MonsalDan Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Isambard Smith said: Had an email from them earlier, they were apparently inundated with preorders and are still working through them! Quite relieved to hear that, was getting a bit worried it had been lost in the system! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted December 7, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, mikesndbs said: There seems to be some confusion regarding how many of these were built! Some say a class of 65 others say 115 and Bachmann's write up say 112. Can anyone confirm the truth please? The Bachmann model represents the 1532 Class, 65 engines built in five batches 1881-1886, and the 1823 and 1833 Classes, 50 engines built in four batches 1889-1893. These engines were all visually identical as built (apart from condensing equipment), the difference being that the 1532 Class were built with 17" x 24" cylinders, whereas the later classes had 18" x 24" cylinders from new and some batches had 150 psi rather than 140 psi boiler pressure. These differences were ironed out over the years as the earlier engines were fitted with 18" x 24" cylinders (mostly in the 1890s) and with boiler changes - but I'm afraid I haven't worked out from the published information whether they gravitated towards 140 psi or 150 psi as the standard. The 1532 Class engines were all built at Derby, the early 1880s being a time of industrial depression, whereas thirty of the later engines were built in Glasgow. I've no idea how Bachmann have come to lose three - I suspect someone couldn't read someone else's handwriting. Edited December 7, 2020 by Compound2632 Typos corrected 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesndbs Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Hi all I am no expert on the Midland, but when I spotted this little stunner I just had to order one. I've since re-oiled my four car set and she manages it well now. Will still look at adding a little weight I think. 14 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daltonparva Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just been asked by Bachmann to pay for the SDJR blue ltd ed one. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold franciswilliamwebb Posted December 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 9, 2020 31 minutes ago, daltonparva said: Just been asked by Bachmann to pay for the SDJR blue ltd ed one. Ditto. Worth mentioning the following from the eMail: ”we shall be making the items live on our website to allow other members to purchase any remaining stock from midday on Monday 14th December” 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invicta Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 hour ago, daltonparva said: Just been asked by Bachmann to pay for the SDJR blue ltd ed one. Yes, had the same email this morning, and just paid for it- Still waiting on news of the MR one I'd ordered from Rails, but as said a few posts back, seems they're inundated with pre-orders, so not panicking just yet! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted December 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) Very excited.......I have just checked and I have paid for my S&DJR blue example this morning so much excitement. This is on top of the arrival of 58072 earlier today...Not seen though as Santa's little helper in the form of the Memsahib has spirited it away for delivery on Christmas morning. It appears to be very much a 1P Christmas morning...... Need to settle down now before I'm sick. Rob. Edited December 9, 2020 by NHY 581 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philou Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Not feeling baaaaad, I hope 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted December 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 9, 2020 33 minutes ago, Philou said: Not feeling baaaaad, I hope Nope. Calmed down now. The arrival of the Blue S&D example is something a bit special, sad but true. For more years that I care to remember I have wanted such a loco. I never did complete the brass kits of the Avonside 0.4.4T and sold them on, unbuilt. One thing for sure, this won't end up on a shelf. This loco will form the basis of a small 1920s S&D layout. Rob. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted December 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 9, 2020 Can I just reveal my complete ignorance of the history of this class but...would they have been found on goods trains in the BR era? (and yes I am a big fan of Rule 1 as well) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted December 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, Gilbert said: Can I just reveal my complete ignorance of the history of this class but...would they have been found on goods trains in the BR era? (and yes I am a big fan of Rule 1 as well) Hi Chris, In terms of the S&DJR, I don't recall seeing an image on a goods only service. 58072 worked the Bridgewater branch and there are images of mixed trains up until closure featuring 072 and classmates. However, I accept your challenge...... Rob. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold queensquare Posted December 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, Gilbert said: Can I just reveal my complete ignorance of the history of this class but...would they have been found on goods trains in the BR era? (and yes I am a big fan of Rule 1 as well) Most certainly on the S&D Wells and Bridgwater branches. A very attractive train is the mixed trains seen on the Wells branch comprising a single coach and handful of wagons. Jerry 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted December 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, queensquare said: Most certainly on the S&D Wells and Bridgwater branches. A very attractive train is the mixed trains seen on the Wells branch comprising a single coach and handful of wagons. Jerry 4 minutes ago, NHY 581 said: Hi Chris, In terms of the S&DJR, I don't recall seeing an image on a goods only service. 58072 worked the Bridgewater branch and there are images of mixed trains up until closure featuring 072 and classmates. However, I accept your challenge...... Rob. That'll do me then.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted December 9, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Gilbert said: Can I just reveal my complete ignorance of the history of this class but...would they have been found on goods trains in the BR era? (and yes I am a big fan of Rule 1 as well) Generally speaking, the few survivors to the early BR period were retained for working specific branch lines - some motor trains, others not, but universally passenger, or as Jerry says, mixed, but not goods trains. In the places where they worked, you want a 3F for that. Fortunately Bachmann provide! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted December 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 9, 2020 17 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: Generally speaking, the few survivors to the early BR period were retained for working specific branch lines - some motor trains, others not, but universally passenger, or as Jerry says, mixed, but not goods trains. In the places where they worked, you want a 3F for that. Fortunately Bachmann provide! Indeed they do....just needs a little friend now... 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted December 9, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) Interesting point about 0-4-4 tanks on goods trains. One morning in my short-trousered youth, the up goods (Exmouth Jn to Yeovil) arrived at Axminster with a M7 in place of the usual 700, which had been failed for a leak of some sort. The driver was a friendly sort and, while the fireman topped up the tanks, we lads learned that he would have turned the M7 to run bunker first if he'd had enough notice. He reckoned they had a fair bit more pulling power that way round. John Edited December 9, 2020 by Dunsignalling 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Red one arrived earlier (from TMC if anyone else is waiting). Paid for the Blue one as well. I was only interested in the LMS version originally.... That's been put on hold for a few days as I'm wondering whether any other pre-orders are coming. They have a habit of appearing from nowhere. But I think I'm safe as most seem to now be put back to Spring. The LMS is the useful one as it's push/pull fitted. But I was thinking they might release a Belpaire version in the future which will be a bit different. So if I miss out on that one, more versions may appear in future. Jason 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR Chuffer Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 So, little chance outside of Rule 1 for the red one to be involved in any other traffic beyond local and branch passenger pre-WW1? I have loads of MR goods wagons, including vacuum fitted and through piped, but have not yet built my carriage kits. It might just have to sit there for now simmering in the bay platform. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aire Head Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, MR Chuffer said: So, little chance outside of Rule 1 for the red one to be involved in any other traffic beyond local and branch passenger pre-WW1? I have loads of MR goods wagons, including vacuum fitted and through piped, but have not yet built my carriage kits. It might just have to sit there for now simmering in the bay platform. Tanks engines such as the 1532 were used to haul express trais between Leeds and Bradford. A larger locomotive would handle between Leeds and London. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR Chuffer Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Aire Head said: A larger locomotive would handle between Leeds and London Way too ambitious, I'm local passenger into and out of East Lancashire via Skipton... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted December 9, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Aire Head said: Tanks engines such as the 1532 were used to haul express trais between Leeds and Bradford. Manningham had a large allocation in Midland days, working the Bradford expresses as far as Leeds, where a 4-4-0 would be put on the other end to work as far as Leicester, Derby, or Nottingham. But they also worked a good deal of the fast residential traffic out to Otley and Ilkley, etc. In later years this work became the province of 2-6-4Ts. If you really want a 1532 working goods trains, you want a condenser-fitted one in pre-1907 condition. Such engines worked goods and coal trains via the St Pancras tunnel and Metropolitan widened lines to Midland depots south of the Thames and exchange sidings such Battersea Wharf. 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR Chuffer Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 So goods trains have been worked, although wrong place and wrong era. Still think it will sit there, simmering and looking pretty spurring me on to get some arc roofed and 6 wheel clerestory carriages built! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinehill Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 To those who have just received their model, can they confirm what notes have been enclosed in regard to using a feedback controller &/or electronic track cleaners with this coreless motored locomotive? If you ask why then see recent postings in regard to the 94xx pannier tanks. Thanks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Pinehill said: To those who have just received their model, can they confirm what notes have been enclosed in regard to using a feedback controller &/or electronic track cleaners with this coreless motored locomotive? If you ask why then see recent postings in regard to the 94xx pannier tanks. Thanks. The same as it says on the 94XX instructions. Virtually word for word. Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinehill Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: The same as it says on the 94XX instructions. Virtually word for word. Jason So has anybody run it using a feedback controller &/or an electronic track cleaner? If so what result? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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