RMweb Premium The White Rabbit Posted April 17, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 17, 2021 On 15/04/2021 at 12:09, KNP said: Here is a loco........ basking (am I allowed to use that?) in the light of a passing UFO.......! - next line of postings! Or the Squadron Leader experimenting with an early prototype of the Leigh Light? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslow Boy Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 35 minutes ago, The White Rabbit said: Or the Squadron Leader experimenting with an early prototype of the Leigh Light? Hmm wonder if that's where Barnes Wallis got his idea from? Could have been booked into the Unicorn. You never know. 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KNP Posted April 18, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2021 (edited) And back to normal in the yard and station...... Edited 22 hours ago by KNP 37 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KNP Posted April 19, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) Over on Mick Bonwick's thread, Easton, Isle of Portland, he posted a picture of the Fowler ploughing engine which he gave me a while back and that reminded me we hadn't seen this around for a while. By chance, !!!, she arrived in the yard at LM that very day so our local photographer went down and got some pictures. Now, we looked at these pictures and realised the background was over powering the subject so this turned into an exercise of highlighting the power of using focus stacked pictures where you use only focused pictures of the subject and the background left out of focus thereby making it stand out better....well I think so. Edited 22 hours ago by KNP 39 1 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Limpley Stoker Posted April 19, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 19, 2021 That looks well used- I like the blanking plate over the chimney base ! The selected focussing works well. 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted April 19, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 19, 2021 If a gang of blokes can't work out how to get a crate off a lorry, then getting this engine off the wagon is really going to perplex them ! 4 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgman Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Stubby47 said: If a gang of blokes can't work out how to get a crate off a lorry, then getting this engine off the wagon is really going to perplex them ! Not forgetting the engine shed door ! 1 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslow Boy Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Cracked it. They're going to use the engine shed door as a ramp. The way young Kevin builds things it'll take the weight no problem! You see he does think ahead. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted April 19, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 19, 2021 5 hours ago, KNP said: Now, we looked at these pictures and realised the background was over powering the subject so this turned into an exercise of highlighting the power of using focus stacked pictures where you use only focused pictures of the subject and the background left out of focus thereby making it stand out better....well I think so. Either you're pulling my leg or I'm missing something. When I take a close-up photo with my camera focused on the subject, I get that effect automatically. 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted April 19, 2021 Author Share Posted April 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, St Enodoc said: Either you're pulling my leg or I'm missing something. When I take a close-up photo with my camera focused on the subject, I get that effect automatically. Agreed, also depends on far you can get the camera is away from the subject, however with photo stacking I can choose to a certain degree via an editing program (in my case Serif Affinity) what is and isn't in focus within a depth of field. I notice in many pictures posted on this website people want a close up of a model so the they go close in which decreases the focal depth when the best way is to be actually further way to get a greater depth of field and then crop the picture to get the close up. 1 7 4 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted April 19, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 19, 2021 There are some interesting trade-offs in model photography, and I have yet to get to grips with any of them. Kevin mentions cropping, and the more pixels you have, the better detail you may retain when chopping bits off. DoF is immensely useful in certain circs. The smaller the sensor, the greater the DoF, but it may well have fewer pixels. Smaller sensors suffer from diffraction at larger apertures than bigger ones. A big sensor may work well at f22, smaller ones typically don't. A bigger sensor will probably have bigger photosites (the individual lens that creates the pixel) and that adds quality. The highest megapixel cameras in 35mm-equivalent format are now 61MP. The one in a typical phone may be 12MP. 61MP allows for an awful lot of cropping. I offer no advice on how to be a better model photographer, but believe some of the above may help! 2 6 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tony Teague Posted April 19, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 19, 2021 The other aspect to consider is that if all you are going to do with your pictures is put them on instagram, for example, then all those megapixels are over indulgence! Where they are essential is when you want to print your images at A2 or above. Tony 4 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted April 19, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Tony Teague said: The other aspect to consider is that if all you are going to do with your pictures is put them on instagram, for example, then all those megapixels are over indulgence! Where they are essential is when you want to print your images at A2 or above. Tony Or if you need to crop them, if your lens wasn't the right focal length for your shot. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Alister_G Posted April 19, 2021 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted April 19, 2021 I agree with Kevin and Ian, and have now learned that to get a close-up shot, you are better to take a distant shot and crop it, than move the camera too near to the subject. This is not always the case, of course, and not always practicable, either, but as a general rule it holds true. If Kevin will forgive me, here's a shot of Ladmanlow: Notice how the focus is pretty even across the photo from front to back. This is because it is a crop of this photo: With the same camera, moving it closer to the subject results in this: OK so not an exact comparison, but gives an idea. Al. 12 10 2 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted April 20, 2021 Author Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Alister_G said: I agree with Kevin and Ian, and have now learned that to get a close-up shot, you are better to take a distant shot and crop it, than move the camera too near to the subject. This is not always the case, of course, and not always practicable, either, but as a general rule it holds true. If Kevin will forgive me, here's a shot of Ladmanlow: Notice how the focus is pretty even across the photo from front to back. This is because it is a crop of this photo: With the same camera, moving it closer to the subject results in this: OK so not an exact comparison, but gives an idea. Al. Not a problem, Al. Lovely layout and one of my favourites on the RMWeb. Nicely demonstrates what I was saying, there are numerous pictures of LM where I haven't bothered with photo stacking but relied on moving the camera away and then cropping in closer. There are lots of trade offs with taking indoor pictures of a layout one main one, I have found, is the ISO setting the higher the setting the less light you need but the grainer the pictures becomes especially when cropping. I normally use either 400 or 800 as my camera operates around 21mb giving me plenty of pixels to play with. Then you have the battle between Aperture or Program setting, then you might need the camera on a macro setting for close ups and so on and so on....... I'm no expert on photography just picked this up or just plain experimented as I've gone along. Additional lighting gets in on the equation as well, one of my favourites is 'bounce' lighting used on the last wagon picture where I angle a reflective cake base to 'bounce' the layout light into the model to lighten the shadows...... Photography of a model railway is a subject all in it's own right, which is a comment that Andy York made when he came to photograph LM for the BRM. He gave me many a useful tip at the time which prompted me to delve deeper...... Edited April 20, 2021 by KNP 12 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KNP Posted April 20, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) Now to bolster and encourage all your enthusiasm and wellbeing.... here is a picture of a Bolster wagon just for you, and you, and you at the back there........... Now that picture is annoying because I realised I hadn't fixed the load wedges. They where made, I fabricated 8 of them and then a few days ago I was tidying up the railway room and threw them away not realising what they where !*!*!*! Now they are outside at this very moment in our wheelly bin......and I am not that desperate to empty it on the road hunting for 8 tidy little wedges....no sir I am not.....I shall make some more and fix them as I do them.......... Edited 22 hours ago by KNP 14 1 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Limpley Stoker Posted April 20, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 20, 2021 Speaking from the back, could I speak up about the benefit of a wide angle lens close to the subject : realistic perspective! 1 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted April 20, 2021 Author Share Posted April 20, 2021 21 minutes ago, Limpley Stoker said: Speaking from the back, could I speak up about the benefit of a wide angle lens close to the subject : realistic perspective! Certainly you may, the floor is yours.... 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Limpley Stoker Posted April 20, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 20, 2021 Exactly: camera on floor (eye) level, wide angle lens close to subject, focus stacking and cropping wonky verticals = Kevin's winning formula ! 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KNP Posted April 21, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) For a change? been messing about with the iPhone 12 settings using portrait with a bit of assistance from Affinity. Edited 22 hours ago by KNP 41 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm 0-6-0 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 3 hours ago, KNP said: It really has gone beyond the term "renovator's delight" hasn't it..... 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John Besley Posted April 21, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, Malcolm 0-6-0 said: It really has gone beyond the term "renovator's delight" hasn't it..... Demolish and build an IKEA on the site.. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mike_Walker Posted April 21, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 hour ago, John Besley said: Demolish and build an IKEA on the site.. We had a cottage on the edge of the village where I live that was far worse than that and it has been brought back to life. No roof and trees growing inside! 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonB Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 A London based friend went through a period where he and his wife talked of little else other than moving to France and building their own dream home there. The had (still do) a neighbour with a French wife who spent about 30% of the year their property in a remote part of France, so my friend spent all his holidays, for a couple of years, looking for a suitable property to rebuild. They were shown a number of sites ranging from an abandoned cow shed to residences in similar state to Kevin's well observed model. All the French properties were described as "having possibilities"!! Common sense eventually prevailed. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Over here such a building would be listed as a " fantastic opportunity " with " outline planning permission " for about four times as much money. 2 1 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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