Deliberately Old-Fashioned 0 Scale - Chapter 1

[Edwardian]

23 minutes ago, Nearholmer said:

Thank you Edwardian, I was beginning to fear that we were spinning-off into a netherworld.

 

To further emphasise the intended Englishness of this thread, here is another picture, this time in colour (mostly a sort of grey colour).

 

 

In homage to the splendid picture above ...

 

[Northroader]

Can anybody play?

[J. S. Bach]

15 hours ago, Nearholmer said:

JSB ...snip... £250 ...snip...

Helping you to help yourself by helping ourselves to your money.

250 pounds of what? I can think of some "product" that just might be suitable.

[J. S. Bach]

7 hours ago, St Enodoc said:

I'll have a pint of what you're on please.

Make that a quart at least.

[J. S. Bach]

59 minutes ago, Northroader said:

Can anybody play?

I will add one, but not from the UK; an ALCo RSD5/7:

 

And note that the over-size couplers are called "lobster claws"!

 

Another view:

 

That device with the hanging ropes is a low-clearance warning (tell-tale) for anyone on top of the car, a hold-over from many years ago. Here is a prototype in Damascus, Virginia:

 

 

Edited October 23, 2020 by J. S. Bach

[Florence Locomotive Works]

1 minute ago, J. S. Bach said:

I will add one, but not from the UK:

 

And note that the over-size couplers are called "lobster claws"!

 

Another view:

 

That device with the hanging ropes is a low-clearance warning for anyone on top of the car, a hold-over from many years ago. Here is a prototype in Damascus, Virginia:

 

 

I always thought they were for the 3376 giraffe!

[J. S. Bach]

Hidden in those trees is a bridge now part of a rails-to-trails system:

 

 

Also there:

 

 

[Nearholmer]

I do like the look of the cycling path, very much my kind of thing.

 

The only time I modelled US railroads was in H0, when I built layout inspired by a harbour  in New England. Nowadays I tend to stick to English railways. Rocker curates a very interesting thread about US coarse-0.

[Metropolitan H]

4 hours ago, Nearholmer said:

Thank you Edwardian, I was beginning to fear that we were spinning-off into a netherworld.

 

To further emphasise the intended Englishness of this thread, here is another picture, this time in colour (mostly a sort of grey colour).

 

That is a very posh set of wagons that one of your multifarious Terriers has to play with!

 

One of my pet locomotives has a new train set that arrived earlier this week - after a 1 month holiday in UK Customs! But we are catering for a different type of traffic - hopefully this train and other will be able to circulate properly before Monday - you know why.

 

Regards

Chris H

Edited October 23, 2020 by Metropolitan H
Forgot the picture first time round!!! CH

[Nearholmer]

Very nice indeed. I imagine those to be smooth-riding and comfortable on that carpet ballast, which definitely looks the business.

 

The wood and wallpaper pre-group wagons came from the sale table at Narrog, built by Mr Chapman of NP using papers I think from Mr Palmer.

[Annie]

16 minutes ago, Nearholmer said:

The wood and wallpaper pre-group wagons came from the sale table at Narrog, built by Mr Chapman of NP using papers I think from Mr Palmer.

That reminds me, - I'm sure I've got some Leeds wallpaper stashed away somewhere and I might even have some vintage Millsbro ones too.

[F-UnitMad]

2 hours ago, Nearholmer said:

 

The only time I modelled US railroads was in H0, when I built layout inspired by a harbour  in New England. Nowadays I tend to stick to English railways. Rocker curates a very interesting thread about US coarse-0.

I do believe there's a not-so-subtle hint there.

 

I do love the way some 3-railers deliberately thumb their nose at one of the Golden Rules of Train Sets - Don't run on the carpet!! Yeah, whatever....  

[Florence Locomotive Works]

Ladies and gents, I have decided,

 

To revive my live steam Bassett Lowke mogul. Wish me luck.

[PatB]

8 hours ago, J. S. Bach said:

Hidden in those trees is a bridge now part of a rails-to-trails system:

 

 

Also there:

 

 

I'm not sure if a picture of a banjo is really going to encourage tourists into the US backwoods . 

[J. S. Bach]

8 hours ago, Nearholmer said:

I do like the look of the cycling path, very much my kind of thing. ...snip...

A view from the other direction:

[Nearholmer]

Here’s our local equivalent from towpath level - cycle path On former railway line over the top. This is an old snap - it was heavily refurbished last year so looks a bit smarter now.

 

 

 

 

[Donw]

My favourite is the Mawddach Trail

 

The trail skirts along the edge of this estuary you can just make out the embankment where there are few trees

 

Don

[Keith Addenbrooke]

On 22/10/2020 at 20:53, Florence Locomotive Works said:

A bit more progress. The prints came out a bit dark but let’s just call it weathering. Now I will definitely stop hijacking Kevin’s topic. 

Jumping back a bit (I’m not very good at keeping up, sorry), this wooden coach prompted me to repost a photo from my HO diorama thread of some c. 1950s US outline coaches I’ve been given: wooden kits, (ironically) used to represent the kind of steel-sided US coaches that replaced real-life heavyweight wooden ones:

 

 

Ends of the coaches and trucks / bogies are metal, though the wheels look like plastic.  No idea of the manufacturer.  I don’t know how common wood was in UK O-scale, but for those of us on the small side, I quite like these.  Hope it’s Ok to share here.

Edited October 7, 2022 by Keith Addenbrooke
Reinstating photos

[Nearholmer]

Wood was very common for both amateur craft and ‘high end’ r-t-r stock. We tend to think ‘tin’ because Hornby filled the market with it, but ‘modellers’ made a great deal of use of wood. But, old wooden models are very fragile and haven’t survived anything like so well as tinplate.

 

Its a lovely material, and it’s a great pity that one can’t buy the kits made by CCW, BL and Milbro these days. Leeds-style material, which is mainly paper litho over wood, is available due to the good offices of Mr Palmer and others, of course.
 

Havibg used wood a fair bit in 15mm/ft, I would say that the only really challenging bit is getting a decent finish on coaches - it is mega time-consuming to loose the grain.

[Simond]

Similar experience in 16mm, I built a home-grown L&B coach, and a bit later obtained some Tenmille kits.  Couple of coats of sanding sealer and a blast with cellulose gloss...  I sold the lot when we went to India, one lucky chap got a very good deal, my wife met him somewhere on the M1 to effect the hand-over. I gather he had difficulty getting it all in his car!

 

lots of model boats and planes made from wood too.  Modern fine ply is lovely stuff, if rather pricy.  I still use card, wood & MDF in 7mm FS, because it works wonderfully well with the laser.

 

atb

Simon

[Florence Locomotive Works]

I need to acquire some suitably old bogies for the coach now, as it’s current ones are wanted by the MK 1s as the mogul is hopefully being returned to working order. 

[Nearholmer]

As a minor point, those coaches aren’t Mk1, indeed I think BL Might have Introduced them before the Mk1*, having suspended development of them for the duration of the war.

 

They are a generic late-1930s coach, possibly with LMS inclinations, and pretty much everyone calls them “blood and custards”, since that was the only livery they were issued in as a standard item.

 

IMO the body is the best made tinplate coach ever, bar none, being incredibly sturdy due to the design of the interior. But, the bogies are comparatively fragile - they get bent quite easily.

 

Here’s a really tatty one that I’ve partially dismantled ready to re-paint. The brown parts are inner-sides, which trap the glazing. You can see how thick the steel sheet is; I don’t think it’s actually tinplate.

 

 

 

*Mk1 were first introduced in 1951, whereas these BL coaches were in the 1950 catalogue - I have a feeling they may have first been sold in 1949.

 

 

Edited October 25, 2020 by Nearholmer

[rockershovel]

On 23/10/2020 at 16:16, J. S. Bach said:

Hidden in those trees is a bridge now part of a rails-to-trails system:

 

 

Also there:

 

 

 

American rail bridges always look so fragile compared to British ones! Then again, the British have long since used the term Permanent Way, which I think is quite alien to the American way of thinking...

[rockershovel]

On 24/10/2020 at 00:30, PatB said:

I'm not sure if a picture of a banjo is really going to encourage tourists into the US backwoods . 

 

It should be a fiddle... 

 

[rockershovel]

On 23/10/2020 at 20:07, F-UnitMad said:

I do believe there's a not-so-subtle hint there.

 

I do love the way some 3-railers deliberately thumb their nose at one of the Golden Rules of Train Sets - Don't run on the carpet!! Yeah, whatever....  

 

Lionel Fastrack is THE carpet running track! The wide, robust plastic base provides stability AND keeps the fluff out of the gears and bearings!