Andrew P Posted October 22, 2017 Author Share Posted October 22, 2017 Time for some more pics of the 22 doing some Shunting I think. 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 (edited) Then there was the shepherd who found a load of sheep poo in his wellingtons. Someone had it in for him. Edited October 22, 2017 by coachmann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 (edited) If you are going to start running North British 22's, you need to blacken your rails and chairs. The West Country was famous for it after the oil spillers arrived. Edited October 22, 2017 by coachmann 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted October 22, 2017 Author Share Posted October 22, 2017 If you are going to start running North British 22's, you need to blacken your rails and chairs. The West Country was famous for it after the oil spillers arrived. Hence the Oily puddles in the Yard then Larry, hahha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 In that case, Bachmann have put the hinges on the wrong way up Kevin, on Pencarne I had the same gate mounted on the wall and working. I would have to say yes they have, it's one of those things I see everywhere. Even the gate on my son's new house was wrong and was sagging but as soon as I added a counterbrace (the other way) it was fine. This is the best picture I have found to show the correct way - It's all to do with the triangulation and pushing the load down onto the hinge which in turn is fixed to the post so static So ends building tip 48. I wonder have many people will now look outside to see if theirs are fitted right.....????? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted October 22, 2017 Author Share Posted October 22, 2017 (edited) I would have to say yes they have, it's one of those things I see everywhere. Even the gate on my son's new house was wrong and was sagging but as soon as I added a counterbrace (the other way) it was fine. This is the best picture I have found to show the correct way - 1446564399245.jpg It's all to do with the triangulation and pushing the load down onto the hinge which in turn is fixed to the post so static So ends building tip 48. I wonder have many people will now look outside to see if theirs are fitted right.....????? Yes your right, I have built a few myself, I've just been out to look at our new one we had fitted earlier this year and its as below! Edited October 22, 2017 by Andrew P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 The bottom half is supporting the top half, ideally the top brace should follow the bottom one but I suspect it's a gate designed to be hinged either side. So all you do is keep the hinged side and turn it upside down to be hung from the other side. Amazing what we have veered off into.........how are your sheep? I think I will be buying some of those myself especially as they appear to do lambs as well..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulgabill Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Yes your right, I have built a few myself, I've just been out to look at our new one we had fitted earlier this year and its as below! GATE.png Therefore we can tell it's new. Loco shed doors would have been braced Z over Z 'cos they were old school correct! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted October 22, 2017 Author Share Posted October 22, 2017 The bottom half is supporting the top half, ideally the top brace should follow the bottom one but I suspect it's a gate designed to be hinged either side. So all you do is keep the hinged side and turn it upside down to be hung from the other side. Amazing what we have veered off into.........how are your sheep? I think I will be buying some of those myself especially as they appear to do lambs as well..... Yes a unitfit Gate and some nice leaping Lambs in the packs Kevin. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andrew P Posted October 22, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2017 O,K. back to Loco and running pics from this morning. 23 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyram Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Lots of great pics Andy - nice to see more progress and some pictures from the other masterpiece that was Pencarne. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dbr1295 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Hi Andy, I especially like the second picture in the last set of the Cl24 & train. The way its leaning into the curve and the angle the photo's taken from. Very much like photos of the real railway. Looking really good. Cheers, Les Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 Lots of great pics Andy - nice to see more progress and some pictures from the other masterpiece that was Pencarne. Thanks Andy, It was good to look at Pen again, and I found some Ideas that I'd used on Pen and forgotten about. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 Hi Andy, I especially like the second picture in the last set of the Cl24 & train. The way its leaning into the curve and the angle the photo's taken from. Very much like photos of the real railway. Looking really good. Cheers, Les Thanks Les, the camber of the Rail isn't much, but just enough to be effective visually, and was well worth doing. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Bogie Posted October 23, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 23, 2017 I think one of your cows is dead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andrew P Posted October 23, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2017 O.K. lets start Page 100 with a quick summery of where I am with the Build. Dore End Station, laid but still needs populating and detailing, The Village, needs populating and Gardens, The fixed Distant Signal and Embankment are done, The Canal Section is ready for detailing The Embankment is done,along with the Point Rodding, The Fields are done, but still need detailing, The Yard is done but will need detailing, The Road is in but needs detailing, The top Fields are almost finished, Road disappearing done, but needs detailing, North Signal Box and Point Rodding is all in place, Farm Track done and finished, Goods Yard laid, but needs detailing, Kings Moreton Station area still needs to be done, Fiddle Yard Entrance needs thinking about, And Much Dithering needs doing eventually, 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerburnie Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Excellent progress, you wouldn't want it all done, would you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 I think one of your cows is dead. Your right mate, I removed the post you've referred to but please leave yours in place otherwise it will mess up this page, hahah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted October 23, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 23, 2017 Hi Andy, Superb work on the pictures - totally agree with selling them or prints - this time next year you could be a millionaire!! Layout is looking superb too .. hopefully this week somepoint I’ll find time to have a catch up with you! Glad to hear your enjoying the layout and running sessions. Rich 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 Hi Andy, Superb work on the pictures - totally agree with selling them or prints - this time next year you could be a millionaire!! Layout is looking superb too .. hopefully this week somepoint I’ll find time to have a catch up with you! Glad to hear your enjoying the layout and running sessions. Rich That would be good to have a catch up mate, we are away from 4th Nov for 10 day to escape the worst of the Fireworks, although they have already started around here, so all you'll get here is the House sitter, haha. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spotlc Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Pictures look great and the yard works well, especially when viewed from a distance taking the whole area in. but could I be a tiny bit picky..........the large yard gate leading into the yard is upside down - the brace should go the other way to provide the triangulation support - sorry it's just one's of those things I notice. Not strictly true, you are confusing a ledged and braced door design with a diagonally braced horizontal gate. Although the braces of a vertically hung door do indeed point inwards from the top of the shutting stile to the hanging stile, and are therefore in compression, a crossing gate is a very different thing. Here, the wooden braces are diagonal, and serve only to ensure the dimensional integrity of the gate - the weight of the gate is carried at the hanging stile by massive cast iron hinges, and at the shutting stile by a wrought iron bar which runs from there, back to either the top of the hanging stile, or more often, to the gate post itself, which carries a separate pivot for this support bar, which of course, is in tension: This is a derivative of the traditional wooden five barred gate shown here: and is designed to cope with the enormous weight of crossing gates, especially when only a single leaf is used, as in the first photo. Regards, Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spotlc Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Not sure where the pictures went! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 Not strictly true, you are confusing a ledged and braced door design with a diagonally braced horizontal gate. Although the braces of a vertically hung door do indeed point inwards from the top of the shutting stile to the hanging stile, and are therefore in compression, a crossing gate is a very different thing. Here, the wooden braces are diagonal, and serve only to ensure the dimensional integrity of the gate - the weight of the gate is carried at the hanging stile by massive cast iron hinges, and at the shutting stile by a wrought iron bar which runs from there, back to either the top of the hanging stile, or more often, to the gate post itself, which carries a separate pivot for this support bar, which of course, is in tension: crossing gate.jpg This is a derivative of the traditional wooden five barred gate shown here: five bar gate.jpg and is designed to cope with the enormous weight of crossing gates, especially when only a single leaf is used, as in the first photo. Regards, Mike Not sure where the pictures went! Thanks, I did wonder, hahha, very good info. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted October 23, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 23, 2017 Not strictly true, you are confusing a ledged and braced door design with a diagonally braced horizontal gate. Although the braces of a vertically hung door do indeed point inwards from the top of the shutting stile to the hanging stile, and are therefore in compression, a crossing gate is a very different thing. Here, the wooden braces are diagonal, and serve only to ensure the dimensional integrity of the gate - the weight of the gate is carried at the hanging stile by massive cast iron hinges, and at the shutting stile by a wrought iron bar which runs from there, back to either the top of the hanging stile, or more often, to the gate post itself, which carries a separate pivot for this support bar, which of course, is in tension: crossing gate.jpg This is a derivative of the traditional wooden five barred gate shown here: five bar gate.jpg and is designed to cope with the enormous weight of crossing gates, especially when only a single leaf is used, as in the first photo. Regards, Mike Mike, I think that you and Kevin (KNP) are talking about different gates - in your case the level crossing gate and in his the gate into the dairy yard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 Mike, I think that you and Kevin (KNP) are talking about different gates - in your case the level crossing gate and in his the gate into the dairy yard. Yes the discussion started with comments about the Goods Yard gate, the same as the Dairy Gate I used on Pencarne. SORRY TO CONFUSE. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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