Alcanman Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) Just been catching up with your layout. Great work! This is certainly helping to revive my interest in the WHL, it's great to see your steam heat 37s, several of which, I have photos. Here's one of them, 37022 at Oban, August 1984 I'm hoping to have some Eastfiled 37s on my new layout soon. Mal Edited September 9, 2018 by Alcanman 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold young37215 Posted September 9, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 9, 2018 Just been catching up with your layout. Great work! This is certainly helping to revive my interest in the WHL, it's great to see your steam heat 37s, several of which, I have photos. Here's one of them, 37022 at Oban, August 1984 37022 at Oban August 1984 - 2 (2).jpg I'm hoping to have some Eastfiled 37s on my new layout soon. Mal Another cracking picture that stirs the memory. I also have 022 on WHL4, albeit mine still has her bufferbeam skirts and has yet to receive a headlight. You cannot have too many Eastfield 37's on a layout! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) I also noted 37264 on your layout. I saw this loco several times during the last week of August 1984 by which time it had been painted in LL Blue. Edited September 10, 2018 by Alcanman 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold young37215 Posted September 11, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 11, 2018 I also noted 37264 on your layout. I saw this loco several times during the last week of August 1984 by which time it had been painted in LL Blue. 37264 at Oban.jpg 37264 at Oban with ETHEL and, I guess, Mk3 stock probably on Sunday 26th August 1984 with a additional Merrymaker service to Edinburgh. I think this was the only time 37264 did the Merrymaker, 37081 was the usual loco on the Merrymaker in 1983 and 84. I never managed to travel on the Merrymaker but happy days. With Oxford Rail's impending Mk3 release in blue and grey plus Bachmans DBSO, there will be a temptation to model the Merrymaker! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold young37215 Posted September 14, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 14, 2018 The glazing on several coach windows misted up which I guess to be a reaction to the superglue used to secure the passengers. I cannot make my mind up if this is a reasonable reflection of the condensation produced by steam heating or if I should clean the glazing and so I have left the windows misted for the time being. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISW Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 The glazing on several coach windows misted up which I guess to be a reaction to the superglue used to secure the passengers. I cannot make my mind up if this is a reasonable reflection of the condensation produced by steam heating or if I should clean the glazing and so I have left the windows misted for the time being. That's an unfortunate 'reaction' on the glazing. It is 'permanent' or is there a chance it might come off? Myself, I've installed flush glazing (SE Finecast type) onto a large number of old Lima coaches (Mk.I & Mk.II) without any issues on the glazing itself. I used 'plastic magic' as the glue, not superglue though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Scottish Modeller Posted September 14, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 14, 2018 The glazing on several coach windows misted up which I guess to be a reaction to the superglue used to secure the passengers. I cannot make my mind up if this is a reasonable reflection of the condensation produced by steam heating or if I should clean the glazing and so I have left the windows misted for the time being. Final coach renumber 015.JPG Final coach renumber 016.JPG Hi there, If I get superglue misting on the glazing I use a coat of Klear to remove it. Works as long as it's just mist. If you have superglue itself on the glazing it's not going to resolve it. Thnaks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold young37215 Posted September 15, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 15, 2018 I am confident that no superglue got on the window glazing which means that it is the fumes/vapour that caused the misting. I have not yet tried to remove the misting because I think that it resembles the condensation caused by steam heating. If I change my mind then I will find out if it is removable! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustered Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 It looks like I remember! Best wishes Nige Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold young37215 Posted October 1, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 1, 2018 It has been a frustrating couple of weeks with problems showing up with derailments and point motors. The derailments appear due to my replacement of tension lock couplings with brass loops which seems to have been cured by reverting to tension locks. These do nothing for realism and prevent the use of the Bachmann snow ploughs. Nevertheless if they mean that I get less derailments I can live with them. 37027 seen first with brass loop and detailing then with tension lock replacing the brass loop. Only 1 brass hoop remains which is on 37039 seen below at Arrochar and where the glue is so strong that I fear damaging the bufferbeam if I remove it. The point motor issue seems to have been resolved by the insertion of the small screw that is part of the servo motor pack. In hindsight, I was silly not to have inserted this at the outset. The screw needs to be fully tightened into the servo so as to avoid fouling the wire that connects to the point tie bar. It is not easy doing this whilst led on my back underneath the layout; I wish I had done it before attaching the servos to the underside of the baseboard! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold young37215 Posted October 6, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 6, 2018 (edited) Today I am at the GWSR for their autumn diesel event. It’s a chilly day meaning that 6948’s boiler is getting a welcome work out. From the attached pictures, I have satisfied myself that the misting on some of my coaches does give an acceptable representation of the condensation caused by steam heat. If only my phone would not rotate the pictures ! Edited October 6, 2018 by young37215 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold young37215 Posted October 14, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 14, 2018 (edited) Crianlarich has had its track weathered at last using an air brush loaded with Railmatch sleeper grime. The resulting track looks much improved but I managed to dislodge several of the connections between the servo and point tie bar which is proving a pain in the rear to resolve. Before After Repairs to the point motors are on going! Edited October 15, 2018 by young37215 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold young37215 Posted October 18, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 18, 2018 Most of the point motor problems at Crianlarich have been resolved although I fear that I have fried a Servo Controller in my efforts. I am back to running trains again to ensure that everything still works and so far, so good. My next task is to build up the surrounding hilly areas around Crianlarich and to integrate these into the backscene which I will be painting by hand. A new boy puts in an appearance, 37012 Loch Rannoch with white stripe is a recent purchase. A sound chip has been fitted but a base reflex speaker is required to improve the sound output. 37012 brings a southbound freight into Crianlarich. 37049 arrives at Arrochar with the northbound sleeper 37012 arrives at Garelochead on its journey south 37049 arrives at Crianlarich 37049 awaits departure from Crianlarich 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISW Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Most of the point motor problems at Crianlarich have been resolved although I fear that I have fried a Servo Controller in my efforts. Sorry to hear about the MegaPoints controller problem(s). Any ideas of how it happened? Too much voltage to the board or a stray bare wire touching the board? I was under the impression that the boards are quite 'robust' under 'normal' operation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold young37215 Posted October 20, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 20, 2018 Sorry to hear about the MegaPoints controller problem(s). Any ideas of how it happened? Too much voltage to the board or a stray bare wire touching the board? I was under the impression that the boards are quite 'robust' under 'normal' operation. The servo controllers in particular and the Megapoints system in general have been robust over the 12 months I have used them. The problem arose as I attempted to re-attach a servo to the controller whilst the controller was under power from its usual regulated 12v source. There was a small electrical flash and a smell of electrical burning which caused me to drop the servo cable. It is 50/50 as to whether I miss-threaded the servo when connecting it to the controller and caused a short; it all happened so quickly I cannot be sure. The board has been sent back to Megapoints for investigation. Whatever the outcome, I will not attempt to connect anything to the controller whilst it is powered again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISW Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 The servo controllers in particular and the Megapoints system in general have been robust over the 12 months I have used them. The problem arose as I attempted to re-attach a servo to the controller whilst the controller was under power from its usual regulated 12v source. There was a small electrical flash and a smell of electrical burning which caused me to drop the servo cable. It is 50/50 as to whether I miss-threaded the servo when connecting it to the controller and caused a short; it all happened so quickly I cannot be sure. The board has been sent back to Megapoints for investigation. Whatever the outcome, I will not attempt to connect anything to the controller whilst it is powered again. I too have been connecting / disconnecting servos with the board powered. Maybe I'd better stop that practice! My only concern is powering cycling electronics is also not considered god practice. Rocks and hard places come to mind ... Are your servos fitted with the PCB (black plastic) plugs? If so, I can't see how you could get a short from it, unless there were some 'stray' threads of wire about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold young37215 Posted October 22, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 22, 2018 I too have been connecting / disconnecting servos with the board powered. Maybe I'd better stop that practice! My only concern is powering cycling electronics is also not considered god practice. Rocks and hard places come to mind ... Are your servos fitted with the PCB (black plastic) plugs? If so, I can't see how you could get a short from it, unless there were some 'stray' threads of wire about? My servos are standard Hobyking reference HK 15178 which are PCB fitted and the offending servo works fine when connected to a different Servo Controller. I share your view that it is hard to see how I could cause a short this way. However Dave Fenton has confirmed the damage as being a fried voltage regulator which he describes as the Servo Controllers first line of defence. He will not speculate on likely causes. Long and the short is I will never know what happened for certain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ISW Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 My servos are standard Hobyking reference HK 15178 which are PCB fitted and the offending servo works fine when connected to a different Servo Controller. I share your view that it is hard to see how I could cause a short this way. However Dave Fenton has confirmed the damage as being a fried voltage regulator which he describes as the Servo Controllers first line of defence. He will not speculate on likely causes. Long and the short is I will never know what happened for certain. I really do need to keep an eye on this one. I'm also using HK-15178 servos with the PCB plugs .... Thanks for sharing your problems, it may prove useful to me in the future! In the meantime I'll be using the OFF/ON swtich on the power supply a little more frequently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold young37215 Posted November 8, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 8, 2018 I have always liked the Sealink livery that Scotrail applied to several Mark 1's used on services between Glasgow and Stranraer and recently got over excited on Ebay with the outcome being 3 Bachmann coaches in Sealink livery. I am not aware that these ever worked on the WHL but using Rule 1, I recreated an Ayr to Oban adex from the 1984 holiday season which freed up a pair of class 20's from the Ayrshire coalfields to work the service. Adex awaiting the road at Garelochead, 20184 leads 20045 Departing Garelochead Approaching Arrochar Held outside Arrochar Departing Arrochar 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold young37215 Posted November 30, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 30, 2018 Having spent time running trains to prove the electrics, I want to move on with the scenery at Crianlarich. My first step was to glue the track to the baseboard using PVA which was then ballasted and fixed in place with the traditional water diluted PVA. Further ballast will be added to fill in gaps once I have laid the point rodding and around the base of the platform once this has been fixed in place and fully guage tested. Geoscenics N guage brown ballast creates a good impression of that typically found on the WHL. Despite being N guage, the individual ballast pieces look large in the pictures and will also will need weathering once fully laid. Wills point rodding placed alongside the southbound platform. The run is in excess of 2m making it an expensive exercise but one that I think will pay a dividend in terms of how the finished station will look. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Great work and you've captured the colour of West Highland line ballast very well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BoD Posted November 30, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 30, 2018 Great work and you've captured the colour of West Highland line ballast very well. Agreed. I can't see any brown ballast on the geoscenics website. Is that what they are calling Red ballast? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold young37215 Posted November 30, 2018 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 30, 2018 Agreed. I can't see any brown ballast on the geoscenics website. Is that what they are calling Red ballast? Yes it is, Geoscenics Red N (product code BU N Ballast) 1kg. £12.00 http://www.geoscenics.co.uk/railway.html Colours are not my strong point! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BoD Posted November 30, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 30, 2018 Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phixer64 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Hiya, been closely following this thread, with much interest, as I also model the Scottish diesels upto large logo.Excellent work, on everything so far, and the ballasting looks good; Like the odd tuffs, can see this developing into something special. Keep up the great work. Regards Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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