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Hi all,

I cannot help it, but to me that looks like one of the ugliest engines I have seen. What is happening to the loco in the second picture. besides as mentioned the  connecting rods The  brake gear also looks like it is missing.

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On 30/05/2021 at 22:17, CinderMonkey said:

Whilst hunting for some photos of the Neilson locomotive modeled above (excellent model 33C), I found this quirky little thing and thought it might serve as some inspiration to you talented folk (I am not the owner of these images, obviously). Any information on the prototype is welcomed.

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Wow, that's a curious little engine. I like it.

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21 minutes ago, Adam FW said:

It's been a long time since I've put any of my work up on this thread but here's my first Polly-bash, it's a detailed Triang Polly body fitted to an Electrotren 0-6-0 chassis. The body came off ebay, it had already been repainted and some detailing had been done such as replacing the buffers and front hand rail.

 

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Step 1 was to clean the old paint off, this was done with the Dettol method which was messy

 

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Sadly this revealed some damage that I hadn't noticed on the ebay pictures, part of the cab roof was badly warped, I filled this in a bit to hide the worst, I then sanded off the smokebox dart, filled in the bottom of the cab windows with styrene, moved the front steps, used milliput to fill in the screw hole in the bunker, replaced the split pin handrail knobs and did some sanding. I also braced under the cab with styrene and fitted a captive nut to secure the chassis to

 

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everything was then primered

 

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and then fully painted, the green is Rover Applejack green from a halfords spray can and the rest is brush painted acrylics, I've recently invested in an airbrush, once I'm confident enough with it I'll weather Polly hence why it has no glazed windows at the moment

 

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During the build I also experimented with another chassis I was working with, the Dapol B4 which fits quite nicely if anyone needs inspiration for a different polly-bash variant

 

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Very nice  any more pictures of the 0-6-0 chassis version

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17 minutes ago, John Besley said:

Very nice  any more pictures of the 0-6-0 chassis version


here’s some more shots including it sat next to a B2 peckett for scale 

 

 

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She's not the best runner (I still have no idea why), but at least she looks nice. Now with added sanding equipment and if you have a squint into the cab, a backhead stolen from an incomplete H class body 

 

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Thought I'd show her underneath so any mistakes can be pointed out. Excuse the nails, it is Pride month after all!

 

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12 hours ago, Sophia NSE said:

She's not the best runner (I still have no idea why), but at least she looks nice. Now with added sanding equipment and if you have a squint into the cab, a backhead stolen from an incomplete H class body 

 

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Thought I'd show her underneath so any mistakes can be pointed out. Excuse the nails, it is Pride month after all!

 

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Hi Sophia,

Does it pick up from the bogie wheels as well. Was wondering if the poor running might be due to poor electrical pick up. Lovely looking model.

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In my experience, 0-4-4Ts tend to be poor runners generally; problems occur due to both the complicated nature of the pickups and the unequal power distribution inherent in having the front wheels powered but the back not, though this can be helped a little by altering the weight distribution so that there's more weight on the drivers.  But compared to a similarly size 0-6-0T, an 0-4-4T is less likely to run well.

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On 15/06/2021 at 20:03, Adam FW said:


here’s some more shots including it sat next to a B2 peckett for scale 

 

 

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She’s a big girl, ain’t she?! Given that the two locos are almost the same length, just l@@k at the size of the boiler on Polly! Phwoar!

 

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26 minutes ago, SteveyDee68 said:


She’s a big girl, ain’t she?! Given that the two locos are almost the same length, just l@@k at the size of the boiler on Polly! Phwoar!

 

Steve S

 

Can't remember if this has been discussed before, but is Polly overscale?

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1 hour ago, TonyMay said:

 

Can't remember if this has been discussed before, but is Polly overscale?

Probably, but with the replacement chassis and detailing it really looks the part.  The B4 works, but I think the Peckett version truly nails it.  Either way, both versions are great pieces of work.

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14 hours ago, TonyMay said:

In my experience, 0-4-4Ts tend to be poor runners generally; problems occur due to both the complicated nature of the pickups and the unequal power distribution inherent in having the front wheels powered but the back not, though this can be helped a little by altering the weight distribution so that there's more weight on the drivers.  But compared to a similarly size 0-6-0T, an 0-4-4T is less likely to run well.

There's an extra 30g of weight from the drivers forwards but it's the lack of pick up from one set of drivers that's more of a concern for me. I have been toying with constructing a rear bogie to take pickups too but that just hasn't happened yet

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5 hours ago, TonyMay said:

 

Can't remember if this has been discussed before, but is Polly overscale?

So long as it's within gauge, can a basically freelance body actually be overscale?

 

Hornby's current "Bagnall" diesel looks as if it may be, but the Polly in the photo has just been placed next to an accurate model of a small loco, and the effect seems to have been exacerbated by the wide-angle view.

 

John  

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1 hour ago, Sophia NSE said:

but it's the lack of pick up from one set of drivers that's more of a concern for me

Have you tried with your trusty multimeter to look for continuity between the rim of the pickup wheel and the pickup wiper, then the opposite rim and the chassis?

 

The pickup wire to wheel rim is easy to check visually, although any slop in the wheel or rigidity in the pickup wiper might not be visible, or a slightly wobbly wheel could give intermittent contact, but on the other side of  the chassis, the point where the axle makes electrical contact with the chassis block is completely shrouded by the wheel itself.

 

Real stab in the dark, but supposing somebody had fitted two insulated wheels to that axle, one each side, you would have pickup through the wiper from one wheel but absolutely nothing through the other.

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2 hours ago, AdamsRadial said:

Have you tried with your trusty multimeter to look for continuity between the rim of the pickup wheel and the pickup wiper, then the opposite rim and the chassis?

 

The pickup wire to wheel rim is easy to check visually, although any slop in the wheel or rigidity in the pickup wiper might not be visible, or a slightly wobbly wheel could give intermittent contact, but on the other side of  the chassis, the point where the axle makes electrical contact with the chassis block is completely shrouded by the wheel itself.

 

Real stab in the dark, but supposing somebody had fitted two insulated wheels to that axle, one each side, you would have pickup through the wiper from one wheel but absolutely nothing through the other.

The reason I haven't used my trusty multimeter is.... I haven't got one!

 

It would probably be best for someone with some knowledge (definitely not me!) to take a look at it. Weirdly before resoldering the pickups it was the other set of drivers that were picking up

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10 minutes ago, Sophia NSE said:

The reason I haven't used my trusty multimeter is.... I haven't got one!

 

It would probably be best for someone with some knowledge (definitely not me!) to take a look at it. Weirdly before resoldering the pickups it was the other set of drivers that were picking up

Unless it would stop you from eating, get one! They are unbelieveably useful.

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