Jack P Posted August 3, 2021 Author Share Posted August 3, 2021 Thanks Nick! I'll give it a go, I've never been overly thrilled with the available shades of malachite. Bit rich though, as I wasn't around back then either! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted August 3, 2021 Author Share Posted August 3, 2021 A while since I posted last, but i've not been idle. Still waiting on my SECR D though, which is driving me nuts! Added a few more details to the front of the L - guard irons and some brass strip behind the wheel arches to get rid of the daylight. Then the bogie has retaining brackets (that will sit behind the wheels) and will limit side play. It's gone back in it's box for now, there was an accident with the wheels and now i'll need to order replacements. I've also spent a bit of time working on my H1, It's as close to 1947 condition as I think I can get. The only mistake is that the locomotive number should be on the back of the tender. After being sent the wrong crossheads from Phoenix (twice) I decided to make my own. This means I can actually crack on with getting the chassis completed and running. I've reworked some of the motion bracket and I'm making inroads with that. I don't think i'm going to make all of the motion work, but i'll definitely beef it all up so that it's all there. We've also been looking to purchase a property, a unsuccessful so far, but hopefully soon. The allure of a railway room is very strong! 14 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCGWR Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Looking very nice as usual Jack. Watch for missing buffers on the SECR D, Dad bought 2 (one in Southern Olive, the other in Southern Black) Green one had 3 buffers off when opened the box and the black had one off. Thankfully they were all floating around in the boxes and not a hard fix but seems a common quality control problem with Dapol models recently, I had same problem with my Mogul. Connor 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted August 25, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 25, 2021 (edited) Jack's Z-Class has passed across my workbench for a little work on the body. This consisted of getting the cab & bunker assembly to fit the footplate, sorting the boiler mounting, and fitting a removable cab-roof. Also some detailing work including lamp-irons, cab-beading, handrails and ejector pipe. The reason for the downward angled extension of the boiler handrails is that they are handed, and indicates which side they go. Just noticed I haven't done the bunker handrails yet..... Edited August 25, 2021 by DLT 13 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jack P Posted August 28, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) On 25/08/2021 at 23:46, DLT said: Jack's Z-Class has passed across my workbench for a little work on the body. Dave's just being kind. I made a real hash of things and he's been given the unenviable task of rectifying my mistakes. What an amazing job he's done too. On the back of his fantastic work I've gone back and stripped the chassis for some remedial work. Previously I'd fixed the brake gear in place, this manageable (albeit still not ideal) with Markits/Romford wheels, but a real PITA with Gibsons. I went back and made this removeable. The join in the pull rods is hidden by the spring hangars of the rearmost wheel. Further work will wait until the body is back. I'd like to do some of the brackets that are present at the top of the chassis. Nick Dunhill's been posting his incredible O gauge version on facebook, which has suitably spurred me on. I really need to work on my ability to CAD, being able to produce my own etches and 3D prints would be hugely helpful to the process. On the back of this, I really wanted to revisit my W. I had considered just leaving well enough alone, and buying a new kit - but in the end opted for stripping and altering my existing model. I'd like to add a left hand drive W to the fleet at some point too, so there will eventually be another W. This was my very first etched kit, and there is plenty of room for improvement, some of the work so far: The loco had bath in some Tamiya lacquer thinners. Stripped down to bare metal I started taking it apart. The rear bogie and frames above it have had some rudimentary detailing. New doors fabricated for the cab locker, cab door refined (only closed on one side). The chimney has had rivets added with super steel epoxy and the smokebox wrapper was removed and reapplied. I re-bent and reworked the ejector pipe, removing the large nut that I used last time and reprofiling the bend at the rear of the smokebox. Not happy with the whitemetal castings for the pipework under the cab, I've made my own. It's not exactly right, but I think it's an improvement. Finally, you can see the angle iron at the back of the firebox where it butts up against the cab. I used some scrap nickle silver etch to represent this. Last but definitely not least. I had a bit of a mare with my D class from Rails. Unfortunately, it was sent to an old address, and the current residents have not seen or heard anything. When I reached out to Rails, they advised they were fully sold out and could not offer a replacement. ARGH, Panic! (The folks at rails have advised that if they have any that become available they will let me know) After some skillful negotiating, I've managed to procure one from a friend. He bought 4 of them, but really is only interested in the SECR and BR versions. Enough fluff - my SECR D, after some tinkering. Of course I wasn't content to leave it as it was. The main modifications are the front buffers, swapped out for some gibson SR standard versions. There's also a narrow planet SECR plate at the base of the smokebox. She's been fully repainted, with the cab finished in cream. I even 'teaked' the wooden floor - No photos of this yet, as I only quickly snapped these pictures this morning. I need to use a better camera. 1740 was a St Leonard engine in 1947 so suitable territory for me. If i'm able to get my hands on another one or two of these, i'd like one with the square cab windows, just for a little more variety. (If anyone has a SECR D they are less than enamored with - reach out!) That's all for now! Edited August 28, 2021 by Jack P 18 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Jack Have I misunderstood what you have written, Have you used the Tamiya Lacquer to strip paine, if so what type of paint will it strip please 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted August 28, 2021 Author Share Posted August 28, 2021 28 minutes ago, hayfield said: Jack Have I misunderstood what you have written, Have you used the Tamiya Lacquer to strip paine, if so what type of paint will it strip please That's exactly right! This loco had enamel and lacquers on it plus a layer of etch primer. Took the whole lot off. Going to give it a go on a plastic loco (spare body) and see how it goes. A friend of mine suggested it, he uses it to strip Model Car bodies, and it doesn't hurt the plastic. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Jack Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Smith Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 3 hours ago, hayfield said: Jack Have I misunderstood what you have written, Have you used the Tamiya Lacquer to strip paine, if so what type of paint will it strip please That did seem odd, and on checking, Jack originally wrote that he had used Tamiya Lacquer Thinners! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Steve Smith said: That did seem odd, and on checking, Jack originally wrote that he had used Tamiya Lacquer Thinners! I missed the thinners part, my error but thankfully Jack understood the question 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzgresleyfan Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Hi Jack. I've just spent a happy few evenings digging through your thread from the start. I don't normally get too far into Southern themed topics but the local connection and the photos of Chelwarton piqued my interest. I was involved in the later development of this layout and the ones that went before it. The boards for Limpetness (built by a member and eventually gifted to the club) are now in my possession after being moved on again. It's good to see that Chelwarton is still in action. No club membership for me these days; any modelling I do is solitary. Looking after two 1:1 scale trains and renewing my tram motorman's ticket are my focus these days. Keep the projects coming please. Hopefully we can catch up at Railex this year, assuming Auntie Cindy and Uncle Grant let everyone out in time. Incidentally, the photos you put up of Railex '19 caught my attention too. I initially thought that narrow gauge layout you posted was the work of Kerry Willard. Not so sure now I look at it again. I'll check with him next time I see him. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack Benson Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 Hi Jack, As a long term lurker on this thread, your work has really impressed by the level of detail, it is simply great inspiration, thank you for sharing. May I ask, what became of your 0395 from DJH and another question, is your timeframe just before nationalisation or earlier? Many thanks and Stay Safe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted September 6, 2021 Author Share Posted September 6, 2021 On 29/08/2021 at 19:56, nzgresleyfan said: Hi Jack. I've just spent a happy few evenings digging through your thread from the start. I don't normally get too far into Southern themed topics but the local connection and the photos of Chelwarton piqued my interest. I was involved in the later development of this layout and the ones that went before it. The boards for Limpetness (built by a member and eventually gifted to the club) are now in my possession after being moved on again. It's good to see that Chelwarton is still in action. No club membership for me these days; any modelling I do is solitary. Looking after two 1:1 scale trains and renewing my tram motorman's ticket are my focus these days. Keep the projects coming please. Hopefully we can catch up at Railex this year, assuming Auntie Cindy and Uncle Grant let everyone out in time. Incidentally, the photos you put up of Railex '19 caught my attention too. I initially thought that narrow gauge layout you posted was the work of Kerry Willard. Not so sure now I look at it again. I'll check with him next time I see him. Howdy Rob! Always nice to meet people that are local through RM, it's pretty uncommon! I did wonder if you'd break the 'like' button, It was nice watching your journey through the thread. I've actually recently discontinued my membership at the club. The guys there are great, but I haven't been in so long, and when I do go, nothing runs properly. The track is difficult to manage and my choice of couplings/minimum radius makes things difficult. I'll drop you a PM and we can discuss further, would love to have a chat at Railex! (c'mon Aunty C!) 14 hours ago, Jack Benson said: Hi Jack, As a long term lurker on this thread, your work has really impressed by the level of detail, it is simply great inspiration, thank you for sharing. May I ask, what became of your 0395 from DJH and another question, is your timeframe just before nationalisation or earlier? Many thanks and Stay Safe Hey Jack, Thanks so much for your kind words! The 0395 is still lurking in its box. There's still lots left to do, new footplate, cab, etc. I've got the tender from Brassmasters. Honestly, it's pretty out of scope for central/eastern and there's a fair bit of scratch building required so for the time being it's languishing in the 'to-do' pile. As for my modelling timeframe, It's broadly 1947. To be more specific, if I can find workshopping notes and have the choice of multiple dates within 1947, I try and match things up to August. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jack P Posted September 6, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2021 Work has progressed on the W. Slowly ticking things off the to do list, recent activities are detailed below. Previously, I devised a method of making the cab roof removable. There were some issues with this in practice though, not least that it kept chipping the paint off. I decided to make a much more simple roof that slides into place. You can also see the cab locker and cab door have been blackened. I made a new brake standard, as the whitemetal snapped, and was located at (scale) head height. I really wasn't overly enamored with the WM castings of the bogie brakes, so I set out to make my own They still aren't perfect, the square rod really should have the actuating linkages at the ends. But I think they are a vast improvement over the WM ones. A few final details to add with fuse wire and detail solder The pipework under the cab also came in the form of WM castings: They were the same on both sides, and honestly, just not right. I had a go at making something closer to the prototype. The more I thought about this though, the more I hated it. Almost there, but not quite right. Thus, version 2 I'm much happier with this, still not 100% right, but a lot better than it was. lots of the details will be hidden in the gloom when it's all painted, but it adds dimension. A confession though. This injector (?) on the left hand side was probably removed in favor of a smaller one much like the other side. This makes it all a bit anachronistic. My justification is that it looks right, and there are few photos of these locos in 1947 - so maybe? I spent the weekend working on a photo plank (about time!?) moving forward, this will serve as a nice backdrop for photos. A few more gratuitous photos of the SECR D. Including a close up of the 'Wooden' cab floor. And a few more miscellaneous photos That's all for now! 26 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted September 6, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 6, 2021 Stunning work Jack; I'm particularly impressed by your pipework 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted September 6, 2021 Author Share Posted September 6, 2021 Thanks Dave, Very high praise from you indeed. It's all just bits of brass rod/tube and copper rod. The other bits are spares from Markits clack valves and the bracket from an Alan Gibson Westinghouse pump - all just kicking about in the spares box. Another quick update, some some odd reason I never finished off the cylinders on version one - I left off the draincocks. I wasn't too sure about the flat etched ones that came in the kit (i'm starting to see a trend here..), armed with some 0.5mm wire and handrail knobs, I decided to have a go: Some WD handrail knobs would've actually been much better, but I don't have any in stock at the moment. As has been the case with other details, these aren't 100% accurate, but I think they look much better than nothing there at all. Oh - I also joined the EMGS tonight. I think the winds of change may be blowing... 11 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gz3xzf Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Excellent work Jack, really impressed with the bogie brakes. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted September 10, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 10, 2021 On 06/09/2021 at 10:38, Jack P said: Thanks Dave, Very high praise from you indeed. It's all just bits of brass rod/tube and copper rod. The other bits are spares from Markits clack valves and the bracket from an Alan Gibson Westinghouse pump - all just kicking about in the spares box. I thought for a minute that you had "gone 0-gauge", until I recognised the left-over Markits bits! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted September 13, 2021 Author Share Posted September 13, 2021 (edited) NZ went back into lockdown recently due to delta finally reaching us. This was fortuitous in some ways, I had ordered some etch primer for the W's body. The Lockdown impacted postage (primer still hasn't arrived) and so i've been sitting here twiddling my thumbs, waiting. Naturally once I was happy with the remediation work on the body, this turned my focus to the chassis. This was my first etched kit, and there are a lot of thing i'd do differently on the next one. One of the main areas was the valve gear, I'd put the radius rod on backwards and the nuts/bolts I'd used to secure everything were very prominent in all the wrong ways. I'm sure you can guess what happened next; Wheels and rods came off. DLT's pickup arrangement was able to be removed as one unit and should hopefully slot right back in. I noticed that the wheels were actually incorrect, and had 18 spokes instead of 17. No one offers a plain rim 5'6" 17spk wheel with 14" crank throw (pin between spokes). The closest AG wheel I could find has the correct number of spokes, a beveled rim, and 13" crank throw. Not perfect, but an acceptable compromise until I can 3D print my own wheel centers. Some progress over the weekend saw amendments made to the motion bracket. The first iteration that came with the kit puts both parts in the wrong place, the front one is too high, and the rear one is too low. After some modification, they are now in the right place Like most Maunsell Locos the motion bracket should be a hefty great casting. I added some details to try and represent this from brass T section and rivet strip. On theme with the rest of the build, I added a representation of the internal valve gear in the gap between both brackets, much better than a bit of brass strip painted red. You cannot see this at all, even glimpsing it is difficult. So it's pretty freelance in terms of what should be there, but it's better than nothing. I also added some brass spacers made from leftover etch, at the front and rear of the chassis to help with body fitment and keep it all square The chassis really needs another dunk in paint stripper to get the rest of the stuff off between the frames - everything looks quite messy at the moment, as there is lots more cleaning up to do. OH, and this arrived.. Edited September 13, 2021 by Jack P 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithHC Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Hi Jack well done on joining the EMGS something I did this year again. It’s the introduction of Wayne’s kits for points that was the clincher for me. I test build one and they are very easy to do and look great. I will be looking forward to see how you get on with converting your locos. A blow by blow account will be fine hint if you could do the M7 and H class that will be good for me…… Keith 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Teague Posted September 13, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 13, 2021 Hi Jack You're recent posts show that you are reaching a level of detail that I just can't aspire to! It's to be admired, so keep at it!! Tony 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 On 13/09/2021 at 19:13, KeithHC said: Hi Jack well done on joining the EMGS something I did this year again. It’s the introduction of Wayne’s kits for points that was the clincher for me. I test build one and they are very easy to do and look great. I will be looking forward to see how you get on with converting your locos. A blow by blow account will be fine hint if you could do the M7 and H class that will be good for me…… Keith Thanks Keith, The availability of RTR points and Wayne's kits were definitely a contributing factor for me. I do still plan to build my own points - but it will be nice to have a baseline of track that functions well. I had a cursory look at the H and the M7, with replacement wheelsets there should be very little modification required to get them to fit back inside the respective bodies, as the Hornby wheels have rather wide tyres. Both are on my list, and i'll post updates in due course. 21 hours ago, Tony Teague said: Hi Jack You're recent posts show that you are reaching a level of detail that I just can't aspire to! It's to be admired, so keep at it!! Tony Thanks Tony! I have of course been spurred on by the excellent work of other members that I've been able to witness (stood on the shoulders of giants!). I've come a fair way, but there is still a decent chunk to go yet! 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted September 14, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 14, 2021 On 13/09/2021 at 01:15, Jack P said: OH, and this arrived.. Err, what is it?? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 It's a 3D printer, according to my mates at Google. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted September 14, 2021 Author Share Posted September 14, 2021 8 hours ago, DLT said: Err, what is it?? 7 hours ago, jwealleans said: It's a 3D printer, according to my mates at Google. My Partner suggested that it looks like an air fryer, I'd definitely prefer the smell of the air fryer! It is indeed a 3D printer though, The Phrozen Sonic 4K Mini, a smallish, very high resolution printer. There should be enough build volume to do things in parts if needed, a long coach could be done in 2/3 parts sectioned at the panel lines. First print will be the LBSC J1 my friend designed, it's a full loco inc chassis and uses its own gearbox designed to take the gears from a HL roadrunner. Just waiting on some resin and a wash'n'cure station and then we shall give it a go! 4 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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