DonB Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Kevin asked (half way down, Previous page) Quote:- "Now, I have an issue and that is do I do a free standing pictorial on a post or a wall mounted one over the jug & Bottle door.... Hmmmmm" The tendency in the '30s seems to have been that any pub with an open forecourt would have a pictorial or name sign on a post . and all pubs were to have the name of the licensee over a door. In the case of "The Unicorn" a picture might be a bit difficult, there being no prototype, so plain or decorative script might be the most likely option. The licensee's name, (always white letters on a black background) ,could justifiably be attached to the transom above the Jug & Bottle door since the door window has its purpose boldly shown on the upper panel. If the Unicorn is to offer accommodation then an additional sign on the wall "The Unicorn Inn" (?) might be displayed to catch passing traffic. Here the options would seem to be a panel attached to the wall, with the name in bold uppercase script or similar signage painted directly onto the wall . Such signs would usually be illuminated by overhead lights. A post sign, I think, is less likely to be illuminated 1 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManofKent Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Does anyone recall Inn Sign cocktail sticks? I think they were made in the 50's and 60's. No idea whether The Unicorn was covered, and they're probably a little over scale... 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted May 24, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 24, 2021 Unfortunately, I'm of an age where I do and one or two pubs still had a few left well into the 70's. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 Don’t worry about the Unicorn picture on the hanging sign as I already have an original Whitbread one that I will photoshop to size. Passing traffic at LM, I’m lucky if I get any of that!!! I will be going for a post as that was what I wanted from the very start. Bikes being built. 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mick Bonwick Posted May 24, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, KNP said: Passing traffic at LM, I’m lucky if I get any of that!!! Passing traffic would be quite rare at a terminus, methinks. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon4470 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 I’ve really enjoyed seeing the pub develop, and it looks so right. Thanks for sharing the progress. I have been wondering about one thing though. A few pages ago it was suggested that a beer delivery would make a nice cameo.....but how would the beer get into the cellar? Is there an access door or would it go through the pub? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted May 25, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2021 5 hours ago, Jon4470 said: but how would the beer get into the cellar? Kev just lifts the pub up and drops the beer in the cellar... Al. 2 2 5 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm 0-6-0 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) On 23/05/2021 at 03:32, KNP said: Front area well underway Road matching well. Grass, weeds, shrubs to front of brick building added and blended in adjoining alleyway. Sieved sand to sides of porch with PVA glue flooded on, Roof Dirt wash applied now need to dry so I can what colour/shade it ends up!!! Paving added. There is a small triangular patch of ground between the brick wall of the building next to the pub and the railing on the edge of the platform - would that exist in real life or would either the owner of the building colonised it or the railway? BTW nice job with pub. Edited May 25, 2021 by Malcolm 0-6-0 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KNP Posted May 25, 2021 Author Share Posted May 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Malcolm 0-6-0 said: There is a small triangular patch of ground between the brick wall of the building next to the pub and the railing on the edge of the platform - would that exist in real life or would either the owner of the building colonised it or the railway? BTW nice job with pub. Thanks if I have read your comment correctly you are talking about the alleyway that leads behind the station to Cathcott Field. is it this one? 15 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishplate Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Hi @KNP. I have been away from Little Muddle on other business for too long. It has been very pleasant to return and catch up with things over the last few weeks / hundred or so pages. Catching up at LM speed! The standard of modelling is something to aspire to. The pub and garage look like they have been there forever. Some things change on LM , but part of its charm is most things don't. It is like going back to your childhood home town to find you recognise everything. Thank you for continuing to inspire. John 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KNP Posted May 25, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) On 24/05/2021 at 20:25, Jon4470 said: I’ve really enjoyed seeing the pub develop, and it looks so right. Thanks for sharing the progress. I have been wondering about one thing though. A few pages ago it was suggested that a beer delivery would make a nice cameo.....but how would the beer get into the cellar? Is there an access door or would it go through the pub? Thanks Over the many years I worked for Whitbread/Wethered I dealt with hundreds of pubs from general maintenance, to refurbishment, re-signing schemes and cellar improvements. Many pubs of course had below ground cellars but quite a few didn't with the beer stored in a 'cold room' (before the advent of cellar coolers this is), some pubs had below ground cellars but accessed by flaps inside the building, most though where outside, like the station pub opposite, which is set in the paving On this particular pub, The Unicorn, I decided the cellar entrance would be through the main doors to the flaps inside by the bar (easier to model!!!!). Barrels where dropped of the dray on the pavement via a bump mat, rolled through the double doors, then the main door into the pub and to the left where the flaps where in front of the bar. This operation would be carried out first thing in the morning when the pub was closed for business. There was a Wethered pub I dealt with that had this process but for the life of me I can't remember its name - lets put this down to old age I suppose. Edited June 9, 2023 by KNP 19 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KNP Posted May 25, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2021 At the end of a busy day the Pannier has a rest by the engine shed. Getting ready for its next task no doubt... 28 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm 0-6-0 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 57 minutes ago, KNP said: Thanks if I have read your comment correctly you are talking about the alleyway that leads behind the station to Cathcott Field. is it this one? That's it, and that pic shows it's not as narrow as it looks in the first pic. Looks splendid, excellent job as usual - carry on. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonB Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 I thought that a pub as ancient as the Unicorn seems to be would not have a cellar but have the smaller sizes barrels on a shelf / stand behind the counter and glasses/ tankards filled directly from the barrel. I didn't know Kevin had worked for Whitbread.... I was "teaching granny to suck eggs". My knowledge comes from having two aunts as well as my father all licensees in post-war England. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted May 25, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2021 When Whitbread acquired the estates of other brewers, not unnaturally there might be a few unfamiliar taps appear on the bar. One of these was Whitbread Tankard, a beer that Professor Spooner might have been advised not to order. 1 1 1 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Limpley Stoker Posted May 25, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2021 And don’t forget the ‘best picket in the brewflade’ So much for Mr Unwin’s advertising- I can’t remember the product! 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 56 minutes ago, Oldddudders said: When Whitbread acquired the estates of other brewers, not unnaturally there might be a few unfamiliar taps appear on the bar. One of these was Whitbread Tankard, a beer that Professor Spooner might have been advised not to order. Is that the game in Sherwood forest, where Robin Hood becomes Hobin Rood, Little John becomes Jittle Lohn and Friar Tuck isn't allowed to play? 1 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 9 hours ago, KNP said: At the end of a busy day the Pannier has a rest by the engine shed. Would that be the One Doored Engine Shed by any chance? I know, I know, I've already got on my Bicycle and gone. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Tony Teague Posted May 25, 2021 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Limpley Stoker said: And don’t forget the ‘best picket in the brewflade’ So much for Mr Unwin’s advertising- I can’t remember the product! As an aside, Stanley Unwin is buried near here, alongside his wife who pre-deceased him. His tombstone reads: "Reunitey in the heavenly-bode – Deep Joy!" 20 2 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted May 25, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 25, 2021 5 hours ago, Limpley Stoker said: And don’t forget the ‘best picket in the brewflade’ So much for Mr Unwin’s advertising- I can’t remember the product! I believe him to have been the Flowery Brewmaster? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
w124bob Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 On 24/05/2021 at 12:22, Mick Bonwick said: Tin o' beans and a seat away from everybody else. Washed down with a nice bottle of stout. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm 0-6-0 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 15 hours ago, DonB said: I thought that a pub as ancient as the Unicorn seems to be would not have a cellar but have the smaller sizes barrels on a shelf / stand behind the counter and glasses/ tankards filled directly from the barrel. I didn't know Kevin had worked for Whitbread.... I was "teaching granny to suck eggs". My knowledge comes from having two aunts as well as my father all licensees in post-war England. A fine heritage if I may say 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KNP Posted May 26, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2021 Meanwhile back over on the main line an express can be heard approaching 26 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KNP Posted May 26, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2021 Bradley Manor, no less, pulling the early morning passenger service races into the station 31 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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