Garethp8873 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Evening guys, I'm currently working on an article on LBSCR Wagons which is nearly complete bar a few missing things. Firstly I need to add some information on the Single Bolsters, Car Trucks and Ballast wagons that were transferred to the Isle of Wight in the 1930s. Can anyone tell me what each type of wagon was used for and when these would've been withdrawn on the Isle of Wight only. Secondly, I'm looking at what is currently available to the railway modeller. So far I've got the following paragraph done. Can anyone tell me if anything is missing at all? Garethp8873. LBSCR Goods wagons are available to the modeller in OO, N and O gauge. So far only Hornby produces the SR D.1576 Brake Vans for the ‘ready to run’ market. OO modellers are currently offered a wide range of wagons to work with. Cambrian offer the SR.1369 Open with the choice of either adding the rounded ends with tarpaulin rail or flat end. Smallbrook Studios also offers the OO modeller several kits which include the LBSCR 8T Goods Van, Cattle Wagon/Rebuilt Cattle Wagon, 5 Plank with Round/Flat ends and the Single Bolster. The N gauge modeller is rather limited in what is available. Like Hornby, only the SR D.1576 Brake Van is only item available for the ‘ready to run’ market. Whilst no longer produced by Graham Farish, these are easily found second-hand. As for kits, Ultima Models produces a body kits for a Stroudley Brake Van, LBSCR Goods Van (Dia. 1433) and Poultry Van. These are designed to fit onto a Peco wheelbase chassis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcD Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 We, Furness Railway Wagon Co/Pre-Grouping Railways, do a number of LBSCR wagons in 7mm. 7 plank coal 6 plank coal steel underframe 5 plank open steel underframe raised ends 3 plank drop-side 4 wheel brake van 6 wheel brake van marc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgundy Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 Gareth You might want to look at the 5 & 9 Models website and at the Brighton Circle modelling pages. Best wishes Eric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWCR Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Single Bolsters: Intended for long loads such as rails or timbers spread across two or more. Some were allocated to the traffic department, some to the engineers. Last survivors withdrawn in 1967 apart from two converted to match wagons for the "new" LT stock. These lasted until 1990ish, Car Trucks: intended for small vehicles or machinery, mainly used for engineering, eg: Ryde Works would often have one or two loaded with bits of dismantled locos. Last survivors withdrawn 1967. A rake of three Bolsters and one Car truck was often used a as set for moving full length rails. Ballast Wagons: 18 short wheelbase dumb buffered dropside wagons transferred in 1927 for urgent modernisation works. Scrapped in 1931. 10 20ton diagram 1755 steel hoppers transferred in 1947, found to rust badly with sea dredged ballast, Scrapped in 1955 The standard IOW ballast wagon was a 10 ton dropside open but not of LBSC origin, these were ex Contractors wagons later owned by the SECR, Following WW1 war service 20 had been stored at Ashford and were sent to the IOW in 1924. Many were later replaced by rebuilding LBSC opens with the SECR bodywork. Remaining SECR originals also received LBSC wheelsets and boxes resulting in only minimal differences. Last survivors withdrawn 1981 Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 (edited) If you can get hold of a copy, the OPC "Southern Railway Wagons" book, Volume 2, has copious details, photos, and drawings of LBSCR and other IoW stock. http://biblio.co.uk/book/illustrated-history-southern-wagons-volume-two/d/839381141?aid=frg&utm_source=google&utm_medium=product&utm_campaign=feed-details&gclid=CjwKEAiArvTFBRCLq5-7-MSJ0jMSJABHBvp0nlc25x1oYA0pnOzqG0cRzBwCgY9UaBSCj71jyc-KrRoCr3Dw_wcB Kevin Edited March 6, 2017 by Nearholmer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zephyrman Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Hi Pete were the 4 plank rebulids not used for ballast work? The ex IWR one, was it 62888 or something like that was that one amoung the SECR rebuilds? Which wagons were used as match wagons for tube stock. I know the 10 ton Van, but wasn't there a 10 ton open, Any idea which one it was. I did it know a couple of the bolsters were used as tube matches, any ideas what numbers they were? Thanks Gary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWCR Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Yes the 4 plank rebuilds were for ballast as well as general engineers use. 62888 was the only original SECR (ex Price & Reeves Contractors) left at the time of withdrawl, now preserved at Havenstreet. No ex IWR wagons amongst these but there was one ex IWCR vehicle, DS 68823, this had replaced one of the SECR wagons (following accident damage?) being rebuilt with the SECR bodywork, visually very similar but with an 8' 6" wheelbase rather than 9' 0". Not aware of an Open being used as an adapter wagon, possibly something used for unloading tube cars ar Ryde in conjunction with the van?. Yes 2 bolsters used as tube stock adapters, DS 59043 and DS 59045, these lasted until 1992 and must have been amongst the oldest wagons on BR at the time. Sat at Sandown for years and possibly never used?, Shunting of Tube stock at Ryde was done with another Tube unit. Now at Havenstreet and rebuilt to full Bolster condition using parts from other incomplete LBSC bolsters. Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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