BernardTPM Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 Yes, across the front panels. This brochure picture probably shows it best. As so often 'flat' panels are actually large radius. The faceting only applies to the area below the windscreen. Both the windscreen and the front edge of the roof are a gentle curve. The best picture I've found for that is this one, the green cab tilted forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-CRS Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, BernardTPM said: Yes, across the front panels. This brochure picture probably shows it best. As so often 'flat' panels are actually large radius. The faceting only applies to the area below the windscreen. Both the windscreen and the front edge of the roof are a gentle curve. The best picture I've found for that is this one, the green cab tilted forward. Thank you, I'll send some notes to the designer this evening, that is hard to see. I thought it was flat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Tricky-CRS said: This weeks line up of test prints The Ford Cargo need a few mods The 1948-1954 Commer Superpoise I have not spotted anything yet. Hi Richard, A nice range growing there. A couple of Cargo variations that may be worth looking into if you're wanting more. (Pics linked from Flickr) A tractor unit, perhaps with the deeper bumper often seen on them? And a 7.5 tonner with the smaller wheels, dead common in delivery fleets such as Royal Mail, and hire fleets too, as well as people like BT. Common with box bodies, dropside variants seemed to be used for road works, garden contractors etc. Hope that's of interest Jo Edited June 20, 2021 by Steadfast 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-CRS Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 48 minutes ago, Steadfast said: Hi Richard, A nice range growing there. A couple of Cargo variations that may be worth looking into if you're wanting more. (Pics linked from Flickr) A tractor unit, perhaps with the deeper bumper often seen on them? And a 7.5 tonner with the smaller wheels, dead common in delivery fleets such as Royal Mail, and hire fleets too, as well as people like BT. Common with box bodies, dropside variants seemed to be used for road works, garden contractors etc. Hope that's of interest Jo Excellent pics, I'll add them to the futures list the current list is fixed now. If this project is a success I want to return to some of the models and do more versions and the Ford Cargo is high on that list as I have found lots of great ideas. At the moment I have a limited budget so need to limit the varieties and move on to cover other eras. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 @Tricky-CRS Totally understandable approach, and for its era, the Ford Cargo is a fantastic choice! The most obscure one I've ever seen is as the base of a road-rail tamper! For the 90s / early 2000s, the IVECO EuroCargo may be a useful future model, as it was effectively the mk2 version and could share a number of bodies and chassis that you already have designed. Jo 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trewisin Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Hi Richard ,very interesting you have been busy this week,as Jo said there is a lot of potential in the Ford Cargo era pf vehicles. Didnt Dornaplus do a Ford Cargo in their plastic kits ,as well as the Thorneycroft 1920/30s lorries. I like the added version of your Commer range . Regards Ray. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Oddly the Dornaplus Ford Cargo is 1:160 scale. As it comes in parts although the front is moulded flat it is possible to reshape it during assembly. The roof is too long fore and aft though as there are effectively two front edges, one moulded on the leading edge of the doors (which I removed) and one each side of the front screen. After assembly I filed in the slight taper towards the top edge. It was after doing this and thinking it looked a bit small that I measured it and dicovered it wasn't British N. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted June 21, 2021 Author Share Posted June 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Trewisin said: Didnt Dornaplus do a Ford Cargo in their plastic kits ,as well as the Thorneycroft 1920/30s lorries. Yep, well they called it a Ford Cargo and, as Bernard has mentioned, was the wrong scale. Axel's Bazar currently do a 1:148 scale 3D printed Ford Cargo box van available from Shapeways: https://www.shapeways.com/product/THP8QCYWH/ford-cargo-box-truck-1981-1-148?optionId=196481166&li=marketplace which is a lot better. Here's my two (one with a scratch built open back body as a scaffold truck): 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trewisin Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Thanks grahame and Bernie thats what I thought that they were under sized a bit I have a few in my make up box. Regarsa Ray. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted June 22, 2021 Author Share Posted June 22, 2021 I've finally got around to getting some colour and grubbiness on the Osborn's road sweeper/gulley cleaner TK truck. Still needs glazing, number plates, etc., (and perhaps a wash): 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trewisin Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) Hi. Grahame I like your road sweeper it looks realy smart. I was in WH smiths at lunch time and picked up a Magazine on Vehicles I cant remember the title but it had a picture on the front of it of a Sulters Heavy Scammell Truck. There was a very good article inside on Bedford TK's. Just for fun try this one it came on my google news page today. https;//www.bbc/com/news/entertainment-arts-57513965.amp. I wonder homuch Petrol this tanker holds? also there is a special edition of a Transit van how about medelling this in N scale your thoughts Regards Ray. Edited June 22, 2021 by Trewisin correction for coneection to bbc web Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Harvey Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 @Trewisin I think this link to the Tanker and Transit will work better. https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-57513965.amp 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trewisin Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Thanks Mike .Im not used to this forwarding info yet im just trying it out suck it and see.Did you like it?Ray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted June 23, 2021 Author Share Posted June 23, 2021 (edited) . . . and now some colour on the Osborn's 3D printed Bedford TK tipper . . . . although it need the tyres painting, glazing, number plates, etc., . . . and one thing that is missing from the models - the turn indicator lights that stick out from the sides like little ears. Edited June 23, 2021 by grahame 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Morgan Posted June 23, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 23, 2021 The original 'Jupiter' anyone? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahame Posted June 23, 2021 Author Share Posted June 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ian Morgan said: The original 'Jupiter' anyone? That's obviously styled on a TK and it's got a flat windscreen . . . . . so maybe, possibly, perhaps, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 The Fireman Sam engine seems to be based on this style where just part of the front panel is used, hence different windscreen and side doors. An earlier version had two flat windows. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
javlinfaw7 Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 TK fire engines can be obvious or nearly unidentifiable 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trewisin Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 The Engine in fireman Sam looks more like the TJ previous version of the TK .Gurnsey Fire Brigade had one. Grahame your tipper version looks good rather posh paint scheme for a tipper truck. Regards Ray. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 4 hours ago, Trewisin said: The Engine in fireman Sam looks more like the TJ previous version of the TK .Gurnsey Fire Brigade had one. But the TJ has a bonnet. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
javlinfaw7 Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 New render of Iveco ford that is being test printed by Mike at Osborn's shown on ngauge@groups.io today 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-CRS Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 On 20/06/2021 at 18:32, BernardTPM said: Yes, across the front panels. This brochure picture probably shows it best. As so often 'flat' panels are actually large radius. The faceting only applies to the area below the windscreen. Both the windscreen and the front edge of the roof are a gentle curve. The best picture I've found for that is this one, the green cab tilted forward. This is has taken alot of attempts to get to this point, really struggling to explain this to the designer. I think this looks okay, but what is your thoughts, not printed it yet. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 That's pretty close, though I'm not convinced the 'curved facets*' are there, but the general curve is probably close enough, so that would be a reasonable compomise. The front bumper should match the shape though and there shouldn't be that peak over the front of the roof. The roof also has recessed ribs in the pattern shown here (flashing lights not standard, of course!) Note the straight join line between the curved front section (I assume pressed with the front windscreen surround in real life) and the main cab roof. There are also air-deflectors (similar purpose to those on HST roofs) on each leading corner, outboard of the headlight/grille area, the idea being to create a barrier layer of air so that road dirt can't reach the wing mirrors above them. Said wing mirrors are attached to the doors so where they are shown is OK. * this can be a hard thing to explain, but the most obvious example would be a 50p coin where each of the 'sides' isn't flat, yet meets the next one at an angle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-CRS Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 Another 1950 Commer, the Superpoise 4 in this range all based on pictures. 1: 25cwt Van 2: Box Van with roof vents 3: Break down truck 4: Light car transporter 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-CRS Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 1 hour ago, BernardTPM said: That's pretty close, though I'm not convinced the 'curved facets*' are there, but the general curve is probably close enough, so that would be a reasonable compomise. The front bumper should match the shape though and there shouldn't be that peak over the front of the roof. The roof also has recessed ribs in the pattern shown here (flashing lights not standard, of course!) Note the straight join line between the curved front section (I assume pressed with the front windscreen surround in real life) and the main cab roof. There are also air-deflectors (similar purpose to those on HST roofs) on each leading corner, outboard of the headlight/grille area, the idea being to create a barrier layer of air so that road dirt can't reach the wing mirrors above them. Said wing mirrors are attached to the doors so where they are shown is OK. * this can be a hard thing to explain, but the most obvious example would be a 50p coin where each of the 'sides' isn't flat, yet meets the next one at an angle. I have sent it back with my thoughts, yours (quoted) and my interpretation of yours, the light on top is because this is the tipper cab, but once this is right it will be the base for the rest. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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