33C Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 Looks like "Ivor the engine" has backed into a Hansom cab........ 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypherman Posted June 8, 2021 Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) Hi all, I cannot help it, but to me that looks like one of the ugliest engines I have seen. What is happening to the loco in the second picture. besides as mentioned the connecting rods The brake gear also looks like it is missing. Edited June 8, 2021 by cypherman 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted June 8, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 8, 2021 I believe it is in use as a stationary boiler in the second photo. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova Scotian Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Looks like a cheap (and decent) chassis for an n gauge (or OO-9) bash https://railsofsheffield.com/products/44470/gaugemaster-collection-gm2260201-n-gauge-es-1-style-electric-locomotive-br-e3682 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Nova Scotian said: Looks like a cheap (and decent) chassis for an n gauge (or OO-9) bash https://railsofsheffield.com/products/44470/gaugemaster-collection-gm2260201-n-gauge-es-1-style-electric-locomotive-br-e3682 I think it's built around the 11-109 chassis, which is available as a spare part - and yes, is much used for 009! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted June 13, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 13, 2021 Yes it would be an expensive way to obtain a 109 chassis considering that it's £27 on its own https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203460125290 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova Scotian Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, Corbs said: Yes it would be an expensive way to obtain a 109 chassis considering that it's £27 on its own https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203460125290 Ah, my apologies - didn't know it was available separately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Plaza Japan have them at £14 https://www.plazajapan.com/4949727678283-1/?fbclid=IwAR2Dp9uv2y1OTbYQq46PxVy451o_YpgXJfj4N8AUNZKjteXfispFsFx3-YA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedGemAlchemist Posted June 15, 2021 Share Posted June 15, 2021 On 30/05/2021 at 22:17, CinderMonkey said: Whilst hunting for some photos of the Neilson locomotive modeled above (excellent model 33C), I found this quirky little thing and thought it might serve as some inspiration to you talented folk (I am not the owner of these images, obviously). Any information on the prototype is welcomed. Wow, that's a curious little engine. I like it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Adam FW Posted June 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2021 It's been a long time since I've put any of my work up on this thread but here's my first Polly-bash, it's a detailed Triang Polly body fitted to an Electrotren 0-6-0 chassis. The body came off ebay, it had already been repainted and some detailing had been done such as replacing the buffers and front hand rail. Step 1 was to clean the old paint off, this was done with the Dettol method which was messy Sadly this revealed some damage that I hadn't noticed on the ebay pictures, part of the cab roof was badly warped, I filled this in a bit to hide the worst, I then sanded off the smokebox dart, filled in the bottom of the cab windows with styrene, moved the front steps, used milliput to fill in the screw hole in the bunker, replaced the split pin handrail knobs and did some sanding. I also braced under the cab with styrene and fitted a captive nut to secure the chassis to everything was then primered and then fully painted, the green is Rover Applejack green from a halfords spray can and the rest is brush painted acrylics, I've recently invested in an airbrush, once I'm confident enough with it I'll weather Polly hence why it has no glazed windows at the moment During the build I also experimented with another chassis I was working with, the Dapol B4 which fits quite nicely if anyone needs inspiration for a different polly-bash variant 12 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Besley Posted June 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 15, 2021 21 minutes ago, Adam FW said: It's been a long time since I've put any of my work up on this thread but here's my first Polly-bash, it's a detailed Triang Polly body fitted to an Electrotren 0-6-0 chassis. The body came off ebay, it had already been repainted and some detailing had been done such as replacing the buffers and front hand rail. Step 1 was to clean the old paint off, this was done with the Dettol method which was messy Sadly this revealed some damage that I hadn't noticed on the ebay pictures, part of the cab roof was badly warped, I filled this in a bit to hide the worst, I then sanded off the smokebox dart, filled in the bottom of the cab windows with styrene, moved the front steps, used milliput to fill in the screw hole in the bunker, replaced the split pin handrail knobs and did some sanding. I also braced under the cab with styrene and fitted a captive nut to secure the chassis to everything was then primered and then fully painted, the green is Rover Applejack green from a halfords spray can and the rest is brush painted acrylics, I've recently invested in an airbrush, once I'm confident enough with it I'll weather Polly hence why it has no glazed windows at the moment During the build I also experimented with another chassis I was working with, the Dapol B4 which fits quite nicely if anyone needs inspiration for a different polly-bash variant Very nice any more pictures of the 0-6-0 chassis version Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adam FW Posted June 15, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 15, 2021 17 minutes ago, John Besley said: Very nice any more pictures of the 0-6-0 chassis version here’s some more shots including it sat next to a B2 peckett for scale 12 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Besley Posted June 15, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, Adam FW said: here’s some more shots including it sat next to a B2 peckett for scale Mr Drummond would be pleased with that 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia NSE Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 She's not the best runner (I still have no idea why), but at least she looks nice. Now with added sanding equipment and if you have a squint into the cab, a backhead stolen from an incomplete H class body Thought I'd show her underneath so any mistakes can be pointed out. Excuse the nails, it is Pride month after all! 11 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypherman Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 12 hours ago, Sophia NSE said: She's not the best runner (I still have no idea why), but at least she looks nice. Now with added sanding equipment and if you have a squint into the cab, a backhead stolen from an incomplete H class body Thought I'd show her underneath so any mistakes can be pointed out. Excuse the nails, it is Pride month after all! Hi Sophia, Does it pick up from the bogie wheels as well. Was wondering if the poor running might be due to poor electrical pick up. Lovely looking model. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyMay Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 In my experience, 0-4-4Ts tend to be poor runners generally; problems occur due to both the complicated nature of the pickups and the unequal power distribution inherent in having the front wheels powered but the back not, though this can be helped a little by altering the weight distribution so that there's more weight on the drivers. But compared to a similarly size 0-6-0T, an 0-4-4T is less likely to run well. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveyDee68 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 On 15/06/2021 at 20:03, Adam FW said: here’s some more shots including it sat next to a B2 peckett for scale She’s a big girl, ain’t she?! Given that the two locos are almost the same length, just l@@k at the size of the boiler on Polly! Phwoar! Steve S 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyMay Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 26 minutes ago, SteveyDee68 said: She’s a big girl, ain’t she?! Given that the two locos are almost the same length, just l@@k at the size of the boiler on Polly! Phwoar! Steve S Can't remember if this has been discussed before, but is Polly overscale? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Alex TM Posted June 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 17, 2021 1 hour ago, TonyMay said: Can't remember if this has been discussed before, but is Polly overscale? Probably, but with the replacement chassis and detailing it really looks the part. The B4 works, but I think the Peckett version truly nails it. Either way, both versions are great pieces of work. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia NSE Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 14 hours ago, TonyMay said: In my experience, 0-4-4Ts tend to be poor runners generally; problems occur due to both the complicated nature of the pickups and the unequal power distribution inherent in having the front wheels powered but the back not, though this can be helped a little by altering the weight distribution so that there's more weight on the drivers. But compared to a similarly size 0-6-0T, an 0-4-4T is less likely to run well. There's an extra 30g of weight from the drivers forwards but it's the lack of pick up from one set of drivers that's more of a concern for me. I have been toying with constructing a rear bogie to take pickups too but that just hasn't happened yet 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted June 17, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 17, 2021 5 hours ago, TonyMay said: Can't remember if this has been discussed before, but is Polly overscale? So long as it's within gauge, can a basically freelance body actually be overscale? Hornby's current "Bagnall" diesel looks as if it may be, but the Polly in the photo has just been placed next to an accurate model of a small loco, and the effect seems to have been exacerbated by the wide-angle view. John 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamsRadial Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Sophia NSE said: but it's the lack of pick up from one set of drivers that's more of a concern for me Have you tried with your trusty multimeter to look for continuity between the rim of the pickup wheel and the pickup wiper, then the opposite rim and the chassis? The pickup wire to wheel rim is easy to check visually, although any slop in the wheel or rigidity in the pickup wiper might not be visible, or a slightly wobbly wheel could give intermittent contact, but on the other side of the chassis, the point where the axle makes electrical contact with the chassis block is completely shrouded by the wheel itself. Real stab in the dark, but supposing somebody had fitted two insulated wheels to that axle, one each side, you would have pickup through the wiper from one wheel but absolutely nothing through the other. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia NSE Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 2 hours ago, AdamsRadial said: Have you tried with your trusty multimeter to look for continuity between the rim of the pickup wheel and the pickup wiper, then the opposite rim and the chassis? The pickup wire to wheel rim is easy to check visually, although any slop in the wheel or rigidity in the pickup wiper might not be visible, or a slightly wobbly wheel could give intermittent contact, but on the other side of the chassis, the point where the axle makes electrical contact with the chassis block is completely shrouded by the wheel itself. Real stab in the dark, but supposing somebody had fitted two insulated wheels to that axle, one each side, you would have pickup through the wiper from one wheel but absolutely nothing through the other. The reason I haven't used my trusty multimeter is.... I haven't got one! It would probably be best for someone with some knowledge (definitely not me!) to take a look at it. Weirdly before resoldering the pickups it was the other set of drivers that were picking up 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK123GWR Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, Sophia NSE said: The reason I haven't used my trusty multimeter is.... I haven't got one! It would probably be best for someone with some knowledge (definitely not me!) to take a look at it. Weirdly before resoldering the pickups it was the other set of drivers that were picking up Unless it would stop you from eating, get one! They are unbelieveably useful. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophia NSE Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 24 minutes ago, DK123GWR said: Unless it would stop you from eating, get one! They are unbelieveably useful. I'll take a look for one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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