jimmysbow Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Hello Can anyone help with the following please. I am building 2 Quad Art sets. My plan is to build one set (composite) in weathered teak livery, this set is progressing well. The other set (all third) I would like to finish in the wartime brown livery LNER stock was painted in at this time. What I would like to know is what the best paint match to replicate this Wartime brown colour? Thanks in advance John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Never heard of a wartime Brown livery, as far as I am aware they remained in varnished Teak. Pre grouping Coaches were painted Teak Brown when in poor condition or when not originally built in Teak wood. I use Precision Phoenix paints Teak shade for pre grouping Coaches and CCT etc type vehicles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Perhaps you are thinking of LMS. Starting about 1940, NPCS that would, before the war, have been finished in Crimson Lake were painted "Lake" which was kind of a bauxite colour. Lake, in happier times, was used as an undercoat for Crimson Lake. However, mainline coaching stock still carried the normal livery although it probably got pretty neglected. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 ...The other set (all third) I would like to finish in the wartime brown livery LNER stock was painted in at this time... With the caution already mentioned, that this is probably a fiction, as these sets were in varnished teak until overpainted in BR ownership; it would be the same 'teak brown' that you will require to paint solebars, headstocks and wheel centres on your varnished teak set. Harris has this as similar to BS 490 'Beech Brown', the Phoenix paint already mentioned the best bet. Harris also records that in November 1941, the decision was taken that underframes were to be all black as a wartime economy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Am I not right in thinking that the GE part of the LNER used a brown paint up to nationalisation, and that this might be what John is thinking of? In which case, which would be the best paint for that? Anthony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 That was general LNER policy: any pre-group coaching stock not of varnished teak construction, or if teak bodied so deteriorated as to be no longer capable of being made of good appearance by varnishing; would be painted 'teak brown'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmysbow Posted February 14, 2017 Author Share Posted February 14, 2017 Hello Many thanks to you all for taking the time to help me out with plenty of helpful info and also put right some misconceptions i had regarding LNER carraige liveries at this time. My original idea was to have the 2 quad art sets in contrasting finishes for my chosen time period of 1939 to 1949. The set that is progressing at the moment is in a fairly beaten up weathered teak so I think the other set can go in a slightly more "factory fresh" teak finish (but not too fresh) Thanks John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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