Little Muddle

[Metropolitan H]

Can someone please put me out of my misery and tell me where the "1:1 version" is?

 

I'm obviously the odd one who doesn't know?

 

Regards

CH

[MrWolf]

Little Muddle takes its inspiration from the Shipston on Stour branch in Warwickshire. 

 

But it is NOT a model of Shipston on Stour!! 

It is more likely to be proof of the existence of a parallel universe...

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 28, 2021 by MrWolf
Clarity

[KNP]

S - on - S provided the layout concept for Little Muddle way back in 2007/8 but it does seemed to have evolved a bit as I don't recall the sea being anywhere near nor is there a viaduct close to the station.

It provided a nice simple track layout with a couple of buildings that caught my imagination, I tried to fit in the cattle dock but it became to cramped so I had to omit that.

I started to plan and set out the gasworks that adjoined the goods yard but the gasometers just overpowered the model so it became a harbour instead!!!

Must sort out that loading gauge....

[Limpley Stoker]

What a welcoming sight for the thirsty traveller at the end of the platform.  Irresistible after a hot days work!

[Mick Bonwick]

38 minutes ago, Metropolitan H said:

Can someone please put me out of my misery and tell me where the "1:1 version" is?

 

I'm obviously the odd one who doesn't know?

 

Regards

CH

 

Start at page one and work your way forwards.

[Metropolitan H]

I'd just worked that out. It was the presence of the loco shed that threw me, as the pictures that I scanned from originals by a person - whose name I forget! - are here:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hope the above are of interest - and that you get a model of 1335 to add to the loco roster of Little Muddle!

 

Regards

Chris H

Edited June 28, 2021 by Metropolitan H

[Fishplate]

 

In @MrWolf s bottom picture, I wonder which came first in the limited space between the shed and the cattle dock: The wagon on wheels or the wagon on stilts?

 

Despite the prototype evidence , would it seem "wrong" if seen in isolation on a layout modelled that way?

[MrWolf]

There is another location, the name of which escapes me, where there was a 40ft PBV both sides ends of the goods shed as extra storage space. 

I came across Little Muddle and RMWeb because I was searching for pictures and a track plan of Shipston on Stour as inspiration for my own layout and I'm rather glad that I did.

I always liked the outside framed station building, there was another like it at Culkerton on the Tetbury branch.

I didn't know that 1335 ran on the branch. Any excuse for an ex M&SWJR loco on a layout is fine with me. I have GWR No23 on the back burner.

 

[Fishplate]

2 hours ago, MrWolf said:

I'm rather glad that I did.

 

Me too 

[MrWolf]

Further to @Fishplates comments, this is an earlier picture shot of Shipston goods shed with a box van body stood on a raised frame and the old PBV, a V5? 

It would be interesting to know if the coach had been treated with a coat of light stone paint like any other GWR storage hut?

 

 

 

Edited June 28, 2021 by MrWolf
It does help enormously if you remember to upload the picture that you are talking about...

[KNP]

Decided to relocate Dr. Agon as he looked a little lost in the woods so I have moved him to the lane.

He is now having a chat with the tramp (which people are still saying is the long lost owner of the derelict house and grounds, Count de Monet) and is standing on the normal blue blob until I'm satisfied with his positioning.

I have a handful of loco crew on order along with a couple of Labradors of which one, or both, will be standing by him.

 

 

 

Edited March 29 by KNP

[Ponthir28]

Lovely view and not a train to be seen. But I think it looks better for that on a quiet branch line.

[Donw]

An alternative to a blue blob is a pin with the head cut off (the pin head not the figure) inserted through the foot and up the leg with enough left to be pushed through the scenery  to hold the figure up. Figures can then be fairly easily relocated.

 

Don

[Gypsy]

1 hour ago, KNP said:

I have a handful of loco crew on order along with a couple of Labradors of which one, or both, will be standing by him.

 

 

 

 Can I ask where you found the Labs?

[Stubby47]

1 hour ago, KNP said:

a couple of Labradors of which one, or both, will be standing by him

 

Ooh,  very 617 Squadron-ish - does the Squadron Leader know ?

[MrWolf]

When I was about 5, my great aunt had a black cat called 617 squadron.

Or something related. 

How times have changed.

[KNP]

41 minutes ago, Gypsy said:

 Can I ask where you found the Labs?

 

42 minutes ago, Gypsy said:

 Can I ask where you found the Labs?

Hardys Hobbies

[SteveTheSteam]

The main thing that jumps out at me from the old S-on-S pics and the real LM pics - is that S-on-S has two fitted loco shed doors! 

Edited June 29, 2021 by SteveTheSteam

[St Enodoc]

16 hours ago, MrWolf said:

There is another location, the name of which escapes me, where there was a 40ft PBV both sides ends of the goods shed as extra storage space. 

I came across Little Muddle and RMWeb because I was searching for pictures and a track plan of Shipston on Stour as inspiration for my own layout and I'm rather glad that I did.

I always liked the outside framed station building, there was another like it at Culkerton on the Tetbury branch.

I didn't know that 1335 ran on the branch. Any excuse for an ex M&SWJR loco on a layout is fine with me. I have GWR No23 on the back burner.

 

I've no idea whether 1335 ran on the branch regularly but it certainly hauled the SLS Special on 31 August 1952.

 

http://www.sixbellsjunction.co.uk/50s/5208xxsl.html

[MrWolf]

On 29/06/2021 at 12:58, SteveTheSteam said:

The main thing that jumps out at me from the old S-on-S pics and the real LM pics - is that S-on-S has two fitted loco shed doors! 

 

The shed at Shipston closed somewhere around 1919 and by the era of Little Muddle was being used as a garage for the station lorry.

 

History has not recorded whether or not Shipston's lorry had an unopened crate on the back of it for any length of time....

[figworthy]

23 hours ago, MrWolf said:

There is another location, the name of which escapes me, where there was a 40ft PBV both sides ends of the goods shed as extra storage space. 

 

 

Not sure if it is what you are thinking about, but in "Great Western Branch Line Modelling" part 2 by Stephen Willams, there is a picture (page 39) of Lechlade station, which appears to fit the bill.

 

Adrian

[MrWolf]

On 29/06/2021 at 19:53, figworthy said:

 

Not sure if it is what you are thinking about, but in "Great Western Branch Line Modelling" part 2 by Stephen Willams, there is a picture (page 39) of Lechlade station, which appears to fit the bill.

 

Adrian

 

 

PS. Thanks Adrian, I couldn't for the life of me think where I had seen it.

Googling Lechlade goods shed or Lechlade station drew a blank though. 

It may only be in that book.

 

Edited June 29, 2021 by MrWolf
PostScript!

[MrWolf]

You're probably already aware Kevin, that the loading gauge at Shipston looks very much like the Ratio GWR/LMS joint loading gauge.

 

Just thought I would contribute something vaguely useful by way of a change!

[Winslow Boy]

2 hours ago, MrWolf said:

You're probably already aware Kevin, that the loading gauge at Shipston looks very much like the Ratio GWR/LMS joint loading gauge.

 

Just thought I would contribute something vaguely useful by way of a change!

 

Well if that was something useful then I'd hate to see something that wasn't. Youngsters nowadays.

[MrWolf]

On 28/06/2021 at 19:16, KNP said:

Must sort out that loading gauge....

 

 

 

Ratio kit 411 by the look of it. I'm certain that a neater job can be made of the stay rods, the plastic filament in the kit isn't easy to straighten out. No big deal.

 

Useful.