RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted October 30, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 30, 2021 11 hours ago, robert17649 said: I once entered a competition in which I made a water crane from a Lego brick and a biro tube I was impressed but the judging team called it a kit and disqualified me, maybe the lego brick was too regular! Oh come on, judges, surely it's only a kit if sold as such? It sounds more like Found Art to me. If you had entered just the concept, you would have won hands down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted November 1, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 1, 2021 You can buy a plastic tub full of Lego in the Lego shop for 6 quid, the shop guy will fill it with whatever selection of bricks you want, brilliant value. They are useful for all sorts of things, but particularly as formers for kitbuilding, rolling stock or buildings, to get them plumb and square. Fill up with squares and rectangles plus a few 45 degree and other shapes, and youve got most angles covered, literally. And you get a handy little plastic tub with an airtight lid! 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockalaucher101 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Is this official? I'd be all for having a stab at it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted November 1, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 1, 2021 Any Lego shop, yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Goat Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 On 30/10/2021 at 09:54, robert17649 said: I once entered a competition in which I made a water crane from a Lego brick and a biro tube I was impressed but the judging team called it a kit and disqualified me, maybe the lego brick was too regular! Yet if you made it out of Linka you would likely be ok? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
009 micro modeller Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 On 29/10/2021 at 00:14, Corbs said: I think for it to be a 'competition' everyone needs the same base model, otherwise it's just this thread again, I think it's more fun to have a few constraints but I agree we should not be limited on scales. I was having a look and Caley Pugs can be had for less than £20 so it's quite a low barrier to entry. I did think that using the static pug kit might be a bit too close to the 009 society one so I am erring towards doing the Caley Pug (plus it's iconic). If it's a success we can try using other base models. Early days yet but I'll try and put something together. How much of the model has to be used though? Presumably if we’re not limited to 00 scale then larger scale NG would be included, but would 009 and 00n3 (i.e. using only the body) also be allowed? Arguably this would be more in the spirit of things than a larger scale model that used only the chassis and none of the body. Even in 00 standard gauge some people would choose to replace or heavily rebuild the chassis. Either way, I’d be interested, as I have ideas for a few different scales - I’m just wondering what the constraints would need to be, to keep within the spirit of things while allowing people to be creative. Would a double Fairlie be disqualified because it needs two Pugs to make it? As an example, another 009 Society Chairman’s Challenge, some years ago, was the Hudson coach bash one, in which participants had to modify one of the then-recently released Society exclusive Hudson toast rack coach kits. As I recall, the “rules,” such as they were, were fairly loose, but did stipulate that the finished item should be ‘recognisably’ made from a Hudson coach kit. This worked out well, allowing a variety of very creative responses but preventing anyone from, for instance, using only the floor and bogies, or constructing an entirely scratchbuilt and unrelated model and incorporating a single token part from the kit. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 45 minutes ago, 009 micro modeller said: This worked out well, allowing a variety of very creative responses but preventing anyone from, for instance, using only the floor and bogies, or constructing an entirely scratchbuilt and unrelated model and incorporating a single token part from the kit. Or indeed building several entries, each using a different part of the same kit.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
009 micro modeller Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 1 hour ago, RJS1977 said: Or indeed building several entries, each using a different part of the same kit.... Some people did do that (usually half a kit each to make two). But the point is that that rule made people actually engage with the idea of kitbashing the original kit, rather than just gluing a few of the kit parts onto something else. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockalaucher101 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 I can't help myself, I'm going through ebay and I wont stop until I've bought another pug. Hope you're happy now 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockalaucher101 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 14 minutes ago, Rockalaucher101 said: I can't help myself, I'm going through ebay and I wont stop until I've bought another pug. Hope you're happy now Feels strange quoting myself but... That didn't take long. Found a particularly grubby Holden which if needs be can be bashed with a Caley. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 On 27/10/2021 at 12:21, Corbs said: We have gone a worrying distance down this page and I am concerned at the lack of pugs being bashed. An idea I have been kicking around for a while is a Pugbash competition. The 009 society ran one a few years ago using the Dapol pug as the base model. Would anyone be up for doing something similar? I would be up for putting something together and trying to arrange a suitable prize for the winner, just canvassing opinions. A good idea Corbs my friend. Problem is, they are bloody pricey for somebody like me on a budget. Looking on Ebay, there are very few cheap ones. I remember my first Pug bought from the wooden shed model shop at Didcot on a night shoot, for £19. Way back in the mists of time. Still running, but with an Ultrascale replacement gear wheel and a cut down cab. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Besley Posted November 2, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 2, 2021 8 hours ago, Rockalaucher101 said: Feels strange quoting myself but... That didn't take long. Found a particularly grubby Holden which if needs be can be bashed with a Caley. Or a hammer 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Goat Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 hour ago, John Besley said: Or a hammer No. It is beautiful. Enter it as it is. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted November 3, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, Sandhole said: A good idea Corbs my friend. Problem is, they are bloody pricey for somebody like me on a budget. Looking on Ebay, there are very few cheap ones. I remember my first Pug bought from the wooden shed model shop at Didcot on a night shoot, for £19. Way back in the mists of time. Still running, but with an Ultrascale replacement gear wheel and a cut down cab. Your mention of a replacement gear suggests your Pug may be a "proper" L&Y one rather than the usual Railroad hacking fodder. For the latter, check out the big box shifters for cheap(er) used Pugs, occasionally they have even had new ones for less than typical S/H prices on eBay. Just had a look at Hatton's, several Smokey Joe type between £20 and £30 and one Holden as cheap as £17. John Edited November 3, 2021 by Dunsignalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockalaucher101 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Dunsignalling said: Just had a look at Hatton's, several Smokey Joe type between £20 and £30 and one Holden as cheap as £17. Exactly why I picked up a Holden instead of the Caley. Got it for £15 including the postage as opposed to £25-£30 with postage for a Smokey Joe variant. I feel like allowing both versions would mean more could enter. I certainly didn't have that much spare cash to hand... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert17649 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Thanks for te support, my wife tells me I was really upset, but it was along time ago, I just dont enter competitions any more 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TangoOscarMike Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 9 hours ago, Rockalaucher101 said: Exactly why I picked up a Holden instead of the Caley. Got it for £15 including the postage as opposed to £25-£30 with postage for a Smokey Joe variant. I feel like allowing both versions would mean more could enter. I certainly didn't have that much spare cash to hand... I agree. There are five (right?) locomotives that use this chassis in its two variants: The Holden 101, the Caledonian pug, the two inside-cylinder steam engines and the diesel. Allowing all 5 would make sense. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Besley Posted November 3, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 3, 2021 3 hours ago, TangoOscarMike said: I agree. There are five (right?) locomotives that use this chassis in its two variants: The Holden 101, the Caledonian pug, the two inside-cylinder steam engines and the diesel. Allowing all 5 would make sense. Just as long as we all know in enough time to find a doner at the right price with out wiping the market clean out of them in the space of a week.... suppose 100 people tried to find 1 model at the same time... 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Holliday Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 17 minutes ago, John Besley said: Just as long as we all know in enough time to find a doner at the right price with out wiping the market clean out of them in the space of a week.... suppose 100 people tried to find 1 model at the same time... I've got a local kebab house that can sell you a doner, with chips, for only £7.50, if that's any help! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
009 micro modeller Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Nick Holliday said: with chips Ah, a DCC pugbash then? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, John Besley said: Just as long as we all know in enough time to find a doner at the right price You could try the kebab van near me.... ;-) Edit:Nick beat me to it! Edited November 3, 2021 by RJS1977 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Besley Posted November 4, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 4, 2021 9 hours ago, Nick Holliday said: I've got a local kebab house that can sell you a doner, with chips, for only £7.50, if that's any help! Typo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barclay Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 I think this would be better if we stuck purely to the Caley Pug. There can then be subsequent competitions based on the other loco's. If we use all of them now, where do we go after that? 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockalaucher101 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 51 minutes ago, Barclay said: If we use all of them now, where do we go after that? Easy answer to that. If it's done again you could either get an identical variant for next time or try one of the others. All depends on what your mind cooks up at the time and how much money you have at your disposal. Wouldn't want to discourage anyone if they can find an example within their price range 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockalaucher101 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 18 hours ago, TangoOscarMike said: I agree. There are five (right?) locomotives that use this chassis in its two variants: The Holden 101, the Caledonian pug, the two inside-cylinder steam engines and the diesel. Allowing all 5 would make sense. I think there may actually be a couple more than that. Holden 101, Caley Pug, Class D, The Shorty Thomas, Bagnall Diesel, Class 06, of course the Hornby Percy also uses the same chassis, (Bill and Ben I've heard have different mechanisms) doubt that should be counted though. To my knowledge I think that's it. Quite the variety to choose from and typically pretty cheap depending on where you look. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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