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At last Mallaig finally test run and ballasted. I even found what I was doing wrong with the lights and now these are working. Depending on how dry the ballast is this morning, I may be able to get a first coat of paint on the track. 

 

I celebrated by by running an engineers train!

 

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1 minute ago, young37215 said:

At last Mallaig finally test run and ballasted. I even found what I was doing wrong with the lights and now these are working. Depending on how dry the ballast is this morning, I may be able to get a first coat of paint on the track. 

 

I celebrated by by running an engineers train!

 

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And I see you are already mocking up the oil terminal with your glue bottle!

All looking great

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David

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23 hours ago, young37215 said:

Hi Ian

 

Weights are from Road and Rails, the attached link takes you to what I bought

 

https://www.roads-and-rails.co.uk/collections/accessories/products/five-strips-of-model-railway-weights

 

I agree that it is easier than cutting lead although I have a supply of scrap lead being the offcuts of a recent job I had done on my roof. I used the lead to weight the OWV's and found it easy enough to cut to get to the 10g I wanted. The Roads and Rails weights have the benefit of a sticky pad which makes them perfect for the underside of a wagon. 

 

 

 I also get mine from a local tyre fitters - I do use them regularly for various projects. The ones I have come in strips with alternating 5g and 10g weights on double sided adhesive foam. I also use a rather expensive product call Liquid Gravity by Deluxe Materials (also known as Liquid Lead by other brands) which is a fine grade shot made from some type of lead-substitute available at many craft and model shops. I find this is really good for pouring into the underside of wagons that have the chassis framework moulded in - you then just as a few drops of very thin cyanoacrylate to set it in place. Great for N gauge wagons !

 

 

 

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The glue did not fully dry overnight and as I spent the day fine tuning the ballasted area which involved more glue, it was still damp last night. I managed to add the base of the oil terminal, a simple affair made of an off cut of baseboard and Wills coarse stone as a wall. I am still pondering oil tanks, as David identified yesterday, the glue bottles are acting as a proxy in between use. Not a lot to show for several hours work but hopefully the fine tuning will pay a dividend with the finished station. 

 

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Yesterday was all about painting. A bottle of Railmatch sleeper grime was airbrushed over the track and surrounds. My intention is to add some colour variation once everything is dry and the platform walls are built up. 

 

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7 hours ago, young37215 said:

Yesterday was all about painting. A bottle of Railmatch sleeper grime was airbrushed over the track and surrounds. My intention is to add some colour variation once everything is dry and the platform walls are built up. 

 

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Rob,

 

Any particular reason why you weathered the track after ballasting? I was under the impression that ballasting was done after rail/sleeper weathering ...

 

I'm probably the only one who doesn't know, but whats' that short bit of track near the 'fuel' area?

 

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 I think a picture provides a better answer than words to answer Ian 's (ISW) question. The short bit of track by the oil terminal platform was connected to the adjoining siding but I do not have sufficient space to include the point hence just my token piece of track. I deviated from the usual approach of weathering track prior to ballasting in an effort to achieve the dilapidated and dirty appearance that typified a secondary BR station in the early 1980's. 

 

37114 at Mallaig

 

A fiddly day yesterday spent constructing the platform walls and the taller wall to the seaward side of the platform that attempted to protect passengers from the Atlantic breeze!. By the end of the day I was nearly finished and hope that today I can complete the platform walls and start on the platform itself. 

 

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Less progress than I hoped for yesterday, a combination of too much sport on the TV and uncertainty over the sizes of the oil tanks to fit into to my available space. I did complete the platform walls and add a plywood backscene to the rear of the section. The backscene crystallises the space into which the 6 storage tanks of varying sizes have to fit and what additional scenery can be incorporated.

 

Having spent the day testing various options I anticipate my version of Mallaig only having 5 storage tanks made up of the 2 main vertical tanks and 3 smaller horizontal tanks. I have yet to decide precisely how to model the tanks, I hope that I can use some off cuts of different diameter plumbers pipe scrounged from a builder friend and the remnants of an existing oil terminal pipe work as a low cost option. My fall back is a combination of the Knightwing range of tanks although without seeing these in the flesh it is difficult to judge which kits to choose.

 

Provided the glue used to secure the platform walls has fully hardened over night, I will amke a start on getting the platform laid today.  

 

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Looking good Rob. Tankswise the Knightwing range has a few different kits in it but it looks to me that each kit uses the same tank section. While a perfectly adequate representation of the oil depot could be built all of the tanks would be of the same diameter. I'm happy to be corrected on this but after much studying this is how it appears to me. The Knightwing kit that I built I used all the tank sections. One could of course use less or more sections to build shorter or longer tanks to give variety. You may also find that your friend has a decent variety of offcuts to pick and choose from.

 

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I created 4 storage tanks from pipe off cuts, 2 vertical at 120 x 68mm and 2 horizontal at 100 x 40. Placed in situ to get a feel, they look somewhere close to the reality. I will add plasticard to create the top and spray them light grey. With some pipework and ladders they should do the job.

 

I intend adding 1 further tank in the gap, this was slightly smaller requiring something in the region of 80 x 30. Still searching for a solution on this.

 

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Rob,

 

I recently came across the following photo in the December 1999 issue of Modern Railways. I thought it might make an interesting train to add to your layout.

 

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11 hours ago, ISW said:

Rob,

 

I recently came across the following photo in the December 1999 issue of Modern Railways. I thought it might make an interesting train to add to your layout.

 

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Ian

 

 

I would love to run a Royal Scotsman but the consist in the picture is not the correct one for my era. Your picture shows the second consist that first ran in 1989, the first consist started running in 1985 comprising some wonderful old rolling stock as seen in the picture below. Unfortunately there are no obvious proprietary models available to model them and the work that scratch building or converting is beyond my budget or competence.  

 

Amongst the Mountains

 

An issue with the Mallaig platform lights slowed progress yesterday, having thought I had found the answer to making the LEDs work I attempted to create a BUS to power them. The first light was connected to the BUS and worked, connecting the second LED caused everything to stop and I am still trying to find out what I have done wrong.

 

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Hi,

I remember the original Royal Scotsman train well when it used to visit Oban on its tour schedule,  Although never allowed on-board I used to marvel at the decor of the interiors of the coaches, especially the dining set!  Made our standard service trains look like what they really were, grotty!  When the Sprinters first appeared everyone thought it was the dawn of a new age of rail travel to Glasgow, however it wasn't long before the failings of the Sprinters became apparent and we wished we could have our old trains back, grotty as they were!

 

Roja

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16 minutes ago, 37Oban said:

Hi,

I remember the original Royal Scotsman train well when it used to visit Oban on its tour schedule,  Although never allowed on-board I used to marvel at the decor of the interiors of the coaches, especially the dining set!  Made our standard service trains look like what they really were, grotty!  When the Sprinters first appeared everyone thought it was the dawn of a new age of rail travel to Glasgow, however it wasn't long before the failings of the Sprinters became apparent and we wished we could have our old trains back, grotty as they were!

 

Roja

 

I don't mind the Sprinters . Introduced 30 years ago ......Eeek!  Agree a proper train would be good though . I do wonder if Scotrail are missing a trick here . Sprinterisation brings benefits , but could they not run a loco hauled train to Oban at least once a day . Say ex Glasgow 8am and returning ex Oban 5pm. Imagine a proper train maybe 5 or 6 coaches with brakes for all the hikers and cyclists . Giving them time at Oban but also Loch Lomond , Tyndrum, Dalmally for Glen Orchy , Taynuilt, Connell . Lots of spectacular scenery on the doorstep.  Head it with a 37 and you get the enthusiast market too.  The Jacobite and the Staycation express on the S&C are successful , so maybe it could work here.

 

I am aware that Scotrail are introducing 153s for Cyclists initially on the Oban route . This means that trains will no longer split at Crianlarich  because platforms on route are not large enough to cope with 4 cars to FW and 3 to Oban so they will have to run at least one specific train to Oban a day anyway.

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Hi Legend,

 

like you, I don't mind Sprinters, but in the right place.  When introduced onto the Oban line they replaced 3 coach sets in winter, 6 coach sets in summer, with just 2 coaches all year with limited luggage accommodation!  This didn't go down well with some of the locals, who used Oban and Glasgow for major shopping expeditions, not say the tourists, cyclists and hikers with all their gear.  Groups of cyclists and hikers took to finding alternative means of transport, and in the meantime Scotrail ignored passengers concerned whilst stating that passenger numbers didn't warrant longer or extra trains!  Eventually, though, they saw at least a partial light and increased the service to 5 trains a day, which helped spread the passengers but the services connecting with the island ferries can still be a bit of a squeeze, even with advanced booking, and didn't really improve the situation for cyclists and hikers.

 

Now Scotrail has seen some more light and the converted 153's are due in service next summer, although I've read one or two people already complaining about their layout!  There's just no pleasing some people!

 

I agree with you about using a 37, or even a 27, on a tourist special, and I also think it would work.  Yes, the Sprinters are, fairly, efficient, but they don't compare to a 37, 6 on, growling up Glen Cruiten or at full chat along the Clyde!  I'd be first in the queue for a ticket or three!

 

Roja

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One of the biggest weaknesses of the modern railway is the inflexibility to respond effectively to seasonal changes in demand. The WHL is a classic example, two 6 coach loco hauled sets for summer use would likely meet with an increase in passenger numbers and get a number of vehicles off of the roads but, it seems, there is no appetite for this sort of flexibiility. It will be interesting to see if one of the charter operators builds on the apparent success of the S&C trains that ran earlier this year. Like others I would dearly love to spend a day or two being loco hauled on the WHL once again. 

 

Although I moved forward a little yesterday, I am still struggling with the platform lights where it appears I am reaping the dividend for buying cheap Chinese LED's. The problem has been narrowed down to one of the lights or, more likely, the resistors. Until I get these working as I want it will not be sensible to glue the platform to the platform walls although I did cut the plasticard to rough shape in anticipation of sorting the lights. Once glued down I will file the edges of the platform to enable rolling stock to pass without fouling and paint a line of coping stones.

 

The airbrush got another outing and a coat of frame dirt was applied to the newly ballasted areas and oversprayed elsewhere in an effort to create some tonal differences. Personally my colour sight is so poor I cannot see any difference but my wife who acts as a colour consultant, tells me that there are subtle differences. The track was then cleaned up and vacumed clear to enable the running of trains again. 

 

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10 hours ago, young37215 said:

One of the biggest weaknesses of the modern railway is the inflexibility to respond effectively to seasonal changes in demand. The WHL is a classic example, two 6 coach loco hauled sets for summer use would likely meet with an increase in passenger numbers and get a number of vehicles off of the roads but, it seems, there is no appetite for this sort of flexibiility. It will be interesting to see if one of the charter operators builds on the apparent success of the S&C trains that ran earlier this year. Like others I would dearly love to spend a day or two being loco hauled on the WHL once again. 

 

Although I moved forward a little yesterday, I am still struggling with the platform lights where it appears I am reaping the dividend for buying cheap Chinese LED's. The problem has been narrowed down to one of the lights or, more likely, the resistors. Until I get these working as I want it will not be sensible to glue the platform to the platform walls although I did cut the plasticard to rough shape in anticipation of sorting the lights. Once glued down I will file the edges of the platform to enable rolling stock to pass without fouling and paint a line of coping stones.

 

The airbrush got another outing and a coat of frame dirt was applied to the newly ballasted areas and oversprayed elsewhere in an effort to create some tonal differences. Personally my colour sight is so poor I cannot see any difference but my wife who acts as a colour consultant, tells me that there are subtle differences. The track was then cleaned up and vacumed clear to enable the running of trains again. 

 

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Hi,

 

I have been really enjoying following the (rapid!) construction of your layout. I travelled on the Jacobite many years ago and I think you are really capturing the atmosphere of the real thing.

 

I have a quick question if you don't mind... I really like you how you weather your track using an airbrush. I'd like to do the same but I am not sure what sort of paint to use. Thinning down Humbrol enamels would seem to be a very long-winded way of doing it and could produce variable results if the dilution is not always the same. I was therefore wondering if you could tell me what sort of paint you use in your airbrush please?

 

Thanks!

 

Ben

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17 hours ago, benjy14 said:

I really like you how you weather your track using an airbrush. I'd like to do the same but I am not sure what sort of paint to use. Thinning down Humbrol enamels would seem to be a very long-winded way of doing it and could produce variable results if the dilution is not always the same. I was therefore wondering if you could tell me what sort of paint you use in your airbrush please?

 

Hi Ben

 

Thank you for the kind words. Weathering track with an airbrush is very straightforward and, based upon my experience, a useful way to learn about an airbrush. Ordinarily I weather track before I ballast, with Mallaig I wanted a different feel to the area hence weathering after ballasting. I am still relatively inexperienced at using an airbrush, I only bought mine 3 years ago. I have weathered several sections on WHL4 using thinned Railmatch enamel paints. Mostly it is sleeper grime, occassionally frame dirt and weathered black. I thin the paint to about 60/40 paint to thinners and stir vigorously to mix it up. The 60/40 split is an imprecise measurement, all the books I have read tell you that the consistency of the paint after thinning is how you judge it ready for spraying. If the paint runs of the stirring tool easily then I find it is ready. 

 

There are plenty of tales on RMWeb from others who use different paints such as Humbrol, it is a case of personal choice as to which paint you use. The one thing in common is that to be effective with an airbrush you need to thin your paint. Your comment about thinning suggests you are not clear on this, I suggest that you make up some thinned paint and trial it on some old offcuts of track to see the results you get. Do'nt worry about tonal variations, you actually need these because the real railway is not all the same colour. Worst case if you do'nt like an outcome is to overspray the area with a different colour.

 

Give it a try, it is very straightforward. In the time it has taken me to type this I could have sprayed a panel or two of track.

 

Good luck

 

 

 

 

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After what seems like forever I managed to get the 6 platform lights installed and working at Mallaig. The lights are the best representation I could find of those at Mallaig in the 1980's and even then required minor tweaks and repainting. Today I aim to glue the remain parts of the platform and finish guaging which should see the platform complete. 

 

First light is glued in place

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All installed, the last 3 still need gluing hence they are a little wobbly

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Guaging of the platforms begins

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On 18/11/2020 at 00:08, 03060 said:

Rob, have you seen the Heljan news for the Mexican Bean class 104 to be released ? Which might be just at the edge of your timeframe.

 

Hi Ian

 

Sorry I missed your post until this morning. I was blissfully ignorant of Heljans planned class 104, I am more interested in their ETHEL and a replacement for my old Hornby model at present. The Mexican Bean will be an interesting, colourful addition but its not very high up my priority list because on WHL4 it would only shuttle between the fiddle yard and Crianlarich limiting its operational potential.  

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