RMweb Premium Alex TM Posted May 31, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 31, 2020 3 hours ago, A Murphy said: Possibly get hold of another body and shut and cut? Regards, Alastair M Hi, This looks an interesting project. Alastair answer may be the most straightforward way, though there may be another. There is a lot of space within the body and chassis mouldings so would it be possible to move the tank forward, effectively doing away with the smokebox area? It may be worth popping the body of the chassis to have a look. I suggest that as the tank is already a bit on the long side. (Unfortunately I don't have one to check this out.) Good luck with this. Regards, Alex. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tullygrainey Posted May 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 31, 2020 4 hours ago, Quarry-Steam65 said: I’m planning on turning a pug into a Hawthorn Leslie (3865 ‘Singapore’ specifically) the boiler may be a bit long but I just need to add a cab back plate, move the safety valves and whistle. could anyone give any advice on extending the saddle tank? plastikard perhaps? I did something similar, using a Caledonian Pug to make an approximation of a shunter built in 1914 by LMS NCC to work the dock lines in Belfast. I used the thinnest plasticard I could find to extend the saddle tank by wrapping and bonding this over the existing tank, at the same time extending it to a new fabricated front end. I had to re-profile the tank before doing this and you might too but the moulding is pretty thick and there's plenty to work with. Hope the pics explain this better. Good luck with your project. Alan 11 1 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweenyTod1 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Here is my offering of an M&GN /LNER J93. The chassis is scratch built from thin brass sheet and simple bar compensation on the leading and centre axles. The cylinders slide bars and crosshead are made up from brass and nickel silver from the Airfix Pug. Originally they were just plastic from an old kit, but nearly melted due to friction!!! So now suitably beefed up with metal on metal plus a bit of lubrication. The body started life as a Mainline J72, chopped about with plasticard additions to get it as near scale as I could without a drawing to check. I used photos from various books that also had some dimensions. To improve the model further, I need to source some brake blocks and rigging, which oddly were not fitted to the leading wheels. Tod 6 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barclay Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 6 hours ago, Quarry-Steam65 said: I’m planning on turning a pug into a Hawthorn Leslie (3865 ‘Singapore’ specifically) the boiler may be a bit long but I just need to add a cab back plate, move the safety valves and whistle. could anyone give any advice on extending the saddle tank? plastikard perhaps? Many years ago as a teenager I extended the tank on one of these to create a freelance industrial. A plasticard profile stuck on the front of the smokebox, and a strip of plasticard along the bottom of the tank to broaden it at the bottom and take away the Neilson profile, then lots of Milliput was shovelled in, smoothed off, and rubbed down when hard. 8 1 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNWR18901910 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 On 22/05/2020 at 12:27, DKGL said: Found an old Dapol Pug in the spares box. Thought it would look better in Green !!!! Wow, that reminds me of Percy, that does! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNWR18901910 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 7 hours ago, Barclay said: Many years ago as a teenager I extended the tank on one of these to create a freelance industrial. A plasticard profile stuck on the front of the smokebox, and a strip of plasticard along the bottom of the tank to broaden it at the bottom and take away the Neilson profile, then lots of Milliput was shovelled in, smoothed off, and rubbed down when hard. That's an ace shunter, that! I bet it runs well even with the custom modded body on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNWR18901910 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 And here's a Tankenstein I made myself. I thought about having a go and I did. It's technically a work-in-progress but I thought I'd show everyone what I made. I hope everyone likes it. It's an LNWR 0-4-0 tank engine with LNWR coaches made from GWR 4-wheel ones I picked up at Warley last November. You know, to keep with the aesthetic. I know there's more to do, but it runs well in both directions and that's great! Plus, during the last 10 weeks of lockdown, I finally got around to my old model railway. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNWR18901910 Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 22 hours ago, tubs01 said: Not sure if this is considered a pugbash, but I got this Hornby 0-4-0 (the gwr one) and I made it an open cab 0-4-2. I know the paint is rough, but i couldn't be bothered to scrape the old paint off, and it looks good enough for me. Sorry about the photos being on my bed, I don't have a layout yet. Interesting. It looks like a mid-to-late Victorian 0-4-2T. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Adam FW Posted June 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 1, 2020 Another one of my 3D printed bodies on an electrotren chassis, this ones a few years old now and is of Bellerophon It's DCC fitted and is mostly brush painted with LNER loco lining and narrow planet nameplates, there's some more images on the bottom of page 1 and top of page 2 in my workbench thread. I'm currently working on designing some variants to print out as part of me fancies having a whole set of 6 Haydock well tanks so I have a request: Does anyone have any images they can provide me or know of any books with images in which show Bellerophon's sister locomotives Hercules, Amazon, Makerfield, Golborne and Parr? I have a couple images of Parr which has a completely different cab and safety valve to Bellerophon, one shot of it crossing the LNWR mainline in the middle of some wagons and one of it parked up, so it's the other I'm more interested in. I've already modelled Parrs cab and safety valve ready for printing (see below) along with Bellerophons various cab styles. But I've never seen images of the other sisters to spot any other other differences between them and would love to see photos of them if they exist. 19 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post BlueLightning Posted June 1, 2020 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted June 1, 2020 With the passing of Michael Angelis on Saturday I decided to look at a TTTE project and spent most of yesterday with the razor saw, super glue, knife and paint. With that my old Hornby Percy took on a new look, which I like to think is a bit more realistic that the "Green Caterpillar" it started life as. The smoke box front has come from Tri-ang Jinty, the boiler has had the lower section removed, and a filer peice of the right diameter for the boiler added in it's place, a new chimney from a GBL Midland Compound, new buffer heads from a GBL Class 47 a whislte added to the cab roof, and a coat of paint, including the motor, which actually can be seen and is the rear of the boiler and the firebox Gary 17 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barclay Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 On 31/05/2020 at 23:55, LNWR18901910 said: That's an ace shunter, that! I bet it runs well even with the custom modded body on. It did, but that was 35 years ago. I'm now looking at putting a new EM chassis on it, but that will be 6 - coupled, because this is a very big loco for an 0-4-0. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweenyTod1 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 On 31/05/2020 at 15:11, Tullygrainey said: I did something similar, using a Caledonian Pug to make an approximation of a shunter built in 1914 by LMS NCC to work the dock lines in Belfast. I used the thinnest plasticard I could find to extend the saddle tank by wrapping and bonding this over the existing tank, at the same time extending it to a new fabricated front end. I had to re-profile the tank before doing this and you might too but the moulding is pretty thick and there's plenty to work with. Hope the pics explain this better. Good luck with your project. Alan I'm very impressed with the cylinders, double slide bars crosshead etc. Where did you source them from? They look so much better than my J93 offering. Are there any suppliers of such components out there as I don't want to buy a complete chassis just to get the motion parts. Tod 4 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tullygrainey Posted June 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) On 03/06/2020 at 10:57, SweenyTod1 said: I'm very impressed with the cylinders, double slide bars crosshead etc. Where did you source them from? They look so much better than my J93 offering. Are there any suppliers of such components out there as I don't want to buy a complete chassis just to get the motion parts. Tod Thanks Tod I can't claim any originality here. I picked up some of the technique from others in this thread. The sliders and crosshead are Hornby spares, part of a valve gear set for a 2-8-0 Class 28xx loco. I got them here: https://www.petersspares.com/index.jsp?searchStr=X8834W There are probably better alternatives out there - something a bit smaller, maybe. Anyone? The cylinders are scratch built from plasticard and sections cut from the barrel of a disposable propelling pencil - the sort you buy in packs of 10 at the supermarket. Alan Edited December 14, 2022 by Tullygrainey 16 1 1 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Goat Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 I can only share a few 0-16.5 model locos. I think some of your locos are great. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manna Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Tullygrainey said: Thanks Tod I can't claim any originality here. I picked up some of the technique from others in this thread. The sliders and crosshead are Hornby spares, part of a valve gear set for a 2-8-0 Class 28xx loco. I got them here: https://www.petersspares.com/index.jsp?searchStr=X8834W There are probably better alternatives out there - something a bit smaller, maybe. Anyone? The cylinders are scratch built from plasticard and sections cut from the barrel of a disposable propelling pencil - the sort you buy in packs of 10 at the supermarket. Alan G'Day Folks Totally transforms the look of the Caly chassis, thinking it will probably work on bigger loco's manna 7 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweenyTod1 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 On 04/06/2020 at 00:13, manna said: G'Day Folks Totally transforms the look of the Caly chassis, thinking it will probably work on bigger loco's manna On 31/05/2020 at 15:11, Tullygrainey said: I did something similar, using a Caledonian Pug to make an approximation of a shunter built in 1914 by LMS NCC to work the dock lines in Belfast. I used the thinnest plasticard I could find to extend the saddle tank by wrapping and bonding this over the existing tank, at the same time extending it to a new fabricated front end. I had to re-profile the tank before doing this and you might too but the moulding is pretty thick and there's plenty to work with. Hope the pics explain this better. Good luck with your project. Alan Thank you Alan for the info. I may make up new motion sets if my version isn't reliable. I have some plastic tubes from TePe dental plaque brushes, which are about the same outside diameter as the pencils. I also have odments of nickel silver strip from sprue frames that would make the slide bars. I will be ordering some other stuff from Peters Spares, so I'll see if they still have the components that you used, which could make life easier! Its a shame that the current Hornby Pug motion isn't the same as the Airfix/Dapol/Kitmaster plastic kit. If that had been recreated in metal, it would have solved my problem. Never mind, there are more important things in life to worry about, especially in the world today! Best wishes to all, Tod On 31/05/2020 at 15:11, Tullygrainey said: Tod I'm very impressed with the cylinders, double slide bars crosshead etc. Where did you source them from? They look so much better than my J93 offering. Are there any suppliers of such components out there as I don't want to buy a complete chassis just to get the motion parts. Tod 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted June 5, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 5, 2020 On 03/06/2020 at 22:05, Tullygrainey said: Thanks Tod I can't claim any originality here. I picked up some of the technique from others in this thread. The sliders and crosshead are Hornby spares, part of a valve gear set for a 2-8-0 Class 28xx loco. I got them here: https://www.petersspares.com/index.jsp?searchStr=X8834W There are probably better alternatives out there - something a bit smaller, maybe. Anyone? The cylinders are scratch built from plasticard and sections cut from the barrel of a disposable propelling pencil - the sort you buy in packs of 10 at the supermarket. Alan 47 minutes ago, SweenyTod1 said: Tod I'm very impressed with the cylinders, double slide bars crosshead etc. Where did you source them from? They look so much better than my J93 offering. Are there any suppliers of such components out there as I don't want to buy a complete chassis just to get the motion parts. Tod The answer you seek is above, fair traveller. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubs01 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 On 01/06/2020 at 00:01, LNWR18901910 said: Interesting. It looks like a mid-to-late Victorian 0-4-2T. That is the kind of look I was going for. I think the small buffers i got from a wagon really help it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Goat Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Is this eligable for this thread? 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaZagato Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 I see the Pug, so most definitely. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweenyTod1 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 7 hours ago, Corbs said: The answer you seek is above, fair traveller. Oh dear, I posted the wrong reply. Sorry about that. Its my birthday today and the wine and port must have confused this old (74 th year) brain!! So I have absolutely no idea where the intended reply post has gone, lost in an alcoholic haze probably? I know I was!! I'm not now, but as its getting late, I hear my bed calling. I've had a great day, what I can remember anyway, so I better quit while I'm ahead. Nite nite Tod 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNWR18901910 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 2 hours ago, tubs01 said: That is the kind of look I was going for. I think the small buffers i got from a wagon really help it. True, true. They certainly do indeed! What 4-wheel coaches would you use on your layout? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justang Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 hour ago, SweenyTod1 said: Oh dear, I posted the wrong reply. Sorry about that. Its my birthday today and the wine and port must have confused this old (74 th year) brain!! So I have absolutely no idea where the intended reply post has gone, lost in an alcoholic haze probably? I know I was!! I'm not now, but as its getting late, I hear my bed calling. I've had a great day, what I can remember anyway, so I better quit while I'm ahead. Nite nite Tod Happy birthday! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubs01 Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 14 hours ago, LNWR18901910 said: True, true. They certainly do indeed! What 4-wheel coaches would you use on your layout? Just the standard Hornby ones most likely. but i might see what else i can get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Goat Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 What about this for a Nellie bash ? (The chassis is a mix of Nellie and Smokey Joe). 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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