Monkey28 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) It looks like the second batch as it has the revised circuit board without the copper wire Could the marks be from taking the body off and putting it back again and is the white residue grease? Also the wheels have the brake disks fitted I don't think the first batch had these fitted Hope this helps Edited January 17, 2018 by Monkey28 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davy crockett Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 This is the 1st issue with the extra copper wire and no disc on wheels 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEOEng03 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 This is the 1st issue with the extra copper wire and no disc on wheels IMG_4773.JPGIMG_4774.JPG Thanks for this! I see that your chassis is much the same with the marking as well. Wasn't aware of the copper wire being there. Pictures help massively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 18, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 18, 2018 Thanks for this! I see that your chassis is much the same with the marking as well. Wasn't aware of the copper wire being there. Pictures help massively. Yours is definitely a second batch chassis in your photos.The marking is glue residue from behind the grille mouldings. The giveaway are two transistors marked T1 and T2. (There were two transistors fitted as part of the modification with the copper wires). This board incorporates them rather than as a modification. Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Tony, thanks for your reply. I think that the transistors are there to switch on the halos via logic outputs from the decoder, and that the pcb is wired for ESU decoders such as yours or the Loksound V4. A Zimo 644D will only drive the halos if the transistors are bypassed as described by John Gymer of YouChoos. Not sure I want to go this route; your experience is pointing me to ESU! Anyone from Dapol care to comment! The Standard Decoder fitted by Dapol is a Legomanbiffo Sound Fitted ESU V4 21Pin Decoder. Charlie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davy crockett Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 On the subject of the early 68s with the extra copper wire on the PCB, I have now seen two locos with running problems, both had the copper wire trapped under the chip causing short, so be careful when fitting or removing decoders or blanking plates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEOEng03 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Yours is definitely a second batch chassis in your photos.The marking is glue residue from behind the grille mouldings. The giveaway are two transistors marked T1 and T2. (There were two transistors fitted as part of the modification with the copper wires). This board incorporates them rather than as a modification. Cheers, Mick Cheers Mick. It was returned as not working on DCC by the buyer. Just didn't remember the chassis being in such a state! He had said that he had tried the correct chip for lighting and it was dead. I plugged a Gaugemaster decoder in and hey presto works fine. Think I have just been messed about by it not being wanted. Have started to fall out with eBay over the loss of postage, given the item is working, they of course are as useless as you'd expect. I had asked he try another chip, but he didn't have one, but assured it was the loco and not the chip, think we have all had chips that just do not like a loco sometimes! Will keep it now. Take it as a lesson on the pitfuls of eBay... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon_H Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Cheers Mick. It was returned as not working on DCC by the buyer. Just didn't remember the chassis being in such a state! He had said that he had tried the correct chip for lighting and it was dead. I plugged a Gaugemaster decoder in and hey presto works fine. Think I have just been messed about by it not being wanted. Have started to fall out with eBay over the loss of postage, given the item is working, they of course are as useless as you'd expect. I had asked he try another chip, but he didn't have one, but assured it was the loco and not the chip, think we have all had chips that just do not like a loco sometimes! Will keep it now. Take it as a lesson on the pitfuls of eBay... I dipped into buying and selling on Facebook for A while and that proved just as challenging. I now firmly stay away from both evil bay and Feb buying and selling. It’s not worth the hassle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan product fan Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Finally got my imperium decoder today and add it to my 68 great decoder good control of the lights just dissapointed you cant turn the cab lights off with it apart from the switch under the body. the photo was taken without lights on but with f3 pressed . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielson's shay no 3 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Finally got my imperium decoder today IMG_1305.JPG and add it to my 68 IMG_1307.JPG great decoder good control of the lights just dissapointed you cant turn the cab lights off with it apart from the switch under the body. the photo was taken without lights on but with f3 pressed . Is that lightbleed from the headlights on the cabside Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan product fan Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 No i think its from the lamp i used as a light source but light bleeds from the top spotlight were the aircon box is on the cab roof i know its not on in the pic but its noticeable when the loco is running and the spots are on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon_H Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 You can see the cast of a shadow from the lamp in the back scene. If that was light bleed It would be one of the worst I’ve seen! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_l_jones Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 What's the general consensus of the sound fitted models. I've only heard one but thought it to be a bit muffled ? Thinking about purchasing a 68008.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Note that this is only my own opinion. Based on HD videos, the 68s have a delightful throb, quite unlike the ying ying of the, er, Ying-Yings. I’ve watched You Tube videos of three sound projects and I wouldn’t be entirely happy with any of them. Possibly the best is YouChoos but the throb seems to be overlaid with other sounds. I’m waiting to see if any other sound projects emerge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
classy52 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) What's the general consensus of the sound fitted models. I've only heard one but thought it to be a bit muffled ? Thinking about purchasing a 68008.... Note that this is only my own opinion. Based on HD videos, the 68s have a delightful throb, quite unlike the ying ying of the, er, Ying-Yings. I’ve watched You Tube videos of three sound projects and I wouldn’t be entirely happy with any of them. Possibly the best is YouChoos but the throb seems to be overlaid with other sounds. I’m waiting to see if any other sound projects emerge. Have a listen to this 68 on the Watermills Yard YT channel where he uses YouChoos sound file on a Zimo MX644D wired to a Zimo LS 55x22x09 Double Dumbo speaker that apparently slots straight into the speaker enclosure, for me this is just about the best one I've heard even compared to the 2 I have running with the Dapol installed DCC Sound. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xAdwV3Ejek Edited February 4, 2018 by classy52 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dvt Dweller Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Does anyone know what this is? https://www.dccsupplies.com/item-p-113157/close-coupling-kit-for-class-68-oo.htm They seem to have the tightlock couplings and the spring plate as separate items and I wouldn’t have thought the plastic bar with the NEM socket would count as a ‘kit’. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan product fan Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) just my opinion but legomans sounds with his em2 speaker for me gives the best base sound of the locos but i dont like the idear of chopping the chassis to fit one in for me the most real Edited February 5, 2018 by vulcan product fan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Have a listen to this 68 on the Watermills Yard YT channel where he uses YouChoos sound file on a Zimo MX644D wired to a Zimo LS 55x22x09 Double Dumbo speaker that apparently slots straight into the speaker enclosure, for me this is just about the best one I've heard even compared to the 2 I have running with the Dapol installed DCC Sound. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xAdwV3Ejek Granted that YouChoos is probably the best but on the other hand, listen to these. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ispphmxtH7U Small speakers can’t reproduce that deep throb of the 68s but there seem to be high-pitched sounds superimposed on the throb in the sound project. I don’t think even the YouChoos’ quite captures the sound, even allowing for necessarily small speakers. This is YouChoos’ own project page, which contains a link to the recording. http://www.youchoos.co.uk/Index-Shop.php?L1=Project&Item=Class68 At 2' 15" onwards, the throb is captured very well but with a high-pitched hiss interfering with it. That assumes that the sound-only recording is of the project and not the real thing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 just my opinion but legomans sounds with his em2 speaker for me gives the best base sound of the locos but i dont like the idear of chopping the chassis to fit one in for me the most real The speakers in that clip are producing a superb deep sound but, to my ears (possibly odd), it just doesn’t sound like a 68. Sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dvt Dweller Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 This is YouChoos’ own project page, which contains a link to the recording. http://www.youchoos.co.uk/Index-Shop.php?L1=Project&Item=Class68 At 2' 15" onwards, the throb is captured very well but with a high-pitched hiss interfering with it. That assumes that the sound-only recording is of the project and not the real thing! Possibly trying to recreate the whine of the traction motors? It’s the one thing that is very distinctive when your right behind the locos but seems to be missing to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRDBLUE17 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Hi Bifs sound files IMHO capture the 68’s perfectly and I see or hear them quite often on the ECS moves. Having heard the EM2 fitted model that Steve fitted its one of the most impressive sound fitted models I’ve heard although you do need to mill the chassis. I fitted the base reflex which is an easy fit to mine and it’s perfect for home use. Charlie also had one fitted with another larger speaker he stocks which I’ve fitted to a 56 before which although doesn’t create the really deep base it is just as loud as the EM2 and captures the top notes really well too so there are a few options that work well. All the best Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulcan product fan Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Is that lightbleed from the headlights on the cabside Had the 68s running today and this is were i was talking about the light bleed on the roof near the aircon units are . but also took this photo with no light behind me and there is some serious light bleed on the cab of the loco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon_H Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Did any one buy one of the Chiltern sound 68s? The volume on mine is very loud, but I have no idea where I find the list of CVs and what they can be set to and change! TIA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey28 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 CV 63 to change the volume Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon_H Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 CV 63 to change the volume Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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