Bomag Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) For those who have received their NGS 1/17 Journal, NGS has announced doing a RTR Hunslet DH shunter but completely failed to mention who is producing it (or even if it is direct commission with a factory). I have no doubt that the body will be as good as any NGS RTR model, but what about the chassis? For me its a very much a Rule 1 model so probably only a single model - the orange CEGB one looks particularly perky. Edited March 18, 2017 by Bomag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium steam-driven boy Posted January 28, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2017 Hi, I have no doubt that the body will be as good as any NGS RTR model, but what about the chassis? The NGS Journal states: Our model is being designed by Colin Allbright, who has experience of producing small 0-6-0 models in N having produced the Class 03 and 04 shunters during his time as design engineer with Graham Farish... A 'Rule 1' certainty for me, just have to decide which livery... Regards, Gerry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkie Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Their's atleast two I want to order Railfreight Two tone grey & RMS LOCOTEC Deffo a great model Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolk Rob Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Good choice by NGS and a red Esso one is a good excuse to order more class B tanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bon Accord Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 What's the background to the two tone grey model. Is a it a preserved livery? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted January 28, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2017 (edited) Hello all, I will try to add a little more information about this model and answer some of the questions above directly. The Hunslet 0-6-0 DH was produced from the early 1960s I believe and has seen service in numerous private industries, collieries, quarries, oil refineries and fuel terminals etc. This locomotive is currently owned by Harry Needle and is at Long Marston, where we went to collect a large number of measurements. We also visited the Elsecar railway where there is another Hunslet last year. The two-tone green livery was applied to NCB locos, as was maroon, where they were used in the North East, Midlands and elsewhere over a long period. Other liveries we are planning to offer are BP Green, Esso Red, Port of Workington yellow/blue, British Coal black/yellow and RMS blue/grey. These liveries are a selection proposed at the moment but for now the choices are not set in stone and we are looking at other possibilities. We need to be wary of trying to offer too many liveries - after all, each scheme will be subject to a minimum order number. The RfD two-tone grey livery was briefly carried by a loco in preservation at Carnforth I think. We are also considering the possibility of offering a freelance unlettered model - maybe in plain green, white or blue - but this is defintely not finalised. In terms of DCC provision we will fit a decoder but we are not yet sure how until we see the CADs, which are in preparation at the moment. Cheers Ben A. (NGS VP) Edited January 28, 2017 by Ben A 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Looks good, just wish there would be a RTR in OO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium maq1988 Posted January 28, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2017 I would certainly be interested in a NCB or 'plain' livery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolk Rob Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Ben As I said above, a really exciting choice and, yet again, the NGS comes up with a proposal that maximises the members whose era choices fit with the model. (not that that's neccesary to order one or more) On livery choices I think, admittedly with no real knowledge to back it up, that complimentary stock is going to be key to enough orders to justify some liveries. If there are/were real life examples, I wonder if ECC (lots of v. good china clay stock available from 60s to modern day) and military examples could be winners. On the subject of generic/unbranded liveries there has been an awful lot of feedback on here to suggest that unumbered doesn't sell but I suspect it may be different for a generic industrial, perhaps even with a single digit running number? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolk Rob Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Sorry Ben, another question, how long over buffers is one of these in n gauge? I feel an evening of layout planning coming on! Regards Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alibuchan Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 That RMS Locotec one looks very good. I would be interested in a plain white one, as I think one in a yellow Corus livery, like the 20's were in, would look good pottering round in my steel yard. Looks like I'm going to have to rejoin the NGS. Can orders be taken at Glasgow show at the end of Feb? Alistair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted January 28, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2017 Hi Alistair, Something like this? https://www.flickr.com/photos/andyvphoto/8324710467/in/photolist-dFCjgp-bM4mrr-oxgdyi-ncg8yo-9Pm14X-khvrgF-7UJxjc-gqQXbe-dj2FWZ-gqQW96-gqSvBe-gqStG2-gqRpHo-gqSo8X-gqRrPN-6afKLx-a6Cp94-9seupk-rsf7Lo-oy8iQa-6AavYq-gjmqV8-oukFKL-ox5zRR-gWhu9e-dFCjoP-gjmJKB-gjkMfs-gjmJnH-gjmK8v-gjkhxs-gjmtpA-FnAnR9-y2kKdi-xpzCQJ-ouTJNc-mbP3k2 Cheers Ben A. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alibuchan Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Hi Alistair, Something like this? https://www.flickr.com/photos/andyvphoto/8324710467/in/photolist-dFCjgp-bM4mrr-oxgdyi-ncg8yo-9Pm14X-khvrgF-7UJxjc-gqQXbe-dj2FWZ-gqQW96-gqSvBe-gqStG2-gqRpHo-gqSo8X-gqRrPN-6afKLx-a6Cp94-9seupk-rsf7Lo-oy8iQa-6AavYq-gjmqV8-oukFKL-ox5zRR-gWhu9e-dFCjoP-gjmJKB-gjkMfs-gjmJnH-gjmK8v-gjkhxs-gjmtpA-FnAnR9-y2kKdi-xpzCQJ-ouTJNc-mbP3k2 Cheers Ben A. I would have one of those! Not sure if it's going to make the minimum though Alistair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted January 28, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2017 Sorry Ben, another question, how long over buffers is one of these in n gauge? I feel an evening of layout planning coming on! Regards Rob Hi Rob, The prototype is about 30' over buffers, so the model is likely to be around 60mm over buffers, according to the dimensions I have. Cheers Ben A. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neal cooper Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Congratulations Ben and Mike, I'm in for three at least. Excellent choice of prototype with a useful chassis to use in the future for other projects no doubt. I would be interested in a plain or simply numbered variant too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomag Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 Hi, The NGS Journal states: Regards, Gerry. The journal mentions who designed it, not who is going to produce it - good design fails with indifferent manufacture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted January 29, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2017 The journal mentions who designed it, not who is going to produce it - good design fails with indifferent manufacture. Hi Bomag, I don't know the name of the factory involved; but then I didn't know the name of any of the factories Dapol used to make our Colletts or Snowploughs. I know that Colin is working with designers and engineers he knows well and has worked with before, and with his track record delivering models in the past - in particular good quality small 0-6-0 chassis - I am confident the model will not disappoint. Cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) I don't know the name of the factory involved; but then I didn't know the name of any of the factories Dapol used to make our Colletts or Snowploughs. . I guess a bit like the factories/manufacturer DJM uses are not announced and widely known. And probably for other UK model railway brands/commissioners. But it doesn't mean the final product will be indifferent. G. Edited January 29, 2017 by grahame 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted January 29, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 29, 2017 I saw this yesterday and loved the idea. I hope it does well. It's not something I will be purchasing, but only because I can't see a need for one on my current layout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted January 29, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2017 I saw this yesterday and loved the idea. I hope it does well. It's not something I will be purchasing, but only because I can't see a need for one on my current layout. Hi Kris, Thanks for the support - and that's fair enough; if it's not for you, it's not for you. However, we are hopeful that many members may decide to buy one on the basis that it could form the motive power for a small shunting layout, or be the inspiration for a small industrial facility or warehouse in an unused corner of existing layouts. Cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Izzy Posted January 29, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 29, 2017 Hi Rob, The prototype is about 30' over buffers, so the model is likely to be around 60mm over buffers, according to the dimensions I have. Cheers Ben A. Thanks Ben, that means it's slightly longer than the 03/04's then and not quite as small as I thought, it's hard judging size from photos when you are not familier with the prototype. Given the good design of the 03/04 - in which I presume Colin Allbright would have been involved - I would hazard a guess it will turn out quite desirable in both the looks and running departments. Izzy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold scottystitch Posted January 29, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2017 This is a welcome announcement. I will need to try and find when ESSO used these, as potentially I could take at least one to go with the fleet of ESSO Class Bs we all hope will be produced. I'm sure I'll take a second, to commemorate the 50th anniversary, and put it in the display case. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-CRS Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 ECC seem to have used the 0-4-0 version of these. Does anyone have any pictures of a 0-6-0 version in ECC livery ideally from 80s to early 90s? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gelboy45 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Congratulations Ben I think this loco is a really excellent choice. Would it be possible to design this so that there aren't large holes to accommodate the couplers or at least an optional fill-in for anyone planning to use the Kadee type? - I hope that makes sense........ Regards Gerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted January 29, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 29, 2017 Hello Gerry, The coupler will have a NEM pocket to enable members to switch out the Rapido type for a Dapol Easishunt, or any other NEM compatible type they might wish. In order to function there has to be an aperure in the bufferbeam, but the models will be suppplied with a panel to cover this for those who wish to display the models with full bufferbeam details or find alternative coupler solutions. Unless you have another suggestion to achieve this? Cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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