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[Redford73]

That model reminds me of Harrow Crown Court.

 

1970s prison vans - I'm too young to remember them, unfortunately, but I imagine them to have been either navy blue or black before these transports were contracted out. Something like this:

 

Yes, Horsetan - it is a bit like Harrow Crown too.  Looking at the pic the walls are also like Inner London Crown which if I recall used to have a guard hut at the entrance.

 

Thanks for the pic.  Black Marias or perhaps the American GMC vans or maybe even Ford Transits? 

 

I need to put the Royal Coat of Arms and 'Dieu et mon Droit' motto on the front of the building.

[The Johnster]

Preiser did a set entitled 'Police bust at a brothel'

 

surely that must include a few judges ?

 

 

David

 

But equally surely, not wearing robes.  Or anything else...

Edited January 26, 2017 by The Johnster

[The Johnster]

No constructive suggestions here, as all seems to have been covered by previous learned counsel, but if you want judges in wigs and robes it is possible that some 17th or 18th century military figures might be adaptable to the situation.  Just a thought.

[Dufus]

When I saw the picture, I immediately thought of the back of Kidderminster Magistrates court.  It is right next door to the Severn Railway Heritage station.  Years ago I used to train staff there, several used to work part time on the heritage rail and gave me a guided tour behind the scenes.  A great distraction watching the steam locos waiting at the platform outside the window!!

[BernardTPM]

Black Marias or perhaps the American GMC vans or maybe even Ford Transits?

They wouldn't be likely to use anything but British made vehicles then. Once the Austin/Morris LD would have been an obvious choice, but these went out of production in 1968 and I'm not sure their replacement, the EA, was much used for this purpose. I think the large Bedford shown in the picture might be based on the SB coach chassis. Something as simple as a large Ford Transit will suit though.

[Horsetan]

OT, but I wonder how many Solicitors and Counsel are on this Forum....?

[chris p bacon]

OT, but I wonder how many Solicitors and Counsel are on this Forum....?

See how many submit an invoice?

[phil_sutters]

To get a taste of the motley crew hanging around outside a Crown Court, you only have to plonk the little yellow person down on a Google map in the area of a Crown Court. This is how Southwark Crown Court, one of the busiest in the land, looked when the Google car passed by https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5052195,-0.082201,3a,75y,343.13h,78.45t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1syMtEp3EHN-i98-_ShMpCUA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Somewhere among all that lot there was a suited man with a pull-a-long case.

I can supply a photo of a Google car, as that obviously didn't get into the picture.

Edited January 26, 2017 by phil_sutters

[chris p bacon]

To get a taste of the motley crew hanging around outside a Crown Court, you only have to plonk the little yellow person down on a Google map in the area of a Crown Court. This is how Southwark Crown Court, one of the busiest in the land, looked when the Google car passed by https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5052195,-0.082201,3a,75y,343.13h,78.45t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1syMtEp3EHN-i98-_ShMpCUA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Somewhere among all that lot there was a suited man with a pull-a-long case.

I can supply a photo of a Google car, as that obviously didn't get into the picture.

All those stepladders...you'd think a steam special was due 

 

I wonder if someone like Rolf harris was due that day...

[Horsetan]

...I can supply a photo of a Google car, as that obviously didn't get into the picture.

 

I'm not sure Google was even a glint in the eye in the mid-1970s.

[Edwardian]

To get a taste of the motley crew hanging around outside a Crown Court, you only have to plonk the little yellow person down on a Google map in the area of a Crown Court. This is how Southwark Crown Court, one of the busiest in the land, looked when the Google car passed by https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5052195,-0.082201,3a,75y,343.13h,78.45t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1syMtEp3EHN-i98-_ShMpCUA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Somewhere among all that lot there was a suited man with a pull-a-long case.

I can supply a photo of a Google car, as that obviously didn't get into the picture.

 

These look like journos.  Southwark Crown Court is untypical, it has lots of high-profile cases, e.g. fraud trials

[RANGERS]

They wouldn't be likely to use anything but British made vehicles then. Once the Austin/Morris LD would have been an obvious choice, but these went out of production in 1968 and I'm not sure their replacement, the EA, was much used for this purpose. I think the large Bedford shown in the picture might be based on the SB coach chassis. Something as simple as a large Ford Transit will suit though.

 

The BMC LDs were commonplace for this work up to the 70s, later Transits, Sherpas and Bedford CFs replaced them.

 

The Bedford pictured is a VAS (later renamed PJK) and was the small coach chassis based on the TK truck chassis. The body pictured was built by Duple or Willowbrook although other contracts for these were built by Strachans, Marshall, Harrington and probably others.

 

A kit of the Duple/ Willowbrook was available by Sutherland some years ago and appears on Ebay from time to time.

 

As they were very much bespoke vehicles which covered minimal mileages, they could have lengthy service lives.

[The White Rabbit]

Maybe a bit OTT, but there's the symbol of justice: http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=PR29076&r=1

[Kelly]

If you wanted to make your own (regardless of whether they'd be seen in robes for a moment) you could use something like polymer clay to sculpt the wig and the flowing robe.

 

You would of course have to decide if they're to be fixed, as if you put them onto a plastic figure it won't end too well as you need to bake the clay at between 110-130 degrees (depending upon brand used) for 30 minutes in an oven. Of course you could sculpt the entire figure in the clay too.

 

I use a lot of the stuff for my jewellery making (making things such as dragon and star wars cufflinks etc) and it is versatile stuff.

[br2975]

I always fancied lifting someone for this offence............................

 

".........It is a criminal offence (contempt) to take a photograph in any court of any person, being a judge of the court or a juror or a witness in or a party to any proceedings before the court, whether civil or criminal, or to publish such a photograph. This includes photographs taken in a court building, or the precincts of the court. .........."

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But not as much as I would have liked to have had a collar under  Sec.2 of the Ecclesiastical Courts Jurisdiction Act 1860 .

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But if you were ever stuck for a power then the 'Town Police Clauses Act'  always came in useful..........for those beating carpets, mending carriages, hooping barrels, setting bonfires etc

[sp1]

I always fancied lifting someone for this offence............................

 

".........It is a criminal offence (contempt) to take a photograph in any court of any person, being a judge of the court or a juror or a witness in or a party to any proceedings before the court, whether civil or criminal, or to publish such a photograph. This includes photographs taken in a court building, or the precincts of the court. .........."

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But not as much as I would have liked to have had a collar under Sec.2 of the Ecclesiastical Courts Jurisdiction Act 1860 .

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But if you were ever stuck for a power then the 'Town Police Clauses Act' always came in useful..........for those beating carpets, mending carriages, hooping barrels, setting bonfires etc

Completely off topic, for which I apologise (perhaps it would make an interesting thread in its own right - I know there are a number of members of the legal profession/ police on here) but I have always found some outdated laws/ bylaws to be interesting/ amusing......

[phil_sutters]

Maybe a bit OTT, but there's the symbol of justice: http://www.gaugemaster.com/item_details.asp?code=PR29076&r=1

 

I like the way 'Similar Products By PREISER' changes every time you return to the site and seem to be a completely random selection - a couple in jeans - american infantry ----. I initially returned to the site having seen the first 'selection' and thinking I would comment on how dissimilar they were, only to find that another equally dissimilar bunch had arrived.

[Redford73]

Back on topic I may just try some DAS clay or even some filler on some suited figures and paint as appropriate.  I only need a couple of counsel and some police constables to set the scene and I know Preiser and Bachmann Scenecraft do police officers though they are generally more modern officers in their sets.

 

I've already got a Bentley Continental as a Judge's car at the rear staff car park and the 70s police cars as per the photo above. 

 

 

[Welchester]

I always fancied lifting someone for this offence............................

 

But not as much as I would have liked to have had a collar under  Sec.2 of the Ecclesiastical Courts Jurisdiction Act 1860 .

 

Not as much as I wish someone had. Many times.

[phil_sutters]

DSC_2296.jpgBack on topic I may just try some DAS clay or even some filler on some suited figures and paint as appropriate.  I only need a couple of counsel and some police constables to set the scene and I know Preiser and Bachmann Scenecraft do police officers though they are generally more modern officers in their sets.

 

I've already got a Bentley Continental as a Judge's car at the rear staff car park and the 70s police cars as per the photo above. 

This Bachman set has four out of six that would be OK in the 70s, I would have thought. The ones in dayglo tops could be repainted or redeployed. https://www.wonderlandmodels.com/products/Bachmann-police-and-security-staff-set-6-figures/

A small single decker bus with most of its side windows filled in and the whole repainted in black or navy blue could provide your prison van. Hattons have some s/h around th £6-8 mark. Getting the doors to look secure might be a challenge.

Edited February 1, 2017 by phil_sutters

[Nearholmer]

Any help?

[Edwardian]

Any help?

 

Nice, but don't you think there is already too much frothing on RMWeb?

[rovex]

I remember being in Leeds in around the 1980's and seeing the Judge's Daimler escorted by a number of police outriders sweeping into the courthouse precinct. Now that might make a nice cameo.

 

And what about some solicitors, alright I know its just men in suits, but as a member of the junior profession, I don't want to feel left out. You could also put a couple of brass plaques on the walls of the buildings opposite to represent either counsel's chambers or solicitors offices. 

[Redford73]

I remember being in Leeds in around the 1980's and seeing the Judge's Daimler escorted by a number of police outriders sweeping into the courthouse precinct. Now that might make a nice cameo.

 

And what about some solicitors, alright I know its just men in suits, but as a member of the junior profession, I don't want to feel left out. You could also put a couple of brass plaques on the walls of the buildings opposite to represent either counsel's chambers or solicitors offices. 

 

There are already solicitors on the scene - see the men in suits in front of the court?  I have one of the buildings at the back as a solicitor's office (Bachmann Scenecraft Accountants Office with alternative name plaque on).  

[Horsetan]

As a late addition to the thread, this fellow could probably produce quite a lot of solicitors and Counsel

 

Not sure whether the tagline about him being one of the last three "professional miniature makers" is correct but, if it is, I wonder who the other two are?