LNWR18901910 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 14 hours ago, TangoOscarMike said: And all of a sudden it's finished. Thanks are due to @LNWR18901910 and @Gibbo675 for their advice and encouragement. It looks alright-ish, I think, with my "normal" tender design. Small streamliners are ideal for small, fast, short-distance trains. This one connects the city centre with the airship towers, out in the surrounding countryside. It does not stop at small suburban stations. Your most welcome. This model does look amazing and I'm most glad to help! I do have ideas for a futuristic steam locomotive if you're interested. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNWR18901910 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 On 23/05/2021 at 09:43, DK123GWR said: My 0-4-0 tender-tank has progressed slightly since my last post. The first subject of interest is the coupling between the loco and the tender. When I tested the loco pulling a freight train (more axles ergo more friction than a passenger train) the loco had a tendency to swing on the coupling as it tried to move forwards, lifting its rear wheels and going nowhere fast while spinning its wheels rapidly. It was also a bit of a pain to get the wire onto the hook every time I needed to couple. I have therefore developed the Mk2 coupling as shown below: This version of the coupling is fixed rigidly to the coupling hook of the wagon with PVA (which has had black paint added to disguise the brass wire). This is easy to insert into the loop of the loco's tension lock. Forwards, the loco pulls the tender using the coupling, but backwards it pushes the tender using the force of the tender buffers on the buffer beam of the loco. This system works on all but the very worst track laying (fortunately, the track needs to be relayed anyway to adress electrical issues). The photo above also shows the other major modifications which have been made since my first post, which are all on the tender. The first stage was to cut a square out of the wagon for the fireman to shovel coal through. Following this, the eye markings were removed. This was done with a Hornby track rubber. While it was effective, you can see in the photo the white marks where the plastic has been scratched, and the texture of the planks has also been removed. While this isn't too much of a problem here, I wouldn't use the method in a more visible location. The final alteration I have made is to add coal to the tender. I decided to try out making my own. Stage one involved adding cereal card (painted with a black paint/PVA mix) into the tender until I found a slope that I was happy with, and then fixing it into place using pure PVA (so that I didn't end up with black splodges on the sides of the tender). Stage 2 involved painting the card with PVA, then sprinkling on the rubber granules used in 3G football pitches (if you play on these pitches regularly you have an unlimited supply of the stuff - just tip your shoes upside down over a tub when you take them off). This was then covered in diluted PVA to bond the rubber pieces together. As I wasn't happy with the coverage the first time, I repeated the process once the first lot of glue had dried. The result is a homemade textured coal load included in the cost of football training. Unfortunately neither my photography nor my camera are particularly good, but here is a shot to give you an idea of what the loco looks like at the moment. I see you're making a standard gauge version of a miniature locomotive - most creative! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted May 24, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2021 One from Archie Beale on Facebook... 13 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGemAlchemist Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Corbs said: One from Archie Beale on Facebook... Very nice... though again, guilty of my biggest pet peeve, which is the lack of proper slide bars 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypherman Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, RedGemAlchemist said: Very nice... though again, guilty of my biggest pet peeve, which is the lack of proper slide bars Hi Red, This engine is a great looker and I might attempt to make one. I agree with you as it is one of my pet hates of this engine as well. That is why the little shunter I made has almost proper valve gear. Just an odd fact but did you know that between Triang and Hornby they list 105 different 0-4-0 models. Edited May 24, 2021 by cypherman 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGemAlchemist Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 12 hours ago, cypherman said: Just an odd fact but did you know that between Triang and Hornby they list 105 different 0-4-0 models. Hmm. I knew there were a lot but not that there were that many. I'm sure that keeps the collectors busy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 On 23/05/2021 at 19:05, TangoOscarMike said: And all of a sudden it's finished. Thanks are due to @LNWR18901910 and @Gibbo675 for their advice and encouragement. It looks alright-ish, I think, with my "normal" tender design. Small streamliners are ideal for small, fast, short-distance trains. This one connects the city centre with the airship towers, out in the surrounding countryside. It does not stop at small suburban stations. Superb! Lovely idea, great design, beautifully finished. And a much better Steampunk loco than Hornby's! 5 7 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londontram Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 On 23/05/2021 at 09:43, DK123GWR said: My 0-4-0 tender-tank has progressed slightly since my last post. The first subject of interest is the coupling between the loco and the tender. When I tested the loco pulling a freight train (more axles ergo more friction than a passenger train) the loco had a tendency to swing on the coupling as it tried to move forwards, lifting its rear wheels and going nowhere fast while spinning its wheels rapidly. It was also a bit of a pain to get the wire onto the hook every time I needed to couple. I have therefore developed the Mk2 coupling as shown below: The photo above also shows the other major modifications which have been made since my first post, which are all on the tender. The first stage was to cut a square out of the wagon for the fireman to shovel coal through. Following this, the eye markings were removed. This was done with a Hornby track rubber. While it was effective, you can see in the photo the white marks where the plastic has been scratched, and the texture of the planks has also been removed. While this isn't too much of a problem here, I wouldn't use the method in a more visible location. The final alteration I have made is to add coal to the tender. I decided to try out making my own. Stage one involved adding cereal card (painted with a black paint/PVA mix) into the tender until I found a slope that I was happy with, and then fixing it into place using pure PVA (so that I didn't end up with black splodges on the sides of the tender). Unfortunately neither my photography nor my camera are particularly good, but here is a shot to give you an idea of what the loco looks like at the moment. Great work and a good start to some proper modeling, what would look really good is you could cut a new cab floor from plasticard or even the stiff card that birthday cards are made from with a curve to the back edge. This would cover up any holes left in the floor from removing the bunker but the curve will cover the gap between the loco and tender and hide the coupling but still allow the loco and tender to turn on points and bends, you could do a test piece and just blue tack it in place to test it untill you get the curve on the card how you want it then glue or even leave it with just the blue tack and give it a coat of black paint. Keep up the good work PS I got a four pack of mini pork pies the other day and the base of the plastic tray they come in had a texture like that non slip checker plate so I saved it for future use but that would look brilliant used on here. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 33C Posted May 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2021 Just finished a (very) little side project. A Neilson "Jumbo" 0-4-0 ST from the Beckton Gas Works stud. An un-powered model with the books that inspired me. 18 1 9 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaZagato Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Nice. No thoughts of motoring it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 No, because i have used the motor elsewhere! Watch this space....... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenNewland Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 2 hours ago, 33C said: Just finished a (very) little side project. A Neilson "Jumbo" 0-4-0 ST from the Beckton Gas Works stud. An un-powered model with the books that inspired me. I have to say that isn't my favourite prototype to model, but it oozes character. You have done a really impressive job of modelling it too. Can I just say that if that was mine now, I would add a grey or brownish wash to it, which runs into corners and brings out the detail, but also blends different colours into each other well. I would experiment with an acrylic wash or two, (it would grime up the wheels a bit too), then give it a waft of satin or matt varnish (not much mind, just a wee bit). However, my brother things my locos are too dull and should be more shiny, so probably more down to personal taste I guess. Just an idea. Brilliant stuff and inspriational for others to try. One question, does it roll freely? I.e. could it be pushed along by another loco (double heading for instance)? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Ha, weathering will come but the paint was a bit tacky when I took the photo.....and yes it does run freely as it's full of lead! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinderMonkey Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 Whilst hunting for some photos of the Neilson locomotive modeled above (excellent model 33C), I found this quirky little thing and thought it might serve as some inspiration to you talented folk (I am not the owner of these images, obviously). Any information on the prototype is welcomed. 7 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 Wow, pumped up LBSCR B1! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Besley Posted May 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 30, 2021 Poor thing I expect it died of shame 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Holliday Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 9 hours ago, CinderMonkey said: Whilst hunting for some photos of the Neilson locomotive modeled above (excellent model 33C), I found this quirky little thing and thought it might serve as some inspiration to you talented folk (I am not the owner of these images, obviously). Any information on the prototype is welcomed. The website the first picture can be found on gives its history (Transports of delight). Great Southern & Western Railway - Ireland 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted May 31, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 31, 2021 Not exactly over-endowed in the boiler department, is it! I bet the poor fireman's back gave him hell with all the stooping required. I wonder if he used a shovel or tongs. Intended for a one-coach railmotor service perhaps? John 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted May 31, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 31, 2021 (edited) A bit of Googling revealed Sprite was formerly an 0-4-4T with a carriage portion on the rear. An inspection car akin to Mr Drummond's famed [2-2-4T] 4-2-4T on the LSWR. Later reduced to 0-4-2T and worked with a separate (presumably larger) inspection saloon. John Edited June 9, 2021 by Dunsignalling Typo 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devo63 Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 On 31/05/2021 at 06:47, CinderMonkey said: Is this in running order in the photo? It certainly appears to be in steam but there is no rod between the drivers so must be running as a 2-2-2. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyMay Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Devo63 said: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tullygrainey Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 I hope it's not running as a 2-2-2 in that second photo. It doesn't appear to have any brakes either 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Besley Posted June 3, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 3, 2021 56 minutes ago, Tullygrainey said: I hope it's not running as a 2-2-2 in that second photo. It doesn't appear to have any brakes either Is it being used as a stationary steam plant?... if so the connection must be on the otherside 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Goat Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 On 23/05/2021 at 19:05, TangoOscarMike said: And all of a sudden it's finished. Thanks are due to @LNWR18901910 and @Gibbo675 for their advice and encouragement. It looks alright-ish, I think, with my "normal" tender design. Small streamliners are ideal for small, fast, short-distance trains. This one connects the city centre with the airship towers, out in the surrounding countryside. It does not stop at small suburban stations. Now that just has to have the earlier super fast versions of the chassis fited underneath it! 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Goat Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 (edited) On 30/05/2021 at 22:17, CinderMonkey said: Whilst hunting for some photos of the Neilson locomotive modeled above (excellent model 33C), I found this quirky little thing and thought it might serve as some inspiration to you talented folk (I am not the owner of these images, obviously). Any information on the prototype is welcomed. Rather then making a model version of a prototype, it looks like they made a prototype from a model that one of us has made on this thread. (I say this using my sense of humour. I actually love the creative efforts that we make). I can imagine using a rescued Airfix chassis and several days later with the help of some old biscuit tin and some rear wheels from ones spare parts box and voila! .... It even looks like I have made the nameplates! Edited June 3, 2021 by Mountain Goat 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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