RMweb Gold Roy Langridge Posted February 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2017 To put it into context, there are only about 1200 DRS models in the entire country (Excluding the DRS limited edition) and that to cover all three variants, (DCC ready, fitted and sound) Demand was always going to far exceed supply, irrespective of the faults, whether real or perceived I agree that it will be popular - I just hope that everything selling out doesn't lead Dapol to believe that there is no need to correct the problems with it. It looks a cracking engine and I look forward to my Scotrail version arriving. Not quite sure what the "perceived" problems are - I have not seen any problems quoted for which evidence is not abundantly evident. Some, like the white spots on the Scotrail version do not need to be corrected in my opinion as it is so minor, other more major errors need to be remedied for future models. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Midland Mole Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) Well the DRS livery issue is fairly obvious when you look at the model in the flesh. Still, it has not stopped them selling like mad though as we have just sold the last of our DRS ones. Alex Edited February 17, 2017 by Midland Mole Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) Not quite sure what the "perceived" problems are - I have not seen any problems quoted for which evidence is not abundantly evident. The livery error is definitely incorrect on one side of the DRS-liveried versions. The images below show it fairly clearly. The DRS Compass is correctly possitioned but the background "shoosh" is incorrect. It should be centred but it looks like it has been dragged over the left. The right-hand cab-side is almost solid blue and has virtually none of the green "swoosh" on it. The livery on the DRS 68s is not identical on each side. One possibility is that Dapol drew up one set of artwork (assuming both sides were identical) and then dragged it off-centre on one side to keep the compass logo in the correct position relative to the side grills. Whether this is a deal-breaker or not is up to the individual modeler. Given that this livery has apparently sold out, I would guess not. Edited February 17, 2017 by Karhedron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted February 17, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 17, 2017 I think I'm drowning in blue coloured, 68 tasting and dcc sounding froth......... I'll pick up my two on Sunday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielson's shay no 3 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 I have just fitted mine with sound and a bass reflex speaker oh my god it's so tight in there but it sounds awesome 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted February 17, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 17, 2017 Having now seen one, I have to say the yellow used for the warning panels looks pretty good. Perhaps Dapol could use this yellow in future on its Class 23, 52 and 73 locos...please. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrel Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Having read all the comments about the livery error on the DRS version which the photos above show quite clearly and the glue overspill from the nameplates I was a little anxious when my scotrail livery 68007 arrived today. However I had nothing to worry about. The livery looks great the nameplates are great. While there has been much comment about the livery error there has been little comment made about how good the actual model is. The detail is excellent, it looks like a class 68 I have not been able to find fault with it. It's a contender for model of the year. I had been tempted to order a second class 68 in DRS livery as well. But I will wait till they sort the livery error. But it's a brilliant model. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CazRail Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Reveived mine today, and I'm really impressed! Not letting the livery error on it bother me, so have to say superb work, Dapol! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandg Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 I find the biggest difference is 'warmth' of the loco if that makes sense. They will run faster on warm days (if layout is outside of house/in loft) or after say running for about 10-15 mins every session the loco will be a bit faster once warmed up. I have never found that running in generally improves the speed of the loco itself. The temperature where my layout is located is only around 10C so I ran the loco for about 15 minutes in each direction at moderate speed (40 -50 m.p.h.) to warm it up . There was certainly an improvement in the maximum speed.. Hauling just the Speedwagon it achieved 106 m.p.h. and when the same three coaches as per the previous test were added it managed 97 m.p.h. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 So no interest in buying a 68 but if they are selling out despite a number of issues then Dapol must have overall done a good job. I was a little spooked by Big Jim's pictures as it appears to have real bug eyes, I swear the thing's eyes were following me around the room. It's easy to knock any model, there are always going to be some shortcomings but it seems to be most people are happy purchasing it. Now where is my GW railcar Dapol, you've done the 68. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bensanchez43310 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Still waiting for Kernow to ship my DRS 68 pair, anyone experienced similar problems with obtaining DRS 68's from Kernow? Ben Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Scottish-Exile Posted February 17, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 17, 2017 Still waiting for Kernow to ship my DRS 68 pair, anyone experienced similar problems with obtaining DRS 68's from Kernow? Ben Their weekly mailing list today said they've only received part of their order, and were hoping for the rest either later today or Monday. They just listed the Chiltern one as being available on their mailing list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick G Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 My 68005 fitted with Biff's sound chip. two lighting effects photographed, normal head lights and 'Halo' lights only. Some subtle weathering tomorrow. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bensanchez43310 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Their weekly mailing list today said they've only received part of their order, and were hoping for the rest either later today or Monday. They just listed the Chiltern one as being available on their mailing list. Thanks for this info mate! Ben Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted February 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2017 I thought 68005 was familiar, it was the first one I had a ride on as 'stock rider' in an IM job back in June Nice little bonus for me as that's the one I got today 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony566 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 I am hoping that 68005 arrives tomorrow as im not sure when 68002 is coming ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
english electric Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 in regards to the error, it did not put me off purchasing the loco and end of the day you only see one side of the loco at a time and today i purchased my 2nd drs one so i now have 68002 and 68005 and ill just have them the same way round as each other and you will never tell that way. Dapol may have made a small error with the swoosh but the end of the day they have produced a craking loco with exellent detail and good running etc and this modern world likes picking faults and it could be a lot worse than it is , it could have been vitrains / lima who produced it not Dapol 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris37422 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Be Careful what you read and say online http://Dapol.co.uk/index.php?route=blog/post&post_id=40 Tragic post IMO However got my first 68 today and I'm really pleased with it, top quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ely_South Posted February 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 17, 2017 I thought 68005 was familiar, it was the first one I had a ride on as 'stock rider' in an IM job back in June Nice little bonus for me as that's the one I got today Aha - Great stuff. So it's okay to add one of these: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanspareil Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 I wonder if any more of the first batch locos will follow or if that's it? I don't think there was much doubt the DRS livery variants were going to be anything but popular. Most will have ordered/pre-ordered before any awareness of any issues. I don't think the 73's sold anywhere near as fast (despite retailer predictions to me they would). I guess its a tricky game predicting but to see pretty much all main traders sell out of the DCC ready DRS models within a few days (before any of the big shows coming up) suggests Dapol seriously underestimated demand. Maybe real sales figures of the 73 were used to predict the 68 production levels? Who knows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick G Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 I don't think there was much doubt the DRS livery variants were going to be anything but popular. DRS livery seems very popular at the moment so it was bound to be a winner. Has anyone actually bought the Scotrail livery version yet, not seen much feedback or photos of those? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robf Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) Not a Scotrail but another DRS version, 68002 Intrepid. It does look rather good, I'm pleased. DSCF0555 by [urluess.https://www.flickr.com/photos/68980550@N03/]robfrowen[/url], on Flickr DSCF0554 by robfrowen, on Flickr One question. I'm using a 6 Function decoder. I can independently control the lights on the end with the coupling via F1 and F2 but not at the cowling end, the headlights and tail lights are just directional. I guess it's to do with the positioning of the switches inside? A bit more fiddling I guess. Edited February 17, 2017 by robf 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_R Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) My 68005 arrived today and opening the box was with more than a little trepidation! What greeted me was an almost absolutely 'perfect' model with no visual glue marks, misplaced name plates, paint defects. running was flawless - perfect apart from that glaring totally inexcusable livery error. How can Dapol get is so wrong when the obvious level research that has gone into producing such an almost perfect model. I was tempted originally to try and get hold of the DRS 68001 limited edition but decided that paying £200 for a limited edition DRS loco from DRS themselves who quote as part of the specification "Finely printed and highly detailed graphics" but no mention that some of the graphics are actually incorrect but they do show the graphics error on their website picture. Sorry Dapol a fantastic loco spoilt by a that silly stupid error. $65k question - am I sending it back because of the error - no, like many others I will have to live with it........that is unless someone like Railtec can come to the rescue with a set of shaped transfer overlays, now there is a challenge! Edited February 17, 2017 by Martin_R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Midland Mole Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) Since when I started at the shop, I have never seen a product sell so fast! We had our stock come in at 10am yesterday morning, and by 3:45pm we were down to our last one of each of the DRS ones....and today we sold those. While we have sold a couple of the Scotrail and Chiltern ones, the DRS livery has been the real winner. Livery & nameplate issues aside, people are definitely seeing the quality of this stunning model. Alex Edited February 17, 2017 by Midland Mole 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWT442 Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 My pair arrived Thursday just as I was heading out the door to work that afternoon, so only got to play with them this evening. First impressions, it is a vey nice model indeed! I had read about the wonky plates and yellow ends before I opened them but thankfully, I've got none of these issues. They've both had a quick run around the layout to make sure everything is ok. Straight from the box they are very smooth and quiet, most new stuff seems to have a slight gear train whine from new but not these! As nice as they are, the DRS one is a bit of a let down with it's misprinted livery. Considering the frequent delays in the models being released to ensure the complex livery is just right, it seems completely mad for them to all be sent out with one side totally off centre! I'm guessing QC had a day off when these passed through. It would be nice for a new batch of bodies to be produced with this issue rectified. But as it stands, I can live with this silly issue. Another thing which would've been nice is the detailing bag containing a full valance and pipework. As I don't use the standard tension locks on locos, it would be nice to have both ends fully detailed. Again, not an issue that's the end of the world. Anyway, here's a few pics: A light weathering will be done to the pair. Also, anybody know if anyone is doing some "Oxford Flyer" plates for 68010? Andy. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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