two tone green Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 No idea. Brit arrives in June. See post above yours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Sorry didnt see that first time around.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I don’t see the odd mm height difference either. Too busy enjoying myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Clark Trains Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Afternoon all,Good news! The Mk1 Set As in Maroon livery are now in stock.We will also have a few BSK, CK and SK coaches available separately.For anyone with a pre-order, Paddy will be on the phone this afternoon/tomorrow morning to put everything through.Images and details available here: https://www.ellisclarktrains.co.uk/...uge-mk1-coaches-set-a-4-coaches-maroon-liveryWhat do we think?Cheers,Ellis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyo Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Gentlemen, Thank you for your comments. 1. Re coach height. Can Class 27 please measure exactly hoe much our coach is higher than he diesel loco in the picture ? As the buffers line up it would look like our body does not have the correct dimensions but all body dimensions have been taken from the Parkin book. So this is a mystery. If he coach height offends then I could simply make a new set of springs for the C/W bogies so the whole caach will come down accordingly but then he buffers will be lower too. Are we sure that Heljan got it right ? Cheers, Andries Hello Andries, this may have been posted before and I have missed it, but here goes. All of these heights are from the rail head (top of the rail). 12'41/2" to the top of the roof 86.63mm in 7mm scale, 4'01/4" to the bottom of the body 28.15mm in 7mm scale, 3'51/2" to the C/L of the buffers 24.2mm in 7mm scale, 8'41/4" from the bottom of the body to top of the roof 58.48mm in 7mm scale. This is worked out thus 86.63 - 28.15 = 58.48mm. All the sizes are from the Parkin book on Mk1s. It has been posted before that your coaches are between 91 & 90mm high that works out at 4.37mm (71/2") Max. or 3.37mm (53/4") Min. too high. Also the CW bogies look too square around the edges of the castings when you look at this photo. Also the transom beams go to the ends of the coach. HTH OzzyO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airport2010 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Dear Phil, Thank you for your post. That is resolved then, I will make the decals pronto. Cheers, Andries Hi AndriesHow are these pesky decals coming along then? Cheers Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darstaed Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Dear Phil, We will do the decals with the next batch. The next lot is winging their way to the UK and included are teh Gangway end shiels, one pair for each BSK which means 2 pairs for each Set A. Please contact Ellis Clark or Bob Whyat of Scalelink, Cheers, Andries Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airport2010 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Dear Phil, We will do the decals with the next batch. The next lot is winging their way to the UK and included are teh Gangway end shiels, one pair for each BSK which means 2 pairs for each Set A. Please contact Ellis Clark or Bob Whyat of Scalelink, Cheers, Andries Thanks AndriesYour positive attitude is very encouraging. I’m planning on acquiring around another dozen or so Mk1 vehicles (mainly SK/CK) along with a BG or two. I would have thought about holding back to see what Dapol eventually produce had you been evasive or disinterested in resolving these issues, but I’ll happily commit to Darstaed going forward! Regards Phil 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike B Posted June 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 13, 2018 Having read through this thread in its entirety, it's very encouraging that a manufacturer takes feedback from customers very seriously, and I take my hat off to Andries for not only responding, but making sure that where possible, any errors can be corrected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted June 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 13, 2018 A question for the Mk1 experts. Much has been made of the better effort that Darstaed have made on the shape of the carriage sides than Heljan did (well, Heljan did not really make an effort with those flat sides). Some seem to think that the forthcoming Dapol coaches are better again. But do all Mk1s have the same profile? I was, briefly, at Williton on the West Somerset last Monday. The first coach of the 7-coach train seemed to have a much flatter profile to its sides than the rest of the rake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold markjj Posted June 13, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 13, 2018 The only Mark 1 to have a flatter profile to my knowledge was the GUV so it may not be a Mark 1 but I stand corrected if I'm wrong.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltic17 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 A question for the Mk1 experts. Much has been made of the better effort that Darstaed have made on the shape of the carriage sides than Heljan did (well, Heljan did not really make an effort with those flat sides). Some seem to think that the forthcoming Dapol coaches are better again. But do all Mk1s have the same profile? I was, briefly, at Williton on the West Somerset last Monday. The first coach of the 7-coach train seemed to have a much flatter profile to its sides than the rest of the rake. I have sometimes wondered this when looking at certain photographs. Whilst they should no doubt be the same I just if there are some small differences out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dan Randall Posted June 14, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 14, 2018 (edited) do all Mk1s have the same profile? I was, briefly, at Williton on the West Somerset last Monday. The first coach of the 7-coach train seemed to have a much flatter profile to its sides than the rest of the rake.The standard Mk1 body profile is a continuous curve, but Doncaster works built 3083, a prototype open first, featuring lots of windows and flat sides, with a distinct tumblehome at the bottom. It was preserved and based on the SVR for many years, but whether it's now based at (or just visiting), the WSR, I couldn't say. I found this rather nice picture of it at Kidderminster, SVR.... https://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4695/39727840351_2688c4671a_b.jpg&imgrefurl=https://hiveminer.com/Tags/firstopen%2Cmk1&h=686&w=1024&tbnid=O_J0L46_fo6-7M&tbnh=184&tbnw=274&usg=__IPtEK8a5D2g1XU2iBfBNw96AMQ0=&docid=T0-lpLB8K7VwIM The unusual body profile is plain to see, especially when compared with the standard Mk1 it's coupled to. Regards Dan Edited June 14, 2018 by Dan Randall 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyWales Posted June 14, 2018 Author Share Posted June 14, 2018 Hi all I started this topic when Darstaed anounced the range, and quite some time has since passed.... the range are no longer 'on the horizon'. To prevent new readers being confused when they see the topic, I have changed the header to simply read....Darstaed Mk1 coaches for 7mm. regards Randall 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted June 14, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 14, 2018 (edited) The standard Mk1 body profile is a continuous curve, but Doncaster works built 3083, a prototype open first, featuring lots of windows and flat sides, with a distinct tumblehome at the bottom. It was preserved and based on the SVR for many years, but whether it's now based at (or just visiting), the WSR, I couldn't say. I found this rather nice picture of it at Kidderminster, SVR.... https://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4695/39727840351_2688c4671a_b.jpg&imgrefurl=https://hiveminer.com/Tags/firstopen%2Cmk1&h=686&w=1024&tbnid=O_J0L46_fo6-7M&tbnh=184&tbnw=274&usg=__IPtEK8a5D2g1XU2iBfBNw96AMQ0=&docid=T0-lpLB8K7VwIM The unusual body profile is plain to see, especially when compared with the standard Mk1 it's coupled to. Regards Dan That FO is probably my favourite Mk1 coach. I had not noticed that it has a different profile. Whatever was heading up that rake was not an FO (and certainly not a GUV). Being honest, the most disappointing aspect of the otherwise excellent WSR is the rather shabby Mk1s. They need a thorough overhaul. Edited June 14, 2018 by Joseph_Pestell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 That FO is probably my favourite Mk1 coach. I had not noticed that it has a different profile. Whatever was heading up that rake was not an FO (and certainly not a GUV). Being honest, the most disappointing aspect of the otherwise excellent WSR is the rather shabby Mk1s. They need a thorough overhaul. A couple of photos of its early days at the SVR as it came out of traffic c45 years ago http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/svr/e3131aefa http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/svr/e399f8444 Paul 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class27 Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Does anyone know if the gangway covers and screw couplings have arrived yet? I have tried to contact Ellis Clark twice by e-mail, but no reply, possibly a problem with their contact forms All information gratefully received Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 My gangway covers showed up without asking well over a month ago. No idea about screw couplings. Don’t use them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class27 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 TTG did you buy through Ellis Clark or another supplier? I bought my coaches at Model Rail Scotland in Feb, So I may have slipped through the net as a customer cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
two tone green Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 I got mine from Scalelink. I havd set A plus another SK plus two TSO’s and waiting on a set B with the catering coaches in it. All in blood and custard. Nice rake of ten. Will add a BG possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class27 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Thanks for the info I will Phone Ellis Clark this week and find out what's what Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted August 12, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 12, 2018 A couple of photos of its early days at the SVR as it came out of traffic c45 years ago http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/svr/e3131aefa http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/svr/e399f8444 Paul I'm thinking, with some regret, that it is probably about then that I saw it at the SVR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CME and Bottlewasher Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Anyone know anything about the Suburban stock? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class27 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Quick update As I purchased at a show there was no address details for me A phone call today has got my gangway ends on their way Good work from Ellis Clark 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airport2010 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Gentlemen, Re coach height : I also measured two of the coaches under production, a B/G and a Maroon one. The B/G is 0.8 mm higher than the Maroon coach not only at the roof top but also at the buffers. What I will do is make new springs for the C/W bogie that are 0.8 mm shorter so the B/G coaches are the same height as all the other coaches that have BR MK1 bogies. Would it be possible for some one to take some measurements of the Heljan diesel locos and measure he height of the roof and height of the centre of the buffers taken from the top of the rail ? Cheers, Andries Hi Andries It’s been quite some time since any comments have been posted on here ref the Mk1 coaches, in particular with regard to height above rail. I’ve been regularly running my rake of 7 vehicles at a club layout and am completely delighted with their running qualities. They have been much admired by many folk, and really do reflect well on Darstaed. However they ARE a little on the high side as has been been commented by others. I have 12 locos from JLTRT, Dapol and Heljan, and all are the same (correct) height. The coaches are higher than all the locos, so the height issue is not due to Heljan being too low in my view. You have previously mentioned that you’re looking at offering shorter springs on a complimentary basis to any folk who want to lower their vehicles, so I’m just enquiring as to progress with this modification? Lowering the vehicles will really finish off the rake nicely. Look forward to hearing back. Kind regards Phil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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