 9466 as preserved. I've already decided on an LMS version. Possibly the MR crimson. Three might be a bit too many for me, but it's something different so who knows. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted October 17, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 17, 2020 Why is the cab side cutouts glazed in that photo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 17, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 17, 2020 5 hours ago, Northroader said: Why is the cab side cutouts glazed in that photo? Which photo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northroader Posted October 17, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) oh no, closer inspection shows it’s just the interior paint plus reflections. Should have gone to spec savers. Edited October 17, 2020 by Northroader 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 22 hours ago, Compound2632 said: There's variety: you could have it as delivered to the S&DJR in Midland red, lettered SDJR, or as subsequently repainted in blue. Two Collectors Club editions then 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted October 18, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 18, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, Poor Old Bruce said: Two Collectors Club editions then Theres quite a lot “in stock” in the club at the moment... a quick look saw: Weathered 4MT Preserved green 9F EWS class 47 SNCB class 90 DRS class 57 J72 BR Green Plus coaches and wagons. I wouldn’t get hopes up yet, I was all set for a lined out LNWR 1054 Coal tank... As the MR and BR ones aren’t out till December / Jan, I’m not sure they would do a collectors one ahead of those. That said they’ve recently done some 40’s so they could surprise us with one, or 55 or 66, or a mk1 BG. I’d imagine at some point an SDJR 1P is on the cards... Bachmann has a soft spot for SDJR and GCR stuff, it’s an obvious fit. Edited October 18, 2020 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poor Old Bruce Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Hey Ho! Keep wishing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Gold tractionman Posted November 6, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 6, 2020 Looks fantastic and smooth running at a sensible speed, really looking forward to the arrival of the 1P. Thanks for posting. Cheers, Keith 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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