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Deliberately Old-Fashioned 0 Scale - Chapter 1


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2 hours ago, Simond said:

I noted the LNWR “For motor car traffic” van.  

 

I think those were built for transporting new motor cars from the coachbuilders to to the showroom or customer, and also for chassis from factory to coachbuilder - it was usual, at least with the posher marques, for the customer to have the coachwork done to his specification. 

 

But that's not so very different to the situation in your modern photo.

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Yes, that is a Carette for BL model of the LNWR van leased to Mulliner of “Long Acre London and Northampton”, all of which is big script on the ends.

 

Easy one for Henry Greenly to copy and design art-work for, because he must have seen it frequently as he travelled between home at Watford, and London, or BL works at Northampton.

 

Mulliner’s old coach building works at Long Acre is still discoverable in the back alleys, now all posh offices, but with telltale industrial leftovers. I think they moved most production to Northampton as business expanded and the site proved too cramped, but continued to use it as a showroom [No, they started in Northampton as horse carriage builders, so the London end was the satellite].

 

Here is the street frontage at 134 Long Acre*, which is now a Barbour clothes shop, the works was behind, and in lanes behind the other side of the road. I used to work nearby at 139, although not in Edwardian times!

 

*They eventually occupied an entire block of frontages, I think 132-135 (135 is still vacant here), so this photo probably dates from early in their occupation, and given that it is part of a set that also includes interior shots, I'm tempted to think it is from the very start, in 1907. This row of shops might be the first permanent car showroom in Britain.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Simond said:

I noted the LNWR “For motor car traffic” van.  
 

ironic, isn’t it.  In those days, they took your car by train, nowadays it seems that it’s easier to move trains by road…

 

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I somehow dont think easier is the right word.

 

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I had the pleasure of doing a little light reassembly of a Mulliner Park Ward Bentley many moons back.  The father of a university pal owned it.  And of course the GW Mogo wagons were for moving new cars, as were the later Bocar wagons.
 

Whilst there was a little tongue-in-cheek mischief in my post, I remain astonished that it’s apparently cheaper/quicker/more efficient to move rolling stock by road, unless it’s in revenue service.  I do wonder.

 

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Ah ,well, in the good old days locos were just moved about as required, usually stuck into a goods train, or maybe towed by a light engine(with a caretaker crew , of course)Nowadays a charge has to be made(as the railways must turn a profit)to shift things about, and "Hey Presto! " the road haulage industry can undercut the prices again. Mind you ,as they  have to use a specialised haulier it will still cost a fair old wad of money to  do the job. I suspect the above picture truck and trailer would cost at least the thick end of £250k .The last new truck I drove was £85k about 12 years ago and that was without a body or a Hiab crane mounted< and was only a 6 wheeler.

 

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35 minutes ago, 34006 said:

Ah ,well, in the good old days locos were just moved about as required, usually stuck into a goods train, or maybe towed by a light engine...

Plus, of course, there would have been suitable rail routes available to almost anywhere in the Country.

 Nowadays, for Heritage railways in particular, rail links to the mainline network may not even exist any more.

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On 25/09/2021 at 11:59, Lacathedrale said:

I went to the Brighton Toy & Model Museum and thought this thread might appreciate a few pictures!

 

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Thank you for those William, I had know idea there was a Carette K. Bay. Sts. B. Vauclain Compound outside of continental Europe. 

 

(its to the immediate right of the GCR tank in the last photo)

 

Here its prototype, which is really a 4-4-2. The Royal Bavarian State Railway class S 2/5.

 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavarian_S_2/5_(Vauclain)

 

 

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Those shortie LNER coaches that I showed a few days ago have been waiting for an ideal engine for a while, and I think I’ve now found them one.

 

They rejected the BL clockwork 0-4-0T, because it is too wild, and frayed their nerves, and an Ace G5 0-4-4T, which, along with its 6W carriages, has now moved to Met H’s railway, but they seem to like this Ace E1 4-4-4T. They say it is well-behaved, and, although it’s young, has old-fashioned charm.

 

 

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19 minutes ago, Nearholmer said:

Those shortie LNER coaches that I showed a few days ago have been waiting for an ideal engine for a while, and I think I’ve now found them one. ...snip...

I was expecting to see Thomas or one of his friends! :jester:

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Seen on a railway not far from Birlstone this p.m. It has presence and performs well.

 

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It was just visiting and has now returned home some miles to the south, but it is very attractive.

 

Perhaps Birlstone needs something similar to speed up the London traffic?

 

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Chris H

 

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One has been on requisition from stores for months, but apparently they can’t keep up with demand, because it hasn’t arrived yet.

 

Thinking about it, a perfect pair, because I’ve requisitioned 10001 in 1948/49 no-logo livery.

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2 hours ago, Metropolitan H said:

Seen on a railway not far from Birlstone this p.m. It has presence and performs well.

 

If you must have a diesel...

 

22 minutes ago, Nearholmer said:

10001 in 1948/49 no-logo livery.

 

Oh dear. I read that as no-go livery.

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The Diesel - smart though it is was only visiting - the home fleet is a bit Steam and electric biased like so:

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The everyday trains.

 

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The exotica!

 

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Posh steam to remind me that Grandfather was an ECML signalman, retiring from Westwood Junction Box not long before the W1 laid on its side at the bottom of the box steps - there is a longer story but not for now.

 

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The GWR branch line trains for when we want a restful day.

 

There is also the Duke of Gloucester and a Longmoor Military Railway train which are reminders of my much younger days.

 

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Chris H

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55 minutes ago, St Enodoc said:

Looks like Miss Joan Hunter Dunn walking past the church.

The speed of a swallow, the grace of a boy.

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Yes, she caught my eye too.

 

Notice that the clergyman is carefully making sure that he doesn't notice her.

 

Oh whip the dogs away my Lord,
They make me ill with lust.
Bend bare knees down to pray, my Lord,
Teach sulky lips to say, my Lord,
That flaxen hair is dust.

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