RMweb Premium Legend Posted January 7, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2018 Don't know why they cut all them triangles out of the bridge sides, would have been stronger as a tubular bridge. Maybe too heavy to handle. I’d have had side walls too to prevent it dropping in water if it does derail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted January 7, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2018 I enjoyed it. SHMBO who doesn't like railways ended up glued to to the TV watching it with interest. Well done to all those who volunteered to get involved with it. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 2mmMark Posted January 7, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 7, 2018 I stand by my comments, this is how I saw the show and I think I am entitled to my opinion (or is this Forum going to cement its past reputation of supressing such dissention). Yes I did post the same observations on multiple forums and RMweb is the only one where my comments have been met with outright hostility, so you are probably correct in your observations, There is however an old saying - "to see yourself as other see us" Jim If you call people a "bunch of prats", it's not surprising you get a hostile reaction. In football parlance, play the ball and not the man. Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 The only thing that worried me was the extent of Dick Strawbridges facial hair..... If it continues to grow at that rate he will end up featuring on Sir David's programme on the other channel. Geoff Endacott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 ...and I must admit that Hadrian's idea to move the traction tyres from the wheels to the rails seemed quite inspired. It might even catch on. Geoff Endacott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR8700 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) So far - predictably cringe worthy, bunch of prats claiming their 15 mins of fame. Not even using real model track It's a bit like the apprentice with even more annoying individuals Jim I spent the last hour watching it and I think there's only one person acting like a prat here... I really enjoyed it, a great way of trying to introduce model railways to more people. I look forward to next week. Well done guys! Edited January 7, 2018 by GWR8700 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordon s Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I have to say I enjoyed the whole programme. It was fun trying to identify the various RMwebbers......:-) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted January 7, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) Maybe too heavy to handle. I’d have had side walls too to prevent it dropping in water if it does derail No need for side walls - no way the loco would fit through the holes. I thought part 1 was well made. Even Mrs NB who has only the slightest interest in trains - full size or model - liked the programme. Cheers, Mick Edited January 7, 2018 by newbryford 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 If you call people a "bunch of prats", it's not surprising you get a hostile reaction. In football parlance, play the ball and not the man. Mark Why did I read that in the voice of Count Arthur Strong? Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Alex TM Posted January 7, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2018 So far - predictably cringe worthy, bunch of prats claiming their 15 mins of fame. Not even using real model track It's a bit like the apprentice with even more annoying individuals Jim Hi everyone, Just watched this, after my sister pointed the programme out to me. Jim, I have to disagree with you - Sir Alan and co are far more irritating! The programme led to my wife (not a modeller or rail enthusiast) asking lots of questions about railways and engineering - I would regard this as a plus. Although I disagree with Jim, I would uphold his right and freedom to disagree with my comments too! Honesty and right to free expression make this forum a force for good. Regards, Alex. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I watched the first episode and was quite intrigued. I’m not a tremendous fan of Dick The Tash’s presenting style, TBH I thought the programme production values generally lacked “polish” but it did all look rather fun, for a given value of “fun”.. The larger scale, prefabricated track and self-propelled locomotive all seemed like sensible choices. The RAMS (Risk Assessment and Method Statement) seemed a bit deficient, if the “teasers” for the truss bridge and the ferry are any guide... I’ll certainly be following this next week... the David Attenborough one is on iplayer, so I’ll watch that later.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted January 7, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 7, 2018 I thought it was fab. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayneTrain Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Don't know why they cut all them triangles out of the bridge sides, would have been stronger as a tubular bridge. As the muggins that had to cut the triangles out, it was for lightness. Additionally, we didn’t have enough wood for a tubular bridge sadly, that was one of our initial ideas. For the sake of the tv show they also wanted to be able to see the loco crossing the canal, rather than popping into a tube one end, and out the other!! originally the truss was designed to be the other way up, but this was it was stronger. We didn’t have enough material for the cross members which would have made that way up viable. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted January 7, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 7, 2018 Great programme. Well done to everyone involved Looking forward to next week's already. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isambard Kingdom Brunel Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I watched David Attenborough during the adverts. It was a pity that programmes about my two interests of model railways and prehistoric animals clashed after little of interest for me for the last two weeks on television.Yoi could have watched the Little Railway on Channel 4 + 1 if you dont have a recording facility or catch up TV Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Yoi could have watched the Little Railway on Channel 4 + 1 if you dont have a recording facility or catch up TV Given the sheer quantity and frequency of repeats, there’s no real reason to miss anything you want to see, given only that you can hack a path through the endless soap operas and 80s sitcoms which have such a hypnotic attraction for my good wife... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenny Emily Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Yoi could have watched the Little Railway on Channel 4 + 1 if you dont have a recording facility or catch up TV It is also on 4OD online so can be watched on a computer or digibox pretty much any time over the next couple of weeks. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NittenDormer Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I missed the start. Why are life jackets needed for working on dry ground? I cycled along the Crinan Canal in summer - should we have been wearing them? Health and safety gone mad, I tell ye. Why, when I were a lad.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
idd15 Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Really enjoyed it and again well done to all on here who took part. Looking forward to next week. Memo to self, must start saving now for a Roundhouse loco! idd 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific231G Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) So far - predictably cringe worthy, bunch of prats claiming their 15 mins of fame. Not even using real model track It's a bit like the apprentice with even more annoying individuals Jim Funnily enough, with one or two exceptions, I found it remarkably free of cringeworthyness and it was a far better and more enjoyable programme than I'd feared and far better than the James May Tarka trail programmes of which it wasn't a clone. Congatulations to all those here who took part. I know that Jenny Emily and Payne Train did but I gather there were others as well. I did have one or two niggles. I don't like it when presenters are given authorship of the work of others; I could be wrong but I rather doubt whether Dick Strawbridge personally surveyed the route or chose the gauge and the motive power and "we" would have been more honest than "I" . Also, it wasn't a line that the Victorians couldn't build; had there been enough people and goods needing to get between Fort William and Inverness they clearly would have built it (and Dr. Beeching would have closed it) Those reservations apart I thought the programme had a good mixture of challenges that were put far more into their real world context than most do. It was good to have a more rounded picture of Thomas Bouch's engineering career and an explanation of the lattice truss girder. Best of all I think the programmes will help understanding of both railway modelling and, more importantly, of engineering. We need to attract more young people and especially young women into engineering but I've long suspected that the national prejudices that leave our particularly well rounded hobby* regarded as "geeky" (in a way that it isn't seen as elsewhere) are also still suffered by engineering. * What other hobby involves individual participants in quite such a combination of art, science, history and technology? Edited January 7, 2018 by Pacific231G 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jenny Emily Posted January 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2018 I missed the start. Why are life jackets needed for working on dry ground? I cycled along the Crinan Canal in summer - should we have been wearing them? Health and safety gone mad, I tell ye. Why, when I were a lad.... We had to wear lifejackets whenever we were near the canal. I believe it was one of the conditions for filming made by the authorities. Members of the public walking on the same path were not so encumbered! Judging by comments that are being made on Twitter, Book of Face, Youtube and a whole host of other places, this series is going down exceptionally well. A large part of the audience being composed of people who would not have otherwise considered watching a programme about model trains. It is proving to be a good advert for our hobby, engineering and generally getting out and achieving something. 31 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyram Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 I recorded the programme and watched the first half until my daughter woke up. I will catch up on the rest of the programme tomorrow. I had received several fliers for volunteering whilst at shows early last year. I would have loved to have been involved but teaching commitments got in the way. Having spent my honeymoon in Fort William and Inverness the programme is already bringing back happy memories. I have enjoyed it so far and have spotted a few familiar faces. Looking forward to the rest of it. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Huw Griffiths Posted January 8, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 8, 2018 So far - predictably cringe worthy, bunch of prats claiming their 15 mins of fame. Not even using real model track It's a bit like the apprentice with even more annoying individuals On the basis that some contributors to the show are members and regular contributors on here, that particular viewpoint is maybe not especially well thought out. I stand by my comments, this is how I saw the show and I think I am entitled to my opinion (or is this Forum going to cement its past reputation of supressing such dissention). Yes I did post the same observations on multiple forums and RMweb is the only one where my comments have been met with outright hostility, so you are probably correct in your observations, There is however an old saying - "to see yourself as other see us" I'm not convinced that anyone here is trying to suppress dissent - or deny you the right to hold an opinion which a number of people (me included) don't agree with. As far as I can tell, the real problem is with attitude and choice of words. Decent people don't generally like being referred to as "prats" - especially when this description (and the mindset which might reasonably be assumed to be behind it) is clearly uncalled for. I can safely assume that you weren't involved with this series - and that you would not be involved in any similar series that might happen in future. This is your decision - a decision which you were perfectly entitled to make - and, if truth be known, a decision which I'm glad you've made (for everyone's sake). Just for the record, I also decided not to put my name forward for this series. This had nothing to do with any of the people who were going to be involved - from what I can tell, a group of thoroughly decent, sensible, people. Somehow, I suspect that I would probably have liked - and got on with - every single one of these people. This also had nothing to do with what was being done in the series. I'm sure I could have happily got fully involved - and really enjoyed doing so. No - I realised that I would have found it extremely difficult to sleep under canvas - so it was better that I didn't waste everyone's time. Saying that, I still wanted the whole exercise to work out - and I still hope that everyone who did get involved enjoyed their time (time which they gave freely, along with loads of physical effort). If you call people a "bunch of prats", it's not surprising you get a hostile reaction. In football parlance, play the ball and not the man. Absolutely. Of course what these programs are all about is showing the various different personalities and how they all meld together, or not. At least it’s better than “celebrities” eating bugs in the jungle. Fair comment. Some people might also suggest that some of us might even have previously heard of at least some of the people who took part in the "model railway" series - people who gave their time and effort without being offered appearance fees. Of course, to quote Francis Urquhart: "I couldn't possibly comment." Anyway, that's enough of the "pleasantries" - time to move on to something more positive, which involves moving trains. After all, all of us here are interested in model trains - aren't we? Whatever the score, I'm looking forward to next week's exciting installment. Huw. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie.dunn Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I rather enjoyed watching the episode tonight , fairly well put together and spotted quite a few members the main one being Jenny and I even saw lee Edmondson ( for about 2 seconds) of lee's Locos who has a thread on here I'm looking forward to next week. Jamie 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giggle pin Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I really enjoyed it. I have only briefly visited that area and that was in January last year so seeing it again made both myself and my wife want to visit. As per my heading picture I have an old roundhouse loco I bought at an auction. Polished and sat in the conservatory! My wife asked why I did not have a track to run it on, it's all sounding promising for the engine Looking forwards to next weeks episode. B 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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